A journalist, banned by Celtic, attacked the club in the Daily Record today, suggesting the SFA chief exec Stuart Regan should have told Peter Lawwell to ‘wind his neck in’ and ‘remind him of his duty to the game’ after he wrote asking for clarification after Sunday’s game.
The hyperbole was raised to the extent the notion “Lawwell dragged our game back into a very dark place – somewhere dangerously close to disrepute” was put into hundreds of thousands of hands today.
A dark place, close to disrepute? For writing a letter asking for clarification? Sounds to me like the know the trouble Peter Lawwell is causing to the vested interests at Hampden and they want him stopped.
By remarkable coincidence, this happens to be the same journo who wrote the puff piece for SFA president, Campbell ‘What school did you go to?’ Ogilvie for writing to Uefa demanding a referee was demoted (while circumventing due process) and asking for a player to be banned.
No mention of winding a neck in or duty to the game for a vastly farther reaching letter.
The same paper gives a platform to Barry ‘EBT’ Ferguson to level wholly inaccurate accusations against Celtic:
“By questioning the reasoning behind [the failure to award a penalty]in the name of their supporters, they were nodding towards all manner of hoary old conspiracy theories.”
Conspiracy you say, Barry? Who mentioned conspiracy? An explanation that the standard of refereeing is not good enough and that having 6 officials at Hampden hindered good decision making didn’t occur to you?
Some people are quick to deny conspiracies when a far less controversial response is available.
A concerted campaign has run for days now to ensure that Celtic cannot ask questions without being demonised. When the media demonise those who question authority we are in a very dark place indeed.
This is intolerable. It would not happen in England, where the breadth of media is wide enough to escape narrow seams of authority. It doesn’t matter if it is the government, the Church, the police, big business or sport, if media collaborate with power, you have problems.
Some of it comes from people perhaps bitter that Celtic called them out and banned them, some from those unable to find perspective or consistency between writing about a Campbell Ogilvie letter and a Peter Lawwell letter. All of them are time-served opinion formers who make money from Celtic’s actions.
We are the last superpower in the game, survivors in the battle of the ages. This antagonism isn’t going away. Not until their grandchildren are in place, anyway.
Clubs need to write letters when improvement is needed. I hear estimates that income to Celtic from winning the Scottish Cup would have been in the region of £1m. Football is big business and processes and resources need to as good as they possibly can be. If they are not, the very least you can do is ask for improvement.
On Meekings appeal yesterday….
The player’s appeal was right to be upheld, the case should never have been put before the SFA panel in the first place. The referee Steven McLean saw the incident. That was not disputed. He asked his assistant for his opinion. That was not disputed either.
Meekings representatives pointed out at the hearing that officials are not allowed to re-referee a game after watching TV. This is a central tenant of the game and was accepted by the judicial panel.
Retrospective action is only allowed for incidents which referees did not see. It is not permitted for referees to reconsider an incident he saw. It is blindingly embarrassing to our game that the SFA didn’t know the rules well enough before taking this action. I hear there was incredulity at Celtic when they heard Meekings was banned in the first place.
…… and you wonder why Celtic write letters.
Last call for the Ben Nevis Huddle……..
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A couple questions this morning
1. Have the SFA respomded to celtics request for clarification of the handball incident? If so are celtic going to publish that clarification given that they blamed the fans for having to do so?
2. Have the SFA offered an official explanation as to why meekings ban wasn’t upheld?
I’m sure since it is a chain pub there is some relevance. It is right next to tabernacle lane, we’re the local masonic hall is.
..don’t forget the janny!!
For anyone who thinks ICT will be easy meat today, Aberdeen are 11/8.
For those who think the Huns are guaranteed promotion, they are on offer at 7/4 to do so and are 1/2 today against Falkirk.
JJ
corkcelt,
Don’t you remember the great throw in scandal of 1989 when we beat the dead club? Roy Aitken took a throw that may not have been ours near the half way line and Joe Miller eventually scored? The winning goal in a cup final, no less.
Football was in turmoil, questions were asked in the House and the UN were rumoured to be ready to become involved. (I may have made some, or all, of that up …)
School in the 60s. Only made it in 69 but can remember lunch tickets on a roll , sixpence or free. Cycling proficiency in the playground -like that was gonna help you on the road . Thinking the boiler room was inhabited by a monster . Singing Ave Maria at the top of your voice -ding doing and trying to find newly replaced windows so you could scrape the putty out , thereby ensuring they would need done again .
Oh , and playing “you show me yours…” with the girls – or was that just me ?!
I think I got an education in the middle of all that.
Sanna
SMSM;
‘Let’s ask at least one Sevconian a day about the Celtic penalty fiasco’
johann said,
“football finishing 112-76 on a Friday”.
Where I lived, we used to play 10 half-time 21 the game during the week (light nights) and 15 and 31 on Sundays. We had players who scored 1000 goals long before Pele ever did 0:-)
JJ
Changed days with kids who need it getting learning support in most classes. The blonde one came out with a statement there but better no write it. Schools are politically driven now, with emphasis put on performance, seems there’s a great, average and poor, with the emphasis put on one of them now.
One looks after themselves, one gets missed out and the other gets plenty…. But who’s going to achieve the most, the great go abroad… what we left with, controversial.
What do in know.
