The news yesterday that HMRC would appeal the decision by the First Tier Tribunal (FTT) to reject the part of their tax demand against former club Rangers which was still open to dispute was received by most with passing interest. The FTT returned a split decision, with the minority view giving HMRC substantial grounds for an appeal, and as we have heard often in recent years, HMRC always pursue tax under various circumstances. Reasons include when they believe wrongdoing has occurred.
As such, it seemed strange that The Rangers chief executive, Charles Green, issued a statement on the subject yesterday as the on-going tax dispute “will have no affect (sic.) on us”. He also wrote “in the strongest possible terms to HMRC pointing out the futility of such an appeal”.
If Green expects HMRC to read this letter and to countenance a change of tact he has a regard for his own abilities which are, frankly, a little curious. No mere mortal could write a letter and bring about any change in such a dispute, which leads us to another question, is Charles Green a mere mortal, or does his aim occasionally stretch beyond his reach? I’m sure we’re not dealing with a Self-Certified-Superman.
The point to this exercise is that while Green’s newco is not liable for another company’s taxes, his football club inherited the SFA place vacated by Rangers, including pesky football liabilities. Fifa and SFA rules on paying social taxes are clear – avoid them illegally and face disciplinary action.
As the matter is on-going, the football authorities have yet to issue any disciplinary action for the non-payment of taxes for the five players Rangers conceded to the FTT. Should the courts ultimately decide in favour of HMRC for the balance of players still being disputed, a fresh wave of disciplinary measures would be due against Green’s club.
Last summer we discussed how the toxicity which was attached to the club Craig Whyte inherited, and then relinquished in a worse state, would make going forward as a Newco with any connection whatsoever to the SFA membership of Oldco very difficult. Many, including the Blue Knights consortium, concluded it didn’t look viable.
It still doesn’t. Scottish football needs to consider how to deal with the long term consequences of these matters.
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Had to listen to Spiers, Doncaster and G Smith on Radio Scotland. Doncaster was as good as anyone in his unenviable position; Spiers did his job as a journalist but Smith only made a total fool of himself. He is purely a cheer leader for sevco and, unless he was acting, hasn’t the intellectual cop on to understand an argument. How anyone ever voted him in to a position of responsiblity is way beyond me? Clueless doesn’t begin to do him justice.
Che
Coulda been worse.. Mighta been crashing due to pics of old fried eggs
Jabba dancing to Abba broke the blog.
I bet he looks godawful om the dancefloor.
My goodness, it must be a living hell to be a Sevconian, poor poor eh things!
Smith was awful – even by his own low standards.
Said he would have wanted ANY team to “stay” in the SPL after they were liquidated. Yeah, right!
Also said there was a vote to see if Rangers got into the SPL. They didn’t get voted in so that means they were “voted out”. Eh?
This man is an even bigger buffoon than I thought.
Please, please…please can someone share the efforts of the former big-wig “explaining” stuff………….?
The first night in ages that I finish work at a sensible hour, sit down to CQN, and it’s ‘broke’ ….. i demand the names of the people who did this…!!!!
miki67
You gat a problem with somebody dancing to Abba? :)))
Weefra HH
TBJ
Never slept a wink last night, visually and psychologically scarred, prob for life.
She’s a cracker tho eh?
Never see anything like that in 67
Spiers’ cosy wee article about sitting with the non boycotters was a bit gut turning.
He referred to the Utd. fans wind ups as ,”ditties of abuse”, whilst acknowledging if the boot was on the other foot, Newclub’s fans would be ” goading and lampooning”.
No sign of abuse.
In many ways, GS is worse than any of them, as he represents the plausible, urbane chap, who exudes good manners and charm.
In my early football watching days, the stand at Ibrox was full of these guys, with their Crombie coats and kid gloves.
They are more offensively dangerous than your below average knuckledragger.
Thanks for all the recomendations for fine Italian eating establishments in old Italia.
I do know a few – but I might just stay in on my birthday.
Meal at home with close family – except Mrs and Ms Tally – on Sunday!
Not a Juve fan in sight may I add!
HH!!
Have to say Spiers was actually quite good. Said Sevco was a new club. Corrected Smith on the “voted out of the SPL” garbage. Tried to push Doncaster on the TV deals but he didn’t really answer.
neil canamalar lennon hunskelper extrordinaire
18:11 on 5 February, 2013
Think he could be a great signing for Jackie Mac if he can hold onto a few players
Thought
Paddy McCourts Fenian army
Had a bit to do with him being dropped
The board were doing everything in their power to destroy freedom of expression, to the point they pleaded guilty to a known lie.
