As you and I know, alcohol is sold at football games. If you are in a corporate seat, you can drink before kick-off, at halftime and again at fulltime. Prohibition only applies to the cheap seats.
Alcohol-related issues remain a problem in towns across Scotland in the hours after big games, but suggestions by First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, that there is a potential correlation between those drinking from cheap seats at games and violence (including the domestic kind) are simply unfounded. People are free to get tanked up before and after games, the wealthy can do so during games, and millions can do so in pubs and at home while watching games on TV.
I have some concerns about reintroducing alcohol for the rest of us. Alcohol requires appropriate infrastructure and ambiance – like there is at the Kerrydale Suite, for example. The North Stand Upper, where I sit, does not have the space, supervision capabilities, or even the toilets to become an appropriate venue to encourage the consumption of any more fluids. In the 20 years it’s been up, it’s never had enough paper towels to make it to halftime, and may God go with you, if you need to spend a longer visit, but don’t let that be a reason to stop the rest of you.
Modern football stadiums have many safe areas where alcohol can be consumed. Those who cannot handle their drink, would find themselves supervised to within an inch of a football banning order. Scotland needs to learn what a healthy attitude to alcohol looks like – check out the Kerrydale Suite for a glimpse.
Build the lounges, toilets, and grills. Put carpet down, dress stewards in black ties, have them welcome fans as “Sir” or “Madam”, treat football fans like responsible adults. It works in the hospitality areas and in the Kerrydale Suite, it’ll work from Palmerston to Peterhead.
Thank you for the tremendous response yesterday to the line-up for the CQN11 St Patrick’s Dinner. We have (St) Packy Bonnar, Tommy Coyne and Joe Miller for a Q&A, an unmissable address on Jock Stein by Archie Macpherson, and Celtic’s First Lady of Song, Patricia Ferns, for those of you who enjoy a song or dance. Let me know if you’re still looking for tickets,
celticquicknews@gmail.com
And Celtic, how hard can it be to put enough paper towels in the toilets? I love the family approach the club has now, but bringing kids means dealing with the toilets, and that’s never a highlight of the trip.
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Proudbhoy
Calvin Miller scored the goal set up byDuffy
joe filippis haircut
12:10 on 18 February, 2015
Big John Guidetti says he might be playing in Italy next season as he still has family there.I think the big guy isnt to keen in staying at Celtic. H.H.
Would be dissapointed to see him go. Really not sure who our forwards will be next season
Alfie.
Aye and the great socialists of the past will be spinning in their graves at the sight of todays socialist (cough) labour mp’s joining the tories in the lobby’s voting in austerity and fear to the working classes, shame on them.
ALFIE NOAKES
Cracking reply at 1134,that really showed us all to be barking up the wrong tree.
Quick point,with a follow-up question.
Point-In early August when it was fashionable to predict the outcome of the referendum,I stated 55-45 No on an 80-85% turnout.
Wish my horsey bets were as accurate….
I also stated that although SNP would lose the referendum vote,they would cement their vote in Scotland,as I reckoned the vast majority of that 45% would decide to vote SNP in future.
Hence the current opinion polls showing pretty similar to my suggestion back then.
Now,if an eejit like me saw that coming,how come Labour in Scotland didnae?
Labour will get hammered in the UK election in Scotland and again next year in Holyrood. And so they should.
They should have left it to the conscience and will of the people,and would still have got the same result.
Now,we are nearly as poisonous in Scotland as the Tories.
Nice one. Result.
The last couple of hours on CQN encapsulate why bloggers of many years standing have given up posting. Why bother engaging with them, thats what they crave. No need to ban or censor anybody ,just do’nt engage. Hail Hail Hebcelt
NegAnon2 – Agreed as I stated above…
Celtic are revising their proposal so we’ll see how that goes when it’s resubmitted. I don’t think this will go away and with cross party support may be approved eventually…
hebcelt
I’m with you buddy!
