A journalist, banned by Celtic, attacked the club in the Daily Record today, suggesting the SFA chief exec Stuart Regan should have told Peter Lawwell to ‘wind his neck in’ and ‘remind him of his duty to the game’ after he wrote asking for clarification after Sunday’s game.
The hyperbole was raised to the extent the notion “Lawwell dragged our game back into a very dark place – somewhere dangerously close to disrepute” was put into hundreds of thousands of hands today.
A dark place, close to disrepute? For writing a letter asking for clarification? Sounds to me like the know the trouble Peter Lawwell is causing to the vested interests at Hampden and they want him stopped.
By remarkable coincidence, this happens to be the same journo who wrote the puff piece for SFA president, Campbell ‘What school did you go to?’ Ogilvie for writing to Uefa demanding a referee was demoted (while circumventing due process) and asking for a player to be banned.
No mention of winding a neck in or duty to the game for a vastly farther reaching letter.
The same paper gives a platform to Barry ‘EBT’ Ferguson to level wholly inaccurate accusations against Celtic:
“By questioning the reasoning behind [the failure to award a penalty]in the name of their supporters, they were nodding towards all manner of hoary old conspiracy theories.”
Conspiracy you say, Barry? Who mentioned conspiracy? An explanation that the standard of refereeing is not good enough and that having 6 officials at Hampden hindered good decision making didn’t occur to you?
Some people are quick to deny conspiracies when a far less controversial response is available.
A concerted campaign has run for days now to ensure that Celtic cannot ask questions without being demonised. When the media demonise those who question authority we are in a very dark place indeed.
This is intolerable. It would not happen in England, where the breadth of media is wide enough to escape narrow seams of authority. It doesn’t matter if it is the government, the Church, the police, big business or sport, if media collaborate with power, you have problems.
Some of it comes from people perhaps bitter that Celtic called them out and banned them, some from those unable to find perspective or consistency between writing about a Campbell Ogilvie letter and a Peter Lawwell letter. All of them are time-served opinion formers who make money from Celtic’s actions.
We are the last superpower in the game, survivors in the battle of the ages. This antagonism isn’t going away. Not until their grandchildren are in place, anyway.
Clubs need to write letters when improvement is needed. I hear estimates that income to Celtic from winning the Scottish Cup would have been in the region of £1m. Football is big business and processes and resources need to as good as they possibly can be. If they are not, the very least you can do is ask for improvement.
On Meekings appeal yesterday….
The player’s appeal was right to be upheld, the case should never have been put before the SFA panel in the first place. The referee Steven McLean saw the incident. That was not disputed. He asked his assistant for his opinion. That was not disputed either.
Meekings representatives pointed out at the hearing that officials are not allowed to re-referee a game after watching TV. This is a central tenant of the game and was accepted by the judicial panel.
Retrospective action is only allowed for incidents which referees did not see. It is not permitted for referees to reconsider an incident he saw. It is blindingly embarrassing to our game that the SFA didn’t know the rules well enough before taking this action. I hear there was incredulity at Celtic when they heard Meekings was banned in the first place.
…… and you wonder why Celtic write letters.
Last call for the Ben Nevis Huddle……..
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Primary school in the 60s ( left in 62 )
Boring / repetitive / regimented / didactic / dictatorial/the less able were ignored and left to their fate. Teachers who weren’ t up to the job / teachers who couldn’ t relate to weans .Poverty / NHS specs with an elastoplast on one lens. Cast off clothes / yer big sisters old wellies and a much mended sleeveless Fair Isle jumper. Nits and scabies..The nit nurse. ******* country dancing / the Quali dance / the Quali exam / the IQ test .Being belted for having an opinion. Being belted for knowing more about wildlife than the teacher..Being poked with the pointer / being hit across your knuckles with a triangular ruler. Izal tolet paper.. A heedie with a cloak. An assistant heedie who looked and behaved like a Nazi Dentist.Being asked Why does your mother have a tattoo on her arm ? She worked for the Germans Miss.. I got an A – I was allowed to determine my own future.
Why was McCall asked about the Meekins incident?
What does his club know about cup semi finals? Or dodgy decisions going against them? Or fair play?
Tonydonnelly67
At least you learned some Latin.
TONYDONNELLY 0950
Sorry,mate. Badly-worded post,it wasn’t meant as a dig at you.
It was in reply to yours about the whereabouts of Michael Gannon.
Might have helped if I’d put the time against it. As I did this time.
