The news yesterday that HMRC would appeal the decision by the First Tier Tribunal (FTT) to reject the part of their tax demand against former club Rangers which was still open to dispute was received by most with passing interest. The FTT returned a split decision, with the minority view giving HMRC substantial grounds for an appeal, and as we have heard often in recent years, HMRC always pursue tax under various circumstances. Reasons include when they believe wrongdoing has occurred.
As such, it seemed strange that The Rangers chief executive, Charles Green, issued a statement on the subject yesterday as the on-going tax dispute “will have no affect (sic.) on us”. He also wrote “in the strongest possible terms to HMRC pointing out the futility of such an appeal”.
If Green expects HMRC to read this letter and to countenance a change of tact he has a regard for his own abilities which are, frankly, a little curious. No mere mortal could write a letter and bring about any change in such a dispute, which leads us to another question, is Charles Green a mere mortal, or does his aim occasionally stretch beyond his reach? I’m sure we’re not dealing with a Self-Certified-Superman.
The point to this exercise is that while Green’s newco is not liable for another company’s taxes, his football club inherited the SFA place vacated by Rangers, including pesky football liabilities. Fifa and SFA rules on paying social taxes are clear – avoid them illegally and face disciplinary action.
As the matter is on-going, the football authorities have yet to issue any disciplinary action for the non-payment of taxes for the five players Rangers conceded to the FTT. Should the courts ultimately decide in favour of HMRC for the balance of players still being disputed, a fresh wave of disciplinary measures would be due against Green’s club.
Last summer we discussed how the toxicity which was attached to the club Craig Whyte inherited, and then relinquished in a worse state, would make going forward as a Newco with any connection whatsoever to the SFA membership of Oldco very difficult. Many, including the Blue Knights consortium, concluded it didn’t look viable.
It still doesn’t. Scottish football needs to consider how to deal with the long term consequences of these matters.
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Evening bhoys n ghirls, not been on here for ages (sorry Paul67) but been busy with Wee Oscar 4 Life stuff, Christmas n family time. As you may all know we are doing a cycle from various locations to Belfast to raise more funds for our wee Hero Oscar if you havent already done so please if you can donate to http://www.justgiving.com/teams/WeeOscar4Life-Cycle-to-Belfast-March-2013
Thanks for your time everyone
HH
Greenyin
The best arguments used to come about when we tried to pick
our best ever Celtic eleven. My dads team only included the guys
from the 1931 and 1938 sides ,maybe Bobby Evans would get in .
I am sure he did it just to wind us up , don’t think we ever managed
to settle on an eleven . He loved the Lions though but I suppose those
that we watched as young men will always be special.
Celt 55
Thanks- looks like the ultimate argument settler as well as hugely evocative.
Night all – early start tomorrow.
Jimbo
Mea Culpa, 22:08
No, it wasn’t a windup. It never was.
People have been spoken to and sometimes you simply have to wait for their response to take things forward – and sometimes they don’t respond at all and that can be a story in itself.
It’s early days on this so who knows where it will go
Just back from port vale 3-0 wimbledon -top of the league
A few words in praise of the 150 or so wimbledon supporters- bottom of the league -cold wet tuesday night – 350 mile round trip – hats off
BRTH Thank you once again for another emotional and well written post. You are able to articulate what most of us can only dream about. If you haven’t already, then you really should publish your writings in a book. In my opinion and i’m certain in most others on this fine blog you are in a class of your own, I confess I shed a tear in reading tonlght’s post.
The anticipation is building towards the Juventus match next Tuesday,everybody wants a piece of the action,you can’t get a ticket for love or an extortionate amount of money.This will be the game in which Celtic will make the most cash from a single game than any other.This is where Celtic belong,not in the backwaters of Govan.My dream is that Celtic are the only British team to reach the last eight of the Champions League and then try getting a spare ticket to that one ? COYBIG
Richard III breaks the record for longest time spent in a car park, moving Charlie Mulgrew’s wean into 2nd place
Djbee.
Looking like its only a matter of time.
The busted flush will be floating in the pan by the end of the year going by what’s hitting the blogs.
Don’t want to sound greedy…i want thems stripped of cheating titles first.hh
bada bing!
I’m with you on the East Dillion Lions Brake Club. Love it.
WeefratheTim
22:13 on
5 February, 2013
djbee
Thanks for that.
Weefra HH I was wondering what you were talking about then I read back. Remember reading the post on twitter last night and the guy I think is no bshitter. I was just reading it and thought this has got to go on CQN. Anyway it’s ma birthday and bring on the Rioja. I think this year is going to be even better than last year for us hoops fans and that is some goin.
HH Wefra! Hail Hail CQN. This site and you lot helped get me through a bstrd of a year last year, this year is looking fantastic on a personal and hoops level. Bring it on.