The Arabic version of Alfie Noakes,
Saudi cleric becomes online laughing stock after telling student the sun rotates around the Earth as otherwise planes would not be able to fly
Sheikh Bandar al-Khaibari claimed Earth is stationary and the sun rotates
Offered religious statements and clerical comments to back up his belief
Also launched into baffling explanation about airliners never being able to reach their destination if the earth was truly moving
Also claimed NASA moon landings are the stuff of Hollywood fabrication
Yep,they are everywhere.
West End of East End
12:17 on
18 February, 2015
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Any time frame?
I would think that if Celtic had a standing area of 2-3000 it would sell out every match..
HEBCELT
Aye,bud. Guilty as charged,but you are correct.
I consider myself telt and reined in.
Thanks-genuinely-for that.
Hebcelt.
Philbhoy
12:20 on
18 February, 2015
hebcelt
I’m with you buddy!
Also me.
hebcelt,
Absolutely spot on my friend, some people can make polite, intelligent arguments and debate accordingly, others are just complete trumpets.
AR
yorkbhoy,
If and when it is passed ,if I were Celtic,I would want at least 5,000,standing area.It would be the first area in the stadium to exceed demand.What a difference that would make to the atmosphere inside the ground.
turkeybhoy
12:21 on 18 February, 2015
The Arabic version of Alfie Noakes,
Saudi cleric becomes online laughing stock after telling student the sun rotates around the Earth as otherwise planes would not be able to fly
Sheikh Bandar al-Khaibari claimed Earth is stationary and the sun rotates
Offered religious statements and clerical comments to back up his belief
Also launched into baffling explanation about airliners never being able to reach their destination if the earth was truly moving
Also claimed NASA moon landings are the stuff of Hollywood fabrication
Yep,they are everywhere.
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He also said Sevco are only 2 players away from matching Celtic… When asked if Sevco were the same club he replied ” I’m not that stupid”
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If Kris Commons is declared fit, does he play?
I would say it’s not worth it if it means budging Johanson out of position.
Let him bust a gut and bring Commons off the bench.
El Mad.
Alfie @ 11.34
I do not hate the Labour Party. If I were to list what I have as my political beliefs I would imagine most of them would be traditional policies of that party and I believe that probably the one Government Britain had since the Second World War which did anything for the Working Class was the Atlee Government of 1945-1951. Probably the only British politicians I have liked have belonged to that party and not such obvious ones like Benn and Foot either but also more right wing figures like Crosland and Healey.
I am saddened that the Labour Party in Britain is in decline. If it wins the General Election in May- it might but it is not looking a sure bet- it will do so with a smaller popular vote than it got when it won before. The Party seems to me to be going the way of the Church- people still follow it and it is influential but the numbers and influence are diminishing. The young people I know – and I know plenty- despise it as they despise all of the mainstream UK wide parties. Labour is seen as a party which has MPs who went to jail for fiddling their expenses, that presided over the widening of the gap between rich and poor and did nothing to address it during the mere 13 years it was in power, a Labour Party which allied itself to the most right wing US government of my lifetime and led us into a war in Iraq on a lie. The suspicion that Labour supported the No campaign so vehemently because it believes that without the usual 40 Scottish seats it would have no real chance of winning a UK wide election is strong also though I would like to think that Ed Milliband and Jim Murphy were more honourable men than that. Alfie this is what people think- I know this because I have spoken to people.
I don’t like the SNP although I have voted for it in the past – usually tactically. I would have always voted in favour of Scottish independence at any stage in the 36 years years in which I would have been entitled to vote but have never liked the party that had that aim as its raison d’etre. I have never truly got whether it was a party of the Left, the Centre or the Right. To dismiss it as many did in the past as ‘Tartan Tories’ was too facile but I struggle now to see it as being a party of even the moderate left. But we have had them for nearly eight years in Holyrood and they have been reasonably efficient if mostly uninspiring in that time. If Scotland had voted ‘Yes’ or we vote in favour of Independence in a referendum in the future we probably will get them as our first government. I do not fear that particularly although I would be nervous and excited about how our country coped with its change. As I said in a discussion with Neganon2 last summer I did not think that Scotland would become either the Utopia claimed by the Nats or the Dystopia claimed by the parties which wished to retain the Union. I dislike being told that in supporting Scottish Independence I am some sort of fool. I have made up my own mind on this.