Haven’t read any of the stuff in the rags today but I’m glad they’re still keeping up the nonsense. They can only tie themselves up in further knots. WE KNOW THE TRUTH AND ITS OUT THERE. Let’s keep it in people’s minds. Scotland doesn’t want to hear the truth and certainly doesn’t want to deal with it because it reveals what was its Secret Shame: bigotry and racism is alive and well here and is still being, at the very least, tolerated. No longer; no more.
Tony D agree completely about teachers. And michael gannon,where is he
tonydonnelly67
09:55 on 25 April, 2015
I think that was the case for a long time. I remember my da telling me how the same lessons were taught to 50 odd weans and if you didn’t understand it, then tough.
Thankfully, those days are gone and there is a much greater emphasis on ensuring the learning of all.
Right offski for now.
Td67
The plastic balls lasted 2 minutes. They got either chewed by a dug, or burst on the fence.
We played a lot with a tennis ball and I even remember somebody taping up a piece of sponge from an old couch which was lying in the street, made it into a decent baw. Even cans, anything to play Fitba with. Sounds like the 1890’s but this was about 64-65.
Ict v sheep preview reveals the big bowly thug draper .. Who McLean let off a booking last week … Is banned from today’s match for Totting up of yellow cards
lubo of the lamp said:
“If the situation had been reversed and it was ICT who were the beneficiaries of this injustice …”
ICT were the beneficiaries of this injustice, were they not? I think I get your point just the same 0:-)
JJ
TonyDonnelly67 @ 9:55.
Who posted that under your name? Far too mellow for you!
JJ
PS I am hoping to visit the BH on Friday. Can I assume you will be there?
Tony D – at the risk of sounding like Campbell Ogilvie – what school did you go to? In the Gorbals St Francis and wee Bonnies don’t sound like the school you describe.
jungle jim hot smoked
10:05 on 25 April, 2015
lubo of the lamp said:
“If the situation had been reversed and it was ICT who were the beneficiaries of this injustice …”
ICT were the beneficiaries of this injustice, were they not? I think I get your point just the same 0:-)
JJ
Lol, you should be in the smsm JJ, nice spin. :))
SOT
Very evocative, funny, and very true.
My cousin’s married to a well qualified woman from Beijing. She describes the Chinese and Korean school system as closer to UK 60’s style. Seventy to a class and if you sat at the back it’s easy to miss what was said. Just tough luck, get on with it, catch up, pass or else, ruthless.
Such is the pressure to succeed and get a decent paid job, it doesn’t effect the learner, according to her. Oh and that’s till 6 pm in some provinces.
Morning, someone mentioned the SFA are the laughing stock, I honestly don’t see it, they are I know, in our eyes but unless it’s someone else no one cares. We must keep this going, I think we will get to the truth along the same scale as Dougie Dougie.. If not more so.
TD and school, your right about the slow learners not being treated the same guys in my class who I would say now, would be in a special needs school were at the back of the class reading a primary one reading book, that was in secondary school. Children of a lower class or less fortunate were glossed over too, I see some of them now, drug addicts alcoholics but some made it through and are doing well for themselves.
Thankfully times have changed in schooling, but it just seems like yesterday, in football it’s still the same.
I’m not a teacher by the way, but live with one, you and her would get on fine she is very strong on education for all and getting the best out of everyone.
No golden time in her school….
Ayrshire is Green and White
My experience of primary school in the sixties was great
Went to St Anne’s, Crownpoint road
Teachers volunteering to take football teams and coach, holiday camps to the “country”, school choirs, school open after hours and week-ends so we had somewhere to play
Not all good with the belt of course but I have great memories and lessons from my primary school time
leftclicktic
09:46 on 25 April, 2015
tonydonnelly67
The Bell the bell the B.E L
Tell the teacher I’m no well :)))))
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We sang that version as well! I blame Kafflick schools myself ;-)
As someone who was a pupil in the 50`s and 60`s and a teacher of 11-16 year olds from the late 70`s `till 2007 I can say that teaching , with some notable exceptions, was very poor at the Secondary level in those earlier decades.My Primary experience was good but I remember very little of any use that was imparted to me in the classroom. Outside the classroom, on the other hand, was a genuine learning experience 0:-)
I believe my memories of teaching from those days and learning from their `mistakes`, helped me tremendously in my attempt to make a decent fist of it all those years later.
CelticUniversityCSC
PINTAGUINNESS
I’m offski for a few of your moniker. I’m gonna ask for the strong stuff you’ve been on!
