A journalist, banned by Celtic, attacked the club in the Daily Record today, suggesting the SFA chief exec Stuart Regan should have told Peter Lawwell to ‘wind his neck in’ and ‘remind him of his duty to the game’ after he wrote asking for clarification after Sunday’s game.
The hyperbole was raised to the extent the notion “Lawwell dragged our game back into a very dark place – somewhere dangerously close to disrepute” was put into hundreds of thousands of hands today.
A dark place, close to disrepute? For writing a letter asking for clarification? Sounds to me like the know the trouble Peter Lawwell is causing to the vested interests at Hampden and they want him stopped.
By remarkable coincidence, this happens to be the same journo who wrote the puff piece for SFA president, Campbell ‘What school did you go to?’ Ogilvie for writing to Uefa demanding a referee was demoted (while circumventing due process) and asking for a player to be banned.
No mention of winding a neck in or duty to the game for a vastly farther reaching letter.
The same paper gives a platform to Barry ‘EBT’ Ferguson to level wholly inaccurate accusations against Celtic:
“By questioning the reasoning behind [the failure to award a penalty]in the name of their supporters, they were nodding towards all manner of hoary old conspiracy theories.”
Conspiracy you say, Barry? Who mentioned conspiracy? An explanation that the standard of refereeing is not good enough and that having 6 officials at Hampden hindered good decision making didn’t occur to you?
Some people are quick to deny conspiracies when a far less controversial response is available.
A concerted campaign has run for days now to ensure that Celtic cannot ask questions without being demonised. When the media demonise those who question authority we are in a very dark place indeed.
This is intolerable. It would not happen in England, where the breadth of media is wide enough to escape narrow seams of authority. It doesn’t matter if it is the government, the Church, the police, big business or sport, if media collaborate with power, you have problems.
Some of it comes from people perhaps bitter that Celtic called them out and banned them, some from those unable to find perspective or consistency between writing about a Campbell Ogilvie letter and a Peter Lawwell letter. All of them are time-served opinion formers who make money from Celtic’s actions.
We are the last superpower in the game, survivors in the battle of the ages. This antagonism isn’t going away. Not until their grandchildren are in place, anyway.
Clubs need to write letters when improvement is needed. I hear estimates that income to Celtic from winning the Scottish Cup would have been in the region of £1m. Football is big business and processes and resources need to as good as they possibly can be. If they are not, the very least you can do is ask for improvement.
On Meekings appeal yesterday….
The player’s appeal was right to be upheld, the case should never have been put before the SFA panel in the first place. The referee Steven McLean saw the incident. That was not disputed. He asked his assistant for his opinion. That was not disputed either.
Meekings representatives pointed out at the hearing that officials are not allowed to re-referee a game after watching TV. This is a central tenant of the game and was accepted by the judicial panel.
Retrospective action is only allowed for incidents which referees did not see. It is not permitted for referees to reconsider an incident he saw. It is blindingly embarrassing to our game that the SFA didn’t know the rules well enough before taking this action. I hear there was incredulity at Celtic when they heard Meekings was banned in the first place.
…… and you wonder why Celtic write letters.
Last call for the Ben Nevis Huddle……..
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Well at least that was a crumb of comfort.
The bakers weren’t supported by the wider Trade Union movement, so often felt like outsiders.
St stivs
Sorry,didn’t see that!
And I’ve the cheek to talk about the MIBS!
I do remember everyone being shocked about the stike – a lot of folk walking about looking pastry.
doc,
When is the deadline date for season book renewal?
cv
In the days of the bakers strike it was Firhill for thrills and Mortons for feck all basically.
Radio Shortbread off the ball Cowan and Cosgrove usual pish all our fault for last week
The media at that time portrayed the striking bakers as lazy loafers.
beatbhoy
12:10 on
25 April, 2015
St stivs
Sorry,didn’t see that!
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but there is two in every packet,
TBJ says Wee Oscar Knox is in heaven with the angels
12:06 on
25 April, 2015
The bakers strike
I remember it like it was yeasterday
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TBJ
You were ok …trip to Goa and load up with naan breed and chapatis.
Celtic star Charlie Mulgrew set to return to action in time for Scotland’s Euro 2016 crunch… Daily Record
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What a relief !!
Cathedral View, here you go.
voguepunter
10:53 on 25 April, 2015
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“First and foremost we absolutely congratulate Inverness Caledonian Thistle on reaching the Scottish Cup final. They are a fantastic club and reaching the final is a great achievement.
However, given the level of reaction from our supporters and across football, we are duty bound to seek an understanding of what actually happened.
We have not been given any other specific explanation so far and this is simply to understand the circumstances of what went on and why such an obvious error was made.”
Sevco
“We’ve asked the SFA – who are these people?”
Super Sallary
syd negakev @ 12:12,
The media at that time portrayed the striking bakers as lazy loafers.
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Think that was the Dalziel Breaker.
Hail Hail
The bookies were giving oven money that the bakers strike wouldn’t last.
Just passing through. Good to see you are all having a loaf.
Some crusty and top slice remarks.
Got to toast you all have a good day.
BCW you can answer if you like.
West on of East end can you reply too please?