You replied to an entry I made the other using the quote about ‘For Evil To Flourish’ which sums up what I believe to be the biggest mistake Labour has made and continued to make about both the SNP and those who support Scottish independence. Neither the Nats nor supporters of Independence are evil and to suggest that we are is as offensive as it is stupid. The right to offend and be offended is of course a gimme.
Regarding other matters relating to this board and your contributions (and those of some others) I can only speak for myself but I believe we have nuances in what we think. Labels such as ‘Board/Peter Lawwell haters’ and ‘Green Huns’* are unhelpful I think. I like some of the things our board has done – not going bust for a start- but that mistakes have been made in the summers of 2012 and 2013 when it came to spending money and I believe that Ronny Deila has made mistakes too- and that initially he seemed close to being overawed by the job. I was not sure if RD’s appointment was wise and am still not 100% sure it was – but my God I want him to succeed and become the best manager we have had since Big Jock. Does the above make me a ‘vulture’ as you suggested to a fellow blogger recently? A board hater? A Green Hun?
Have a nice day Alfie but please do not just dismiss everything anybody says as being Labour Haters, SNP Lackies tools or Board Haters. I am neither and those I know from this site personally are not either.
Have a good one and please stop shouting at us as I am sure you are not the angry and intolerant person you seem to be determined to convince us you are.
Jimbo 67
* I believe this latter term has been wrongly applied in recent times as I thought that when it was coined it referred to those who slavishly and sycophantically support every singe thing the club’s leadership do as many Rangers fans did with their club which allowed their club to collapse and die.
turkeybhoy
12:29 on 18 February, 2015
yorkbhoy,
If and when it is passed ,if I were Celtic,I would want at least 5,000,standing area.It would be the first area in the stadium to exceed demand.What a difference that would make to the atmosphere inside the ground.
I would love sections 101-109 to be standing… A new Jungle
hebcelt
12:16 on
18 February, 2015
The last couple of hours on CQN encapsulate why bloggers of many years standing have given up posting. Why bother engaging with them, thats what they crave. No need to ban or censor anybody ,just do’nt engage. Hail Hail Hebcelt
Dont agree.It adds a bit of a laugh to the blog.It gets a bit boring only laughing at the Monkeys.
If any post does not suit your personal tastes,just scroll on bye.Its easy.
“…the man who can take a glass or let it alone is under moral obligation for the sake of his weaker brother who cannot do so, to let it alone.”
Keir Hardie 1895
JIMBO67
I scrolled past that cos you were making too much sense.
It’s good to have you back,bud.
r-mhani
12:12 on 18 February, 2015
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Aye seen that.. was wondering about miller cause havent heard him mentioned in a long time
antipodean red
12:28 on
18 February, 2015
hebcelt,
Absolutely spot on my friend, some people can make polite, intelligent arguments and debate accordingly, others are just complete trumpets.
AR
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aye too many trumpets on here
its about time we root-tooted-them-oot
BMCUWP
Can’t have that happening again- need to go on the drink again so I can come up with some of my more traditional p**h !
Jimbo67
El Madrigal – I don’t think he’ll play Commons, too much of a risk. I think he’ll play players with pace to try and keep a high tempo…
CELTIC MAC
Nope. Drink his pint and give him a glass of lemonade.
JIMBO67
I’m back home in a month. Mibbe a wee night wi our two lasses fae Partick.
Obviously not too much bevvy to be consumed as they really hate drunk men
yorkbhoy
12:33 on
18 February, 2015
turkeybhoy
12:29 on 18 February, 2015
yorkbhoy,
If and when it is passed ,if I were Celtic,I would want at least 5,000,standing area.It would be the first area in the stadium to exceed demand.What a difference that would make to the atmosphere inside the ground.
I would love sections 101-109 to be standing… A new Jungle
I agree.It would transform Celtic Park.I am 100% convinced PL knows this,and we WILL pursue this.
BMCUWP
Aye it would be good to see them again. ( Notice I said them and no you!)
