You wouldn’t announce an event, encourage others to sell tickets, without booking the venue. You just wouldn’t do it. These things have an order: book the venue, then announce the event. It’s a matter of courtesy to all involved, not to mention being an operational necessity.
Why then, do we have the unedifying scenario of Hamilton Accies releasing a statement to say New Douglas Park is unavailable for the date the SFA advertised a Scottish Cup game between East Kilbride and Celtic would take place? It’s just remotely possible that Accies have reneged on an earlier commitment given to the SFA, but the tone of their statement suggests otherwise.
This is for a game which is scheduled to take place one week on Sunday. Fans have to acquire and distribute tickets, travel arrangements have to be made, police and stewarding have to be booked (by East Kilbride, who are the home team, remember).
This should be a great day for the young club but it’s shrouded in considerable commercial uncertainty: how much will policing, stewarding and stadium rental cost? Who at East Kilbride will guarantees these bills and how? The police and host club may take a lax view on credit, but the stewarding provider won’t. What revenue can be expected? None of these issues can be known until a venue is found.
I’m not going to support Pat Nevin’s views, which offended Dundee manager, Paul Hartley on Sportscene at the weekend. I didn’t hear his comments, so cannot conclude if he was talking “absolute garbage”, or if Nevin had verged into the kind of territory which saw him issue an apology under threat of legal action last month. But I’m not convinced the scope of Hartley’s comments are appropriate.
Dundee lose goals. Lots of them. Their only clean sheet since 12 September came against Hamilton Accies last month. The objective facts suggest their defensive strategy is an appropriate subject for criticism. This season they lost 6 in one game against Celtic and 8 over two matches against Ross County.
Analysis and criticism is the domain of pundits and fans, even those, who Paul Hartley notes, have “never coached or managed a team”. Attacking the pundit (or the programme) is easier than explaining a (subjectively) poor defensive record, or keeping clean sheets, apparently.
Paul said “It’s not what it used to be like, away back in the 1980s when you wanted to sit up and watch Sportscene on a Saturday night”. Back then Archie Macpherson fronted the show. Archie told me about a similar run-in he had with Alex Ferguson, who angrily disagreed with the commentator’s view of a defensive infraction.
Archie’s view on his opinion being irrelevant due to his lack of coaching experience was memorable, “I’ve never laid an egg, but I know when I taste a bad one”.
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‘GG on 27th January 2016 3:59 am
Your points are unanswerable.
Maybe they took their cue from the mothership , F.I.F.A.
:-(
Andy Murray wins first set against Ferrer
I may get some sleep tonight
6-3 for Andy BTW in 47 minutes.
Eddieinkirkmichael on 26th January 2016 5:25 pm
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Hail Hail fella.
Eh, if I recall correctly, did Turnbull Hutton’s performances on the steps of Hampden not fire up the fury amongst fans to ensure that Rangers wouldn’t be allowed into the top league ?
Just like it took Aberdeen fans to display a banner at Celtic Park….letting Celtic fans and, anybody else know that…it’s [clocked] that Celtic are in bed with the huns…always have been / always will be till the club is restructured…imho.
Anyway….how many £millions did the huns cheat Raith Rovers FC out of ?
How many trophy’s did the huns cheat Raith Rovers FC out of ?
Point is….why did the snowmen who run Celtic FC, let an ill old man front the case for the cheated public ?
Also, why haven’t Celtic supporters, challenged the Celtic PLC hierarchy’s ostrich-act re: ‘ALL’ the cheating by the huns ?
Never mind all their ‘nameless’ statements on the official website saying that they’re surprised at LNS’s whitewash or, PL’s p#sh about Celtic being a stand alone club…bunkum…dancing roon the issue type of cowardice that lets the hun establishment know that there will be ‘NO’ challenge to the cheating from Celtic Park and, that speaks for all Celtic supporters….I’m glad I’m just a long lost fan now…in a way.
Are they hiding behind the sofa to let the Internet Bampots fight the case ?….looks like it to me.