On the topic of the Meekings decision by the SFA Judicial Panel…
It’s a good example of (mis) interpreting the rules to justify a predetermined outcome.
The rule itself is quite explicit: It permits action to be taken retrospectively against a player who commits an OFFENCE that the officials did not see.
The wording of the relevant rule is:
“Alleged Sending-Off offences at a match not seen by match officials”
Whether or not the officials see the INCIDENT is irrelevant.
It is the OFFENCE that is punished.
Former SFA Compliance Officer Vincent Lunny, in a BBC interview this week before the JP Note of Reasons was published, provided a clear definition as follows:
“The key word is ‘offence’ not ‘incident’. We had Ryan Stevenson dealt with a couple of years ago for serious foul play where the referee and assistant had seen the tackle.
“They had seen the incident but missed the fact it was serious foul play. And it is really the offence that’s important, not the incident.”
Similar incidents this season have been dealt with by applying the same principle:
Jason Talbot of Livi was booked for a foul challenge on Hearts’ Sam Nicholson. The referee had seen the incident, booked Talbot for a reckless challenge, but he had not seen the offence of serious foul play – Talbot’s boot following through and smashing Nicholson in the face.
The referee missed the offence, the JP applied the rule, and Talbot was retrospectively red carded.
Also this year, Elbows was booked for an elbow (natch) through the back of the head of Dale Carrick of Raith Rovers. The referee saw the incident, but did not see Elbows subsequently stamp on Carrick who was by now, lying prone. Although seeing the incident – the collision of two players – the offence of serious foul play was not seen, and Elbows was retrospectively red carded.
In the Meekings case, the officials have confirmed that they saw the INCIDENT – Griffiths heading the ball towards goal – but not the OFFENCE of deliberate handball by Meekings.
Applying the relevant rule in the same consistent manner would lead to the only possible outcome – a retrospective red card for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity.
Instead, the SFA Judicial Panel stated:
“The panel considered that as the incident (but not the actual alleged sending-off offence of handball) had been seen by one or more of the officials it was not entitled to consider the matter further.”
Thus reinterpreting the relevant rule in the opposite manner to the way it is written, and flying in the face of all precedents in it’s application over the past 4 years.
Conveniently, despite their misapplication of the relevant rule in arriving at the decision, there is no recourse to Appeal by the Compliance Officer. Accordingly,the matter is now officially closed.
Of course, the SFA are not new to this practice. Recent examples include:
Interpreting their own Article entitled: “Prohibition on Transfer of Membership” such as to permit a transfer of membership.
And interpreting the rule: “A registration will not be valid unless it is accompanied by the contract entered into between the club concerned and the player stating all the terms and conditions”..
..to read: “A registration will not be valid unless it is accompanied by the contract entered into between the club concerned and the player stating all the terms and conditions, unless such an invalid registration was accepted as valid at the time.”
There are myriad other examples.
Essentially, the rules are applied without fear or favour, unless there is fear of an adverse consequence, or a favour is required, in which case the rules are applied according to the requirements of the desired outcome.
Many folk recognise this as venial corruption.
In Scotland, we call it World Class Football Administration.
I remember the baker’s strike. Up Castlemulk way there was sumdy who could get you a black-market plain loaf as long as you had the dough.
I would just like to wish Joe O’Rourke best of luck .
Chris Sutton redeeming himself even more by slaughtering the Hun Caldwell in todays rag.
Even getting in another dig at the Huns refereeing last weeks farce.
Heres hoping for a wee result at Inverness today,and one for us at Dundee tomorrow.Give it laldy next Friday night in the last bastion of Timdom.
HH.
The Battered Bunnet 12:33
Spot on.
The Battered Bunnet
12:33 on
25 April, 2015
Great post.In a nutshell.
Cheers doc,
Two days! I better get a move on.
cv
VP
The lengths some folk Goa to take the rise out if me but you really take the biscuit . You think your the best thing since sliced bread but nan of us agree . Am meringue in saying this ? Doughnut answer that as you always want your cake and eat it .
doc:
Not yet received my renewal pack, pay by instalments. Any information on when these will be sent out or can you renew online if paying by instalments?
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
TBJ
I doughnut understand the question :O)
TBJ
I’ll be in pv watching game tomorrow if you want to try and break your duck again
Leave the ducks alone
A penny bag of broken biscuits, thems was the days
Canman
Don’t think tbj has witnessed a hoops victory in the pv yet so no ducks will be harmed
TBB 12:33
Summed up to perfection.
Rules to suit themselves , wrongly applied but subject closed,
no appeal . !
H H
West End of East End
11:38 on
25 April, 2015
Reading back on here you get the feeling that posters want Celtic to trip up to reinforce their views and can then gloat in “I told you so” and bore the pants of everyone in the future….Sad really…
Very sad.You will have noticed who was first on to question you?.
TBB
It’s an absolute farce which you’ve highlighted very succinctly.
BT..,
Well you need to stop advocating people should break ducks it’s just downright cruel now duck eggs that’s different
TBB
It makes you wonder what’s the point of having rules in the first place if they are going to be re-a.rangered to suit the desired outcome of the allegedly corrupt officials:))
Good post..
Starry…,
Allegedly the officials are not corrupt