Ayrshire is Green and White
jungle jim
I was at Secondary School 62 -68. I much preferred it to Primary School..Some excellent teachers / some average teachers and a few who were in the wrong job. I dealt with the latter by doing the auto didactic thing.Cheeky, opinionated me was belted daily. My parents were regularly required to have a chat with the Heedie. Day I left , the Heedie told me that I would either get a First at Uni or end up in jail – It is up to you.!
It must be a generation thing as I loved the school especially the secondary,can mind they fitted a p.a system right through the corridors and had a wee dj room that played the music of the day through it at dinner time,yer pals,teachers,great jannys,school discos,trips to Langbank ,Smithston House n Newton St Boswells.
Great days.
Neganon2
I agree with your general concern: Will Celtic reveal what the SFA reply but ` blamed the fans`? What about, `responded to the fans` concerns` ?
JJ
JJ – I think we had a few boys (and a girl) who scored 1000 goals too ! :) hh
I remember those cards for the black babies, and if you sold a whole card you got to name the kid, wooft!
Some of them poor kids had some dodgy names am tellin you,
Celtic interested in signing HSV’s Rafael van der Vaart, according to Bild. He’s out of contract in summer.
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon
I was away on holiday so missed the ‘handball’ final.
Came home a week later and the furore over the decision was still on going.
One of my mates taped the game and let me borrow it.
WTF…I thought one of ours bhoys had thrown directly into their box. :O) The shame .
Neganon2
On your second question, a note of reasons from the appeal states that the judicial panel was ‘ not entitled’ to enforce the cup-final ban, as the incident was seen by the officials, but not the handball!!
So the complaint was not upheld against Meekings “without any consideration of the merits of the incident, or the decision arrived at by the referee”.
I’d be surprised if any SFA statement strayed from this ‘explanation’.
As someone has already said on here, the handball was the incident!
SoT
I preferred Secondary School as well but the teaching, in my personal experience, was better at Primary. We do, however, share the belted daily experience 0:-).
Started working on the bike yesterday. What a beautiful thing is a Flying Scot .
JJ
TBJ
The Ritz is not a hun shop
south of tunis
10:45 on 25 April, 2015
jungle jim
I was at Secondary School 62 -68. I much preferred it to Primary School..Some excellent teachers / some average teachers and a few who were in the wrong job. I dealt with the latter by doing the auto didactic thing.Cheeky, opinionated me was belted daily. My parents were regularly required to have a chat with the Heedie. Day I left , the Heedie told me that I would either get a First at Uni or end up in jail – It is up to you.!
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So SoT, how much time did you do:-)
Remember at primary in the 50’s doing mental arithmetic. Pal was asked:
What are 6 halfpenny cakes ?
He answered TEABREAD ! And was serious !
Anthony MCGill looks some player and is 16/1 to win at the Crucible, half the odds ew, first two.
He beat Mark Selby the defending champ.to get to the Quarters.
WDH
Correct .. Although I was asked to lose my Celtic hat one night ( straight after a match at Celtic park ) and was refused a drink in that absolute dump
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Nearly a week in and still raging about the semi robbery.
You know what gets me most? Not one of these bassa officials appears to have been punished.
All six are collecting another wedge this weekend with Dallas and McLean also having had games last Wednesday.
They’re in no way sorry. They did the job they were tasked to do and are now laughing openly in our faces with us the only losers. Feckin’ disgrace.
doc
The occasional weekend.
South of Tunis – if you’re still on
You may remember I asked about travelling to Sicily a few weeks ago.
Well, we had a great time and there was so much to see that you really need a month or so.
I didn’t ask for further advice as I wanted to make up my mind without preconceptions.
Added to that, you would have warned me about petty crime and I was completely paranoid about that before leaving.
We had no problems thankfully on that score though Catania is a city I’ve no desire to go to again.
Neganon2/Beatbhoy
Which leaves the question of why Derk Boerrigter got banned for diving (retrospectively) even though the referee also saw that incident.
South Of Tunis
10:45 on
25 April, 2015
jungle jim
I was at Secondary School 62 -68. I much preferred it to Primary School..Some excellent teachers / some average teachers and a few who were in the wrong job. I dealt with the latter by doing the auto didactic thing.Cheeky, opinionated me was belted daily. My parents were regularly required to have a chat with the Heedie. Day I left , the Heedie told me that I would either get a First at Uni or end up in jail – It is up to you.!
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When do you get out :-))
“the incident was seen by the officials, but not the handball!!”
If you consider `the incident` as the ball being hit by some part of Meekings but the officials don`t know which part, then that makes sense. In a goalmouth melee we might see the ball go in the net but not see who put it there.
JJ
McLean fourth official last night.
Shameless CSC
SoT:-)
The rules for retrospective action are made up as they go along. Only if the ref didn’t see it, unless the ref did see part of it, or maybe if the player dived and conned the ref.
Or, simply, if we say so.
Doc
Damn you man! You beat me to it :-))
Jungle Jim Hot Smoked – 10:05
If there’s a right way and a wrong way, and a left hand path and a right hand path, my ability to always choose the latter and the former is always unerringly uncanny. :o)
Yes the Ritz isn’t a Hun pub and I would say Finlay’s isn’t either but across the road there’s the Black bull which the zombie,hun flute players stand outside on a regular basis.
Has anyone had their renewal pack for their ST through the post yet?
So, who asked this humorous question: When do you get out :-)) ?
Was it TOSB? Doc or SoT? Whoever it was, you certainly made me smile 0:-)
Cheerio for now,
JJ
Being fourth official ISNT being demoted .