Never mind the narrative being spun by a collection of conveniently planted smoke-screen merchants who’ll have you believe that this is not Celtic’s fight….bunkum.
The danger here is that, Celtic supporters start to take the PLC hierarchy’s cue and, look the other way.
My fear is that…..Celtic’s hierarchy who, sold out Celtic supporters to the establishment after the shame game and, got away with it…..will do it again.
Apart from a Celtic FC….run by a board of rebellious Celtic supporters…..who do you think will land the knock-out punch on the cheating huns-chins….that will end all of this shambles ?
HH
Andy loses the second set in a rousing tie breaker.
This bear needs his bawbaws.
I’ll take it up in the morning.
Good morning all from a damp but poreticipation free East Kilbride, west of Airdrie ;-)
Once the same Club debate opens up the one thing that strikes me is that many smart well informed individuals try to disprove the SFA’s stance by arguing on irrelevant grounds i.e. Basic Company Law; That a Company that acquired the assets of a Company in liquidation cannot be one in the same.
This is fairly obvious and you’ll find that the SFA won’t argue this self evident truth, they will of course deflect. As was the case with Daryl Broadfoot recently.
This is known as misdirection, the SFA will be happy to debate and deflect this notion time and time again. The reason, this is not the grounds that they purport the same Club agenda, it’s a misnomer, of course they would rather the whole debate abates and all accept their word for it – it is the same Club – yet if it has to be discussed then folk mulling, writing, gassing over whether Rangers died or not suits the SFA’s agenda fine.
To understand the basis on which the SFA state that Sevco Scotland Football Club are the same Club (NB: NOT Company) as Rangers, with history intact we need to go to the infamous five way agreement.
Now of course there are drafts around and much analysis of this document, though the final draft and signed agreement has never been made public.
We know enough though to examine the roles of five in the parcel and how successful or otherwise they were at delivering their part.
Of course we have Charles Green’s Sevco Scotland, they wanted to be seen as a continuation of Rangers with the team and history intact. They brought the assets, ip and players from the old Rangers (il) to the party.
Then their was the administrators, they changed Rangers FC’s name i.e. Rangers FC PLC, to Rangers 2012 Ltd and gave permission for Sevco Scotland to change their name The Rangers FC Ltd.
Then there was the SPL, they were supposed to facilitate the handover of Rangers FC’s share in the premier league to Sevco Scotland.
The SFL were there to as representatives of the majority of Scottish Professional Football Clubs to agree to and rubber stamp the process.
The SFA were there to give official credence to the “process” and transfer Rangers FC’s licence to Sevco Scotland.
Now then if we look at Charles Green’s role, he was pretty much successful in securing the assets and ip of Rangers FC, he had mixed results in securing the services of the players, many Rangers players TUPE’d over to Sevco Scotland but several, some prominent, players never. Of course if it had been the same Football Club players would not have needed to TUPE over and players under contract to Rangers would not have been able to do “walking away” (as several did) as they’d be obliged to honour their contracts.
The rights and wrongs of the administrators to allow Sevco Scotland to use the Rangers FC name is not for me to discuss but the fact is the administrators believed that this was within their gift and the name was transferred. Once again, if they were the same Club, there would be no reason to transfer the name from one Club to the other.
The SPL, well here we can get a bit of heart, it was one aspect of the agreement that had come to the public domain. When the Scottish Football fans got wind of it they threatened to boycott and refuse to buy season tickets. This lead to the member Clubs refusing to allow the transfer of the SPL share and the share remained in the short term with Rangers (il).
The SFL leaders wanted to parachute Charles Green’s new Club straight in to their highest League i.e. The second tier of Scottish Football. There was a schism and lead by Mr Turnbull Hutton of Raith Rovers the SFL’s Club Chairman rejected the plan to put the new Club into the second tier and allowed the new Club to enter the League at the bottom Division (NB: whether they fitted the criteria is something I’m not debating now). Rangers’ premier league share went to Dundee. Again, if it was the same Club this process would not have taken place.