COYBIG
DJBEE
Thanks for that information, and for the continuing effort to get somewhere near the bottom of this murky and dank ‘arrangement’. The Huns really do seem to have slithered down into a dark, dark place.
Having hardly missed a Celtic game during their nine titles, this past year has been just exquisite. I remember seeing that prick Gough running up the park at Ibrox after they scored against us early in the season when they were going for 10-in-a-row throwing two open hands in the air to ram the 10-finger salute into us – thank God for Wim the Perm!
I hope there is much more, and much worse (better?), to come, and that the rest of the arrogant crew get theirs – I’m not interested in Whyte or Green, or even Sally, Souness or Uncle Walter – it is Murray that I want nailed nailed to the wall.
Hail, Hail
BGFC
Doncaster did not answer the question regarding what happened to Ranngers prize money last season when they finished 2nd despite not paying social taxes and therefore putting a team on the park they could not otherwise afford.
He then linked it to the Lord Nimmo Smith enquiry.
Money held back to pay a fine pre agreed as part of the 5 way agreement?
Smelly.
HH
TLK
Rubicon- My guilty pleasure,brilliant programme,unfortunately a couple of girls moving on though :( HH
Got a call from Willie Wallace today to discuss the possibility of Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan writing what would be best ever book on the Lions. Willie is keen and so is BRTH so with a little luck this should be the next CQN project.
Paul67 – regards the post – has Charlie got back to you yet? I’d you’d have been posting his reply a few hours ago considering the speed with which he cobbled together an unrequested reply to HMRC.
Bet then, there’s the confusion that remains from the old club’s mindset which made them believe they were themselves a HM adjunct department and as such above responding to the law but very very good and making it.
U
Go on BRTH
frae and Green Lantern
Thank you very much. I have only vaguely heard of them but it will suffice to allow me to slide into the Valley of Dreams. Good night, all.
JJ
djbee
No problems on that. Happy birthday toooo yooooo. Glad you a bad year out of the way and I hope this year keeps on the up for you.
I had good news last month re oral cancer (a biopsy was taken, still waiting on result. Surgeon insists it was not cancer but could be pre cancerous) BUT the best result was yesterday, going to Wishaw General for a scan on the ol crown jewels, showed a clean sheet which was brilliant.
Weefra HH
Sipsini
Someone on my fb commented on the page of the elbows loyal
The subject was…….. When the embargo is up how would you spend the £20m ….
Stoopid stoopid zombies
Big George that was not me it was from alzipratu on twitter I only C&P it.
Anyone here confirm Fare have reported Celtic to UEFA about racist chanting away at Barcalona I’m not on twitter but there’s plenty tweets about it, so all you tweeters out there can you have a look and see whats happening
whitecrook tim
21:56 on
5 February, 2013
Shouldn’t be too long before we both get our wish ….. LOL
MurdochauldandHay
Appears that the report sent to fare was citing incidents and narratives from the game in 2008 and not the recent game— someone putting the mix in falsely I think.
Good news weefra, that must be some relief, it can only get better from now on, my year doesn’t seem so bad now.
HH
BRTH, hats off to you, sir, an outstanding piece.
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Kano 1000
19:58 on
5 February, 2013
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I’m just home from my “Home group” and catching up,
THANK YOU sir.
djbee
We all have to get on with what we have, but good news on any front helps life get along that wee bit easier. After working 51 years you want to enjoy a wee bit of longevity. Especially to watch the FAMOUS GLASGOW CELTIC. Ha
Weefra HH
BTRH
Yes just looked at one tweet and it was a report of our game in Barcelona in 2008 right enough someone mishcief making methinks
Ricky Bobby @RickyBobby1872
@farenet For your review and comment. http://www.barcelonareporter.com/index.php?/news/comments/uefa_to_investigate_sectarian_chants_by_celtic_fans/ …
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@farenet @RickyBobby1872 This is from 2008, yes?
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@farenet @RickyBobby1872 Teacher, Teacher…then big boys said a naughty word 5 years ago..haha fucking joke like ur dead club
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That you keeping they good people from @farenet on their toes with outdated articles @RickyBobby1872? Hows the Tier 4/Cup exit tedium going?
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@farenet @rickybobby1872 Think Fare owe a huge apology for publishing outdated material…seems fair, No?
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BRTH.
A very humanatarian piece of writing.Top notch.
Liked the Burns bit, which I previously missed, also.HH
Graham Spiers Article in March 2008
bada
Cheers mate. Hopefully all is well.
Weefra HH
The boy jinky.
Thems are really hurting in the enclave.
The shankhill midgets are getting smaller by the week.
The mob from the cathcart pumping station are turning into their hero from their banners…hunchbacks that can’t look you in the eye.
And the old school knuckle rattlers…
They don’t talk anymore.hh
dirtymac
23:00 on
5 February, 2013
Hahahahaha…….