By contrast secondary school at St Mungos, Duke Street and Parson Street frightened the hell out of me
Winklepickers
Digestive biscuit and a bottle of milk!
phyllis dietrichson
I went to St Johns Accadamy For Young Gentlemen on Clelend St. gorbals.
pinta
When did you go to Duke Street and Parson Street?
There is a relatively new pub in main street Cambuslang. Can’t remember it’s name but it is one of a large chain, wetherspoons I think. Anyway above its entrance is a new huge sign in the shape of a compass and set square. . .
PINTAGUINNESS
School milk?
Either frozen solid or warm from having been left outside all morning. How we all looked forward to it…
Jungle Jim
1965 to 1970
I wish Big Chris had pointed out to Calderwood that his team’s ‘efforts’ were all in vain anyway, as we now know that throughout that season Rangers(1872-2012) selected improperly registered players.
The penalty for that is a 3 point deduction per game, but let’s not be vindictive, and just apply it the once to cover the season.
That would mean that we only needed a point to secure the 3 titles in a row down at Rugby Park on that last day, and of course we bettered that with a 4-0 hammering.
And if we apply the same to 2005, we were actually already Champions stepping out onto the Fir Park ‘pitch’.
Even a high court judge could work it out!
Of foot. Shopping in Dunfermline with she who must be obeyed,
67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar…… Ipox belongs to the creditors
09:20 on 25 April, 2015
So mccall says his club wouldn’t have complained since it was an obvious hib error ……hahahahahahaha
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He is a manager of a three year old club with barely 100 games, and mostly against part-time teams.
Maybe if they reach the big league or a cup final and get a bad decision, things will be different.
Did the various teams that represent the Glasgow Huns ever get a really horrible decision against them that cost them a match?.
6 days on and I’m still fuming, looked at the stills again and McClean is looking straight at it. He saw it plain enough, he didn’t need Muir or anyone else, he saw it but he knew the consequences of giving it and he didn’t give it.
One of the worst and most obvious of the litany of “Honest Mistakes” perpetrated against us.
Pinta,
Thanks. You took the place vacated by me!
Not really. I left in `62. ACGR and I drive past the Duke St school on our way home after matches. I never fail to point out that, ” That is my old school.” ! As I said earlier, I did not learn a tremendous amount but I did enjoy school. Not `the best days of my life` by any stretch but some good fun days.
JJ
JJ
Comfy
It’s the john fairweather on the main st .. Used to be a cinema years ago (I’m told ) and retains the balconies etc .
As for the insignia .. I noticed if but as it’s clang I thought it pretty normal and it certainly doesn’t stop me going in and paying less that £2 a pint as the rest of the pubs are Hun shops
Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles
09:27 on
25 April, 2015
Marrakesh, as an aside, Miss Dower in my primary one who kept her belt in one of those big chocolate boxes you used to get with a photo on the front and a ribbon across it. Imagine giving the belt to a primary one child these days? You’d end up in the jail!
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Only after you’ve been discharged from hospital!
The Comfortable Collective
10:24 on
25 April, 2015
There is a relatively new pub in main street Cambuslang. Can’t remember it’s name but it is one of a large chain, wetherspoons I think. Anyway above its entrance is a new huge sign in the shape of a compass and set square. . .
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First thing I noticed about the place……shooooorly you would want to keep the knuckledraggers away ???
The Comfortable Collective
The John Fairweather ,named after the architect….that was handy.
Celtic have called the SFA out on this one. Meekings, cheating shit, should not be/have been retrospectively banned but the main protagonists, the 2 Arsene Wenger’s, should be banned from officiating at another top flight match for the rest of the season, simples. I know that all 6 said they saw nothing but the 2 who undoubtedly did should be made to fall on their swords. Anything less than this should be unacceptable to Celtic. If I made an equivalent blunder in my job the repercussions would be pretty serious.
As regards all the mouthy huns that are putting their tuppence in, yer team’s deid ya manky huns GIRFUY. Sad, deluded, hurting individuals that you are – enjoy life in the lower echelons, hopefully for eternity. C,mon the Hibees COYBIG.
Primary-milk monitors -collecting for the black babies -playing football with lumps of coal ( Mrs Bradley banned balls!!!)
Staying out in the rain /sleet /snow at play times and dinner times -games of football finishing 112-76 on a Friday -school team fitba at Friars td pitches when Mr Tolland arrived -boys playgrounds -girls playgrounds #stconvalscsc