Now we come to the crux of the matter, the SFA, the governing body, the Authority that is there to ensure proper governance, what was their role and why despite a plethora of evidence to the contrary do they state that Rangers and Sevco Scotland under the terms of the agreement is the same Club?
Well it’s simple, using article 13 of the Articles of Association – the rule that is supposed to prohibit and prevent Clubs undertaking a Corporate restructuring to avoid their Corporate, Social and financial responsibilities and liabilities – the SFA transferred Rangers FC Licence to Sevco Scotland.
Forget the liquidation arguments, forget buying the history, in fact forget all the misdirection. The one and ONLY reason the SFA state that Rangers and Sevco Scotland are the same Club, is because they have the same SFA licence. That’s the long and short of it.
If the same Club myth has to be successfully challenged it is by arguing:
A. The SFA acted wrongly in allowing Rangers FC to transfer their Licence to Sevco Scotland
B. That the transfer of a Licence from one Club to another does not make those two Clubs one in the same.
Anything else is p***ing in the wind and the SFA will continue to deflect and continue to laugh up their Blazer sleeves.
Hail Hail
Chairbhoy
thanks for that, good stuff and well laid out. And got me thinking – whatever became of Club 12 that existed when the 2012-13 fixture list first came out and Triggers Broom FC were nowhere to be seen.
CHAIRBHOY on 27TH JANUARY 2016 7:13 AM
If the same Club myth has to be successfully challenged it is by arguing:
A. The SFA acted wrongly in allowing Rangers FC to transfer their Licence to Sevco Scotland
B. That the transfer of a Licence from one Club to another does not make those two Clubs one in the same.
Anything else is p***ing in the wind and the SFA will continue to deflect and continue to laugh up their Blazer sleeves.
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Hail Hail fella.
That was an absolutely excellent post.
One wee query, who’ll do the arguing ?
The Celtic board who are paid to stand up for the rights of the, biggest victims of the cheating ?
Or, the Internet Bampots ?
Hail Hail
well, well…..well!?
….tic…..toak.
CHAIRBHOY, great post! Maybe I’ve missed your final point previously, but I don’t think that I’ve heard it emphasised in that way before.
The big question for all right-thinking fans is what to do about it.
As someone who now lives and works abroad, I’ve not thought of much beyond telling CFC that I will not renew my Celtic TV membership next season, unless they speak out in the next few months.
HH
…..aye, ah see yer still listening tae Chick Young and his ilk….eh.
…whinnur whit types listen tae Chico…eh….
Empty the kowtowing Celtic board…..or…
…the cheating-huns will be back to lord it over ye.
Deal wi the post….not the poster – CSC
Hahaha, there are negatives and I told you so’s all over this article, they are there if you look hard enough, I wonder if he posts in here :))
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/celtic/14232698.Celtic_surely_won_t_lost_a_FIFTH_cup_tie_to_a_Highland_club___but_only_if_they_know_and_learn_from_their_history/?ref=rss
Apologies if I’ve upset all the chummy, backslapping, blind-folded, best fans in the world delusional classes….whilst, yer beloved board sell yeez oot the back door….dear, dear.
Wake up or, hun-punch-bags will be your zenith.
Deal wi the post….not the poster – CSC.
….leaving…..
Oh aye! Boydyachenco raring up, to the GASL lol
http://videocelts.com/2016/01/blogs/latest-news/kris-boyd-calls-out-king-show-us-the-money#wT8QREF0LyGGyuKi.97
JOBO BALDIE @ 7:25 AM,
“…whatever became of Club 12 that existed when the 2012-13 fixture list first came out and Triggers Broom FC were nowhere to be seen.”
Thx… Club 12 was simply a device, once the SPL had failed to get the share transferred to Sevco they needed time to sort out plan B, of course there was a genuine debate as to who should get the share, the Club demoted from the SPL or the Club that came second in the SFL.