So taking a potentially offensive song out by simply leaving a player off the list would not be beyond them.
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Wrong thought
On every level.
2nd attempt tonight at a shameless plug – but not for myself.
The present Mrs IC is a fundraiser for Mary’s Meals (among her many charitable works). Her current big effort is to organise an Italian evening – first-class dinner, wine & entertainment – on 1st March. It will take place at St Mary’s Hall in central Inverness for the amazingly modest price of £10 a head. Anyone who can make it is welcome – their contribution even more so. Further details from gillansinverness@aol.com.
There might be hope for fans of fc sevco
(Popular Science
FYI: Do Zombies Experience Consciousness?
Shaunacy Ferro – 5 Feb 2013)
“In most pop-zombie lore, zombies have been infected with a contagion that turns them into mindless, soulless monsters on the hunt for human flesh. Even if a reanimated corpse used to be your mother/father/brother/girlfriend/BFF, now it’s a zombie, and it has to die. End of story.
But the latest film in the zombie lexicon, Warm Bodies, turns that convention on its head. An over-thinking zombie falls in love. He thinks and feels.
Which raises an interesting philosophical question: Are zombies hopeless automatons who should be killed without hesitation? Or do zombies experience consciousness?
Well, do they? Would zombies be conscious beings?
It’s possible. They’re just sick people, argues Steven Schlozman, author of The Zombie Autopsies and an assistant professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. “We would never say that somebody that is sick with another kind of disease isn’t conscious.”
In Schlozman’s view, zombies are much like a crocodile. They may not be conscious in the same way humans are, but they are aware of their surroundings and respond to their environment.
From the philosophical standpoint of consciousness, if zombies can recognize “qualia” — instances of consciousness, sensing things like pain, color, smell or temperature — then they must be conscious.
“The damage that’s been done has changed their behavior in other ways, but if they can smell fresh meat — a person — and if they can see them and they could distinguish between colors or something I would argue that they really are conscious, in a more restricted way than we are,” says philosopher Paul Skokowski, the executive director of the Center For Explanation of Consciousness at Stanford University. This year the center is running a series of interdisciplinary workshops on zombies and consciousness.
How can we be really sure, though?
Even if we thought zombies were just sick people, an infection that reanimates corpses isn’t a normal disease, so we’d probably want to double check. Just to be sure. Using the same methods we employ to probe whether or not animals are conscious, we could test whether or not zombies think on a higher level.
If a zombie could recognize himself in the mirror, we’d have to assume that zombie had self awareness.
“We can establish — as we largely have done already — which parts of the human brain are critical for the kinds of consciousness that we have and see if they are intact in a zombie,” says Daniel Bor, a scientist at the University of Sussex’s Sackler Centre for Consciousness Science. “If we could ever get a zombie in a brain scanner.”
If we could see that they didn’t have a thalamus, for example, scientists would agree that zombies probably wouldn’t be conscious. If there were a lot of complex interactions between regions of their zombie brain, that would imply a high level of consciousness.
But it might be tough to wrestle a zombie into an MRI. One way we test for consciousness in animals is by having them take a good look in the mirror. Most primates, dolphins, elephants and even magpies can recognize their own reflection.
“If a zombie could recognize themselves in the mirror, if it was to pass that test, we’d have to assume that zombie had self awareness, which is an advanced form of consciousness,” Bor says.
We could also test whether zombies were capable of what’s called meta-cognition — if they were aware of their own thoughts. When testing for advanced forms of consciousness, scientists give animals perceptual tasks, like picking which dot is slightly bigger in a set or choosing which picture they’ve already been shown. Then the zombie would be asked to gamble on their answer.
Great apes, monkeys and possibly even rats seem to be able to track their own accuracy — betting high on answers they are confident about. If zombies were to do the same, it would suggest that they are conscious beings.
In Warm Bodies, zombies start to regain their humanity. Is that possible? Or are zombies really just gone, as every other zombie movie tells us?
They could probably be cured. Zombies go from being able to talk and interact to losing much of their normal function beyond base desires like hunger. (Basically like a drunk crocodile taking a walk, as Schlozman puts it.) They’re in a kind of vegetative state.
Yet there’s evidence that the brain heals itself, albeit slowly.
Schlozman says the brain could potentially regenerate through neurogenesis, the creation of neurons, and neuroplasticity, the changes in neural pathways and synapses after injury.
Zombies are like a drunk crocodile taking a walk.
For people in a vegetative state, deep brain stimulation can in some cases help them go from not being able to do anything to being able to talk and feed themselves. Electrodes implanted into the skull stimulate regions of the brain like the thalamus so that the neurons fire repeatedly.