Jimbo67
bawsman
12:11 on 18 February, 2015
Fair point
Bawsman – No sorry, no idea when it will be…
new article posted.
Oi BMCUWP, we have nothing against drunk men! Jimbo67 it would lovely to see you again and bring that reprobate with you if you have to. I’m sorry you haven’t been feeling well and i’m glad you’re on the mend. Look forward to catching up with you both and Ayrshire Tim too?
Oh dear,seems some of the public morals brigade are a tad unhappy at some of the posts.
They are probably right.Lets get back to what most of them do very well.Slaughter players having a wee bad spell.Constantly whinge about the “Bored”.Tell the manager he is picking the wrong team.Pick on certain players and make them whipping boys for periods..
After all,the rest of the blogs do this,why is this one different?.
Turkeybhoy
Totally agree. An area holding 5000 would be sold otu easily every game. It would give a few younger generations a chance to experience what many on here did with the old jungle.
I watch the Bundesliga every week and terracings are a pre-requisite, a fundamental in creating atmosphere for the rest of the stadium, not just that particular standing area. It makes for the German league having the best atmosphere in Europe, not England for all their capacity crowds, wealth and super stadiums. A game between eg Mainz and Freiburg will have a better atmosphere than Man U v Spurs.
The team must surely benefit, and your correct, PL knows this.
Senga
I am looking forward to seeing you. I’ll be sober- aiming to go right through to June without a drink although I get a dispensation if we win the Treble!
Jimbo67
Ah Alfie, Alfie. I wish I could say that you “used to be a Hun, but you’re alright now”, but I think that you just don’t want to see what is in front of your eyes.
The Labour Party of today bears no relation to the Labour Party I grew up with. It doesn’t have an ideology any more, and by that I mean something that it stands for. The Labour-Tory choice is more about which form of free market liberalism you want, Free-market light or full strength. The choice is about management, not changing anything.
If someone arrived from a different country and asked about the policies and attitudes of all the main parties, Labour would be in the political middle, with the SNP towards the left. What Labour did 100 years ago is as relevant as what Rangers did 10 years ago, they are not the same animals.
I would love Labour to be different, but it’s not. The same is true about majority opinion in the UK, I don’t particularly want to opt out of the UK, but, as in a bad marriage, you sometimes just have to say “you’ve changed”, which rUK obviously has (that David Cameron can suggest cutting of benefits to the obese – 1/3 of the adult population, and there be no murmur of protest, is astonishing). Independence will come, and it won’t be perfect, and it will delight and disappoint, but it’s still the right thing to do.
jimbo67
12:31 on
18 February, 2015
——————————————————————————————————————–You say ” I believe that probably the one Government Britain had since the Second World War which did anything for the Working Class”
Are you seriously telling me that all the social advances in the lives of the working class and the poorest in society, that have been fought for and won by Labour, and ONLY Labour, happened between 1945 & 1951?
You say – “MPs who went to jail for fiddling their expenses”
Every party in the UK had some people who belonged to that party who committed wrongdoings – EVERY PARTY
You say – (of the SNP) But we have had them for nearly eight years in Holyrood and they have been reasonably efficient if mostly uninspiring in that time.
They have had nothing to do other than spend money that they were not responsible for raising and have crippled local government, who do raise some of their own money, by imposing from Edinburgh, a Council Tax Double Whammy freeze for eight years, that benefits everybody but the working poor and degrades services for the young, old, disabled and poorest.
You say – Labels such as ‘Board/Peter Lawwell haters’ and ‘Green Huns’* are unhelpful I think.
I did not coin the term ‘Green Huns’, but I did use in once – however it pales into insignificance when compared to the vitriol directed at me – all because my view differs from the clique on here, This clique is representative of tiny fraction of the grest Celtic support, of whom I am proud to be called one.
What else would you call people who come on here and spew their bile over Peter Lawwell and members of the board? Haters seems a moderate term to use, in my opinion.
You say – “but that mistakes have been made in the summers of 2012 and 2013 when it came to spending money and I believe that Ronny Deila has made mistakes too”