The fixture announcements couldn’t be put off but they didn’t want Dundee to get the nod until the Rangers/Sevco cluster had been resolved. The 5 way agreement wasn’t signed until the beginning of August 2012 and Rangers (il) held onto their SPL share and SFA Licence until it was signed. Note This was the week after Sevco Rangers had played their first game.
Club 12 like many things that summer was a fudge and put Dundee at a awful disadvantage as by the time the share was transferred they had no time to prepare for SPL Football.
KEVJUNGLE @ 7:31 AM,
Cheers… Well of course it should be the Clubs, all the member Clubs of the SFA should not allow this to continue, for me they are going to quietly acquiesce, unless, like during the SPL transfer the fans are prepared to boycott season tickets.
Sad state of affairs Kev, but there you are.
There’s only one Turnbull Hutton…
Literally!
NORTH CYPRUS (FORMERLY BAKU) BHOY @ 7:38,
“Maybe I’ve missed your final point previously, but I don’t think that I’ve heard it emphasised in that way before.”
Thanks, I have actually posted on this point several times, though not recently. In fact a few years back I got so frustrated at the lack of clarity, from Bampots as well as the MSM, that I fired off an e-mail to Stewart Regan, he had the good grace to reply and confirmed that the SFA did see the Clubs as one in the same and the SFA Board had used Article 13 to transfer the Rangers Licence to Sevco.
As I said to Kevjungle, it’s really up to the Clubs to tackle this but as they have no appetite, guess we all need to do what we can… Hope you’re enjoying North Cyprus.
Hail Hail
I couldn’t resist a wee smile this morning when I read Ann Budge’s comments in respect of the appalling pre and post-match violence / abuse / hooliganism perpetrated by her Hearts supporters …. (where have you been all your life, Ann…..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
” I CANNOT BEGIN TO TELL YOU HOW ‘ANGRY’ THIS MAKES ME ”
Ann, it’s been going on for as long as I can remember …..I stopped going to Tynecastle 35 years ago because of it…….
Forget about loans.Patrick Roberts,if he is supposed to be that good,why isnt he in the first team at Man City,I See Mikeys move to Sevco has stalled,go on Celtic spend a bit of money and get him,good player can score goals to.
Chairbhoy
“The rights and wrongs of the administrators to allow Sevco Scotland to use the Rangers FC name is not for me to discuss but the fact is the administrators believed that this was within their gift and the name was transferred. Once again, if they were the same Club, there would be no reason to transfer the name from one Club to the other.”
A couple of quick comments as I head out:-
1) There is a lot of sense in your call for clarity but I worry that there may be some misdirection too.
2) What “administrators” are we talking about. I assumed Duff & Phelps etc; rather than the football administrators being referenced. If so, why is it not for you to comment. As a citizen, we are all allowed to comment on aspects of public finance (HMRC were the biggest debtor). If the duty of an administrator is to get the best deal for those owed, then this is a dubious, potentially corrupt, decision they have taken in agreeing to the 5 way scam, knowing that it allows the oldco to die unable to pay its debts and a newco to get assets cheaply which may have been sold to benefit the creditors. I think we are all allowed a comment on that form of corrupt thinking.
If it were the football administrators you were referencing, then their previous behaviour was to sell an existing SPL share to an existing club, whereby they had to take on the history of that prior club e.g. Airdrie United getting Clydebanks history rather than that of Airdrieonians even though they wanted to be a continuation of that latter club, playing as they did in Diamond strips out of Airdrie rather than in Clydebank guise. At no time in the past was the history of a club sold to a continuation of itself by the SPL (I am not aware of the SFA ever doing anything similar re licenses etc;)
3) The SFA license seems to me the least important aspect of this. After all, they never offered this way out to Third Lanark, Airdrieonians or Gretna and no rule changes had been made by the SFA so that they could suddenly dream up this solution for Rangers.