For a zombie, deep brain stimulation could kickstart brain function and stem cells could facilitate rehabilitation, Schlozman says, making it possible to retrain the brain to perform the same functions as before. People who have lost function in one part of their brain sometimes learn to use a different part of the brain for the same function.
Whether a zombie would still be the person he or she was before is another question. Much of what we think of as consciousness has to do with our sense of self. If the brain is degraded, that sense of self could be lost. Even if parts of the brain could be regenerated post-zombification, it’s debatable whether they’d hold the same memories.”
…..but will they still have their history?
Che
You begged me … I have the evidence lmao
But i pwomise to post much better stuff next three weeks
HH
False alarm. Blog on tea break and I thought Sevco away..
Though Mc Leish DID walk away..
A wee personal story on the issues surrounding Paul Gascoigne at the moment.
Paul Gascoigne and the lesson from the Big Boss Man!
http://wp.me/p1G95H-e2
AMB
Big eck walked cos he didnt get to sign ronaldo or messi…
Just back on-whats the chat re Sally getting punted, please no.
Bada
Unfortunately its true,
Sally is now the face of Greggs.
Canamalar
You may be nearer the truth than even you think.
brogan rogan trevino and hogan supports kano 1000
19:58 on
5 February, 2013
A wee personal story on the issues surrounding Paul Gascoigne at the moment.
Paul Gascoigne and the lesson from the Big Boss Man!
http://wp.me/p1G95H-e2
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Marvellous. Simply marvellous.
Invercelt
Best of luck for the 1st March!
Hope they get a good turnout, for a very worthwhile cause.
What’s on the menu btw?!
HH!!
Just had a wee check on zombie media… Fantastic new thread about jim delahun …. he mentioned that he was behind the goal at hampdump when kd scored against spain
The zombies latched onto the fact the goal was scored at the cellic end so case proven that jungle jims a mick
Oh the disappointment of realising the blog wasnt broken because of the clamour to rejoice in some more wonderful news….ah well
BRTH
– thanks for that contribution.
Really enjoyable read.
HH.
Tallybhoy
If your a genuine eye talion stalyon you would be up at invernessy for a tagliatoni al nessi :)
Is it true that Salmonds security service lifted the guys who did the zombie banner?
All I said was “Good evening friends”. Apologies. I’ll try to be less controversial in future. Off oot to attempt a short run through the frozen slush.
Jobo
Stringer…,
What makes you so sure ?
The Token Tim- Might be a decent panel as i think game is on all ITV regions.
Dreamonchallscsc
thomthethim
18:17 on 5 February, 2013
I think the best thing we can do, on Celtic sites, is to clamour for Mc.Coist’s removal.
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absolutely …We need the tribute act back in the SPL
Manchester have had no riots for far too long……
Barcelona are missing them……..
Urinals are being installed at Spanish clubs again……
Casualty departments are far too quite these days….
Domestic violence has dramatically reduced, affecting Police overtime…..
We can’t have ALL clubs paying their taxes……….
We can’t have ALL clubs actually producing accounts….
We can’t wait to be boycotted…..
We must have shame games back ASAP
We should not be allowed to enjoy our football……
We should not be experiencing fair refereeing…….
We should not be so friendly to fans of other teams….
We need cheating in our game…..
We need to stop celebrating our Irish heritage…….
We miss the ‘champions’ of hateful, bigoted, sectarianism…….
ROLL ON 2030 WHEN THIS NEW TEAM GET BACK TO A COMPETITIVE LEVEL IN SPL2, and bring the zombies fans back to disrupt the ‘beautiful game’ in our Country…
SALLY MUST GO…. HE MIGHT GET JABBA’S JOB IN THE LL….
The bhoy jinky
I have a previous engagment that evening.
HH!!
Meta-cognition – They didn’t have an original thought before they were zombies and that is where the entire theory falls down. If this theory were correct then it would mean that they are actually more intelligent as zombies than their previous incarnation. Well, it could be correct but obviously this needs much more thorough research and a larger sample taken of rats and zombies. Obviously the director errs when he says that zombies can start to recognize themselves in the mirror, does this mean consciousness? I have often witnessed zombies recognize each other with low gutteral grunts it is just familiarity and not anything on a conscious level. Anyway this is not my field of research but very interesting.
BRTH
I’m not ashamed to say your post has me crying here. There’s a great deal of my dear old dad in your story.
Thank you.
Che-We dont want someone in there that knows what they are doing,Challs might get a bit twitchy as Billy Davies one of favs for Forest job.
BRTH,
Excellent piece and very thought provoking, many thanks.