If you place their ability, if they have it, to grant the same license to a club in the circumstances Rangers faced in 2012, i.e. heading towards administration, in the forefront of your thoughts then the argument becomes – “It does not matter what Company Law rules were broken, that is irrelevant, a Sports Administrative Body can chose to ignore this and continue to see Rangers 2012-16 as the same club if they wish to do so. And that the SFA has had that right to do this, even though they have never exercised it once before in their previous 130 odd year history.
I have to leave my argument there. As always, I will add the caveat I always give to Barcabhoy, TBB and Auldheid. These issues are far from my area of expertise and I may be missing one piece of common knowledge you all share that explains this approach. I can only bring my own brand of sceptical logic to bear and it strikes me that reducing this to a question of what the SFA can arbitrarily do, if they want, is close to a surrendering of all legal grounds for complaint.
I hope, as usual, that I have totally misunderstood the thrust of the argument. Will catch replies later.
Timbhoy ……god, I wish you were our manager ……….
administration should read liquidation in point 3- Sorry got to run
An interesting comment taken from the johnjames blog
Cassandra’s Cat says:
January 26, 2016 at 7:46 pm
JJ, spivs love to create a fog of company name confusion and fill the air with corporate confetti, so I need to clarify one point.
The company that went into administration on 14-Feb-2012 is often abbreviated to RFC PLC. Its full name was Rangers Football Club plc. After Green’s CVA proposal was voted down by HMRC who held more than 25% of the debt, administrators Duff and Phelps changed the company name to just RFC 2012 plc (not Rangers Football Club 2012 plc).
https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/document-api-images-prod/docs/JadtlWKJaG2qlt_Sp-Xe8ZA1xv0lGx0iuGV8iXVh5OY/application-pdf
The only conceivable purpose for this was to allow Green to rename Sevco Scotland Ltd to The Rangers Football Club Ltd. on the same day, to create the illusion of continuity. Without D&P’s change it would have been impossible for Green to choose a company name containing “Rangers Football Club” without accusations of pheonixing.
https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/document-api-images-prod/docs/J8H10oBKdDlqLBDtXLfAwxA9dVEs1jSDXbDE1Ect0nw/application-pdf
There is no record of D&P charging for this valuable and crucial accommodation, or of Sevco Scotland Ltd paying for it. Creditors stiffed again? You decide!
A convenient side effect for the continuation myth is that searching Companies House for a liquidated company called “Rangers” draws a blank. You would need to search on RFC and check its document history.
Btw – a very refreshing presentation of the facts – respect.
For those who do not like to give the Evening Times hits, here is the article T0nyDonnelly67 linked at 7:47:
“BAD things tend to happen to Celtic whenever they are forced to play a team from the Highlands in a cup competition.
Three times, including last year’s ever-so-slightly contentious Scottish Cup semi-final, Inverness Caledonian Thistle have exited the men from Parkhead out of that particular tournament.
And Ross County got in on the act six years ago when they defeated Neil Lennon’s fledgling Celtic side 2-0 at Hampden in another semi-final, just weeks after Tony Mowbray got his jotters.
The two clubs will do it all over again on Sunday, same stage, same venue, although it will be a League Cup Final they will be going for this time.
A fifth defeat to a Highland team surely couldn’t happen, could it?
If Celtic play close to their best on Sunday afternoon at the National Stadium then they will defeat Ross County who it must be said are no mugs and are playing well enough to sit fourth in the Ladbrokes Scottish Premiership.
Those supporters who sat through the previous four defeats might just lose the will to live if a fifth comes along and destroys another Treble dream, something the Celtic players have been thinking about for some time.
Speaking in this week’s Celtic View, Gary Mackay-Steven said: “That (the semi-final) was in the back of our minds. We were obviously focusing on St Johnstone during the match on Saturday, but this is a massive game next up for us.
“It’s a trip to Hampden and the chance of getting into a cup final, which this club is known for and it’s where we want to be, so it’s a massive game and everyone is right up for that.
“I think the manager’s got a selection headache because a lot of players are coming back from injury with big players coming back to fitness so it keeps everyone on their toes, but I don’t think the manager would have it any other way.
“I want to play a big part in winning the trophies and this is the first one up for this season, the League Cup, and we are definitely putting all of our focus into that this week.
“So hopefully I’ll be giving the manager another headache as I want to be a part of that occasion at Hampden. It’s always great playing there.”
Well, not always, GMS. Not when you are Celtic in recent times as Mount Florida has proved to be a testing postcode for the club.
Kilmarnock, Hearts, Caley Thistle and, of course, County came away with unexpected wins.
Let’s go back to 2010 when a Celtic team which now looks more than a little odd – Josh Thompson and Morten Rasmussen anyone? – hardly got a kick against a lower league side.
Now it’s no huge secret that Ronny Deila and Lennon are not huge fans of one another, but the current manager would do a lot worse than to call his predecessor and ask him about what happened six years ago.
Lennon would most likely tell the Norwegian to get his players to do exactly the opposite of what his team, in the loosest sense of the word, did in that semi-final which was an awful day for the club, although in the long-term actually turned out not to be the worst thing that happened.
A case of ‘if you know the history’ as it were, and if they do, then the present players have to ensure they don’t repeat past mistakes.
At the time, Lennon said: “There are things you can give players – information, tactics.
“But there are two things you can’t give them – hunger and desire, and we were found wanting.
“County wanted it more. It has been endemic all season. We have gone out of every competition with a whimper. I’m way past angry. I spoke to the players coolly and calmly for 15-20 minutes after the game.
“They had one last chance of silverware for the club, the fans, themselves and they couldn’t see it through.
“I would imagine there will be a clear-out. I would be recommending it to the board.
“This season has been nowhere near good enough. That’s why Tony lost his job – the players we thought would be good enough ultimately were not.
“If I’m not here, I’m pretty certain that some of them won’t be either.
“I told them semi-finals are really hard games, it’s a different environment. They are always tense occasions, but you need to stay in the game.
“Our big players didn’t turn up today. If you are not prepared to go in there and get hurt, you are not going to win too many games.”
Ouch. It was some rant by Lennon and his words were heeded. From the squad on that day six years ago only Scott Brown and, this would have seemed mental at the time, Georgios Samaras who went on to play any sort of role during the Lennon era.
Deila cannot afford such a defeat. He might not be given time to rip it up and start again as Lennon was.
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Ross County under Jim McIntyre have come a more than useful side, but Sunday cannot be another ‘one of them’ for Celtic.
Today’s players would do well to read Lennon’s past comments which serve as a reminder of what can happen – more than once.”
JJ
Good morning CQN,
A quick hello in the 10 minute tea break I have before the work blocks all sport on the browser.
Have a good day!
Sorry, should have said 7:43.
JJ
PS It is yet another in the Truly Dreadful Series of articles on Celtic. It is an article full of hope…..the hope that Celtic will lose.
PPS I have only read the first half of the article so far so it is possible it goes on to praise Celtic…..possible!
67 Heaven,so whats wrong with my post, you are ok with players coming on loan,or is it Mikey you dont want,
SFTB
There’s a confusion or terms as between “membership” and “license”.
The SFA “license” was never transferred. The license is awarded to a legal entity based on that legal entity satisfying the licensing criteria. Sevco were not a licensed club when they started playing competitive matches, and only subsequently became eligible for the foundation level license. (NB: It is debateable whether they will satisfy the requirements of the Silver level license required for participation in the top league next season should they get there)
The “membership” was though, apparently transferred, according to the SFA, but only subsequent to Sevco being granted a ‘conditional’ membership in the period between the 5 Way Agreement being concluded, and the SFA Board voting on the matter. The SFA’s Articles actually prohibit such a ‘transfer’ without Board approval.
The parties to the 5 Way Agreement itself were:
SFA; SPL; SFL; Rangers plc; and Sevco Scotland.
Atthe time the agreement was executed, Rangers plc was a member of the SFA and SPL, while Sevco was a conditional member of the SFA and an associate member of the SFL.
Subesquent to the 5 Way Agreement, Rangers plc lost its membership of the SPL – their share was transferred to Dundee – and (apparently) their SFA membership was ‘transferred’ to Sevco.
The original “SFA member club” was the legal entity Rangers plc. That’s what it says in the rules of the Game. Only a legal entity can be a “member” and only a legal entity can be a “licensed club”.
This so-called ‘transfer’ of membership rather underlines the point that the two entities are different for the purposes of Scottish Football: If they were the same club, the same SFA member, there would have been no need to transfer anything. There would be no need to issue a new membership certificate to a new entity, as occured.
That the new entity participated in the Game iin Scotland without a SFA license is a different matter.
JJ-another effort worthy of the ‘Golden Brouge’,from the rancid Evening Times.
TBB et all
Was there not a time early on in the life of sevco when both they and the dead mob where due to play
I think 1 was a friendly the other a cup tie
Tramadol has dulled what little brain I had
Good Morning
SFTB
I was banging on to Auldheid four years ago about the “Licence” to play football.
No matter what company or organisation governs a club. No matter what that club is called or how it is defined in law. No matter whether is a phantom, is in administration or liquidation or is in rude health — if it does not have a licence to play football, or should never have had a licence to play football, or lied or deceived in relation to the detail of it’s application for a licence –it is gubbed, buggered, functus and a non footballing entity.
Just hang on to that notion at every twist and turn on this journey as I will wager that some pretty interesting, and as yet unpublicised, info will come to light as a result of the forthcoming trial.
AWE NAW
John James is at his best when he sticks to the facts — really cold hard facts.
Sometimes he tends to speculate and perhaps has a tendency to predict the future and the outcome of proceedings which he can neither control nor have any influence.
In my opinion that is a mistake and tends to his lessen his impact and credibility somewhat.
Not all court cases are raised to be won and behind numerous simultaneous court actions there should be a clear corporate and legal strategy. We have to wait and see if Big Mike’s team embarked upon a folly with their contempt of court farce or whether that was merely a diversion with another purpose intended all along.
However, the point about changing the name of Rangers Football Club PLC (In Administration) is a very good one.
When the name was changed, who it was changed by, what it was changed to are all known facts.
What has never been explained is why that change was made and who took the decision to change it and under what circumstances.
However, the insolvency practitioners concerned, a lawyer, an accountant and the eventual purhcaser of the assets have all been indicted and accused of acting in concert in relation to certain matters.
Even more interesting is the fact that another person on the same indictment appears to have claimed in the past that he was chiseled out of some kind of greater plan by the others despite paying a sum of money to participate in that plan.
Quite why the name was changed may well be one of the things that becomes clear in the course of the trial – and remember that these people will be attempting to save their liberty at that trial as opposed to carrying out any course of conduct designed to appease former or current season ticket holders, shareholders or investors.
However, in more important news between today and tomorrow I will take delivery of the firs poster declaring “BROGAN’S BOOTS!”
Photos may follow!
Some great posts already today,a bit like the CQN of old.
Morning Bhoys another miserable morning rain and very dull but hey ho we cant do anything about it. H.H.
BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN SUPPORTS OSCAR KNOX, MACKENZIE FURNISS AND ANYONE ELSE WHO FIGHTS NEUROBLASTOMA
‘John James is at his best when he sticks to the facts — really cold hard facts.’
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I quite like his opinion pieces about the G&SL.
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‘Not all court cases are raised to be won’
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It’s all very curious. If the purpose was to humiliate the G&SL then he would have been led as a witness.
The other odd thing is that nothing was made of the QC telling the court that the loan had been repaid when it hadn’t. It’s referred to in the judgement but without comment. Unless of course it was a bona fide misunderstanding by the QC, thought that’s hardly likely.
I was offline yesterday Bhoys did we finally get a venue for the EK game??
TIA
Some very informative post this morning. I much prefer that to the oft proffered, never changing opinions which are quite often the Menu del Dia 0:-)
JJ
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Airdrie`s Excelsior Stadium.
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Airdrie’s ground.