Paulo Bernardo’s signature on a loan-to-buy-option concluded Celtic’s business last night. It follows the same scouting, recruitment and commercial path established with Jota two years earlier.
At 21, he is bang on plan. If Celtic are to make a significant leap forward, we will not do it with mid-20s honest pros. Talent needs to be on the cusp of maturity, with world-class development added.
It would be an interesting move to start Paulo tomorrow, but a place on the bench isn’t out of the equation.
Welcome to Celtic, Paulo.
I’m seldom confident ahead of Ibrox and tomorrow is no different. The game is perhaps a few weeks early for us. Still, we have a manager and squad that know how to win there. Nothing to lose, Celtic.
Round up on the window next week.
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Panic ye not about tomorrow’s game.
We will win, cos it’s my birthday, and we don’t lose on my birthday
KINGLuBO
John O’Hara was a wine and spirit merchant who was elected onto the Celtic board in 1897 in the Annfield Hall, off the Gallowgate.
He served on the board until his death in 1905. * Mr O’Hara owned a pub at 140 London Road, he had his owned blend of Scotch Whisky called the “Royal Shield”. His son John jun. took over the business in 1903, he then acquired the Clyde Vaults, Nuneaton Street and 45 Norfolk Street.
We’ll thrash the hun tomorrow. By half time their raggedy arsed scarecrow scum shall be brawling on Paisley Road. And that’s just the women.
Kinglubo
Never lost on my birthday either – well it’s in the close season
Evan Williams had a pub in Jamestown, Alexandria. 1973.
Kinglubo
Happy birthday ya 87 year old git. 👍🍺😂
Broonie having a tough start this season – still without a win despite taking an eary lead- Lawal started today.
Chairbhoy, you speak too much sense.
But it’s wasted on here.
But I expect that you already know that.
St Tams
Who asked you anyway?🤔
SAINT STIVS on 2ND SEPTEMBER 2023 7:43 PM
Evan Williams had a pub in Jamestown, Alexandria. 1973.
gave it up when the pub got into debt . He kept dropping glasses .))
I’ll get ma coat .
Ta for burdie wished bhoyz
Fear ye not
Happy bday kinglubo
Chairbhoy
“Out of Ange’s team that made the great leap forward, we have lost
Juranovic, Giakoumakis, Jenz, Starfelt, Jota, Mooy”
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We lost and replaced Juranovic last year.(surprisingly this wasn’t a downturn)
Giakoumakkis was replaced by Oh (so far this has proven to be a downgrade but, it is the back up striker)
Jenz- we had on loan and let him go. I don’t know why but Ange does.
Starfelt was playing with a club of a similar size to Nawrocki but he was older. His provenance as oven ready was severely doubted as he was behind Helander in the Swedish International CB rankings. When he came to us he had 3 more caps than Lagerbielke has. Apart from age- I’m struggling to see a vast difference.
Jota was a Benfica project- they were prepared to let him go for £6m. If he had been a strong first team contender and needed . they would have been asking £20m +. We got a steal there on a young player- I wish we could have kept him but we made a great profit on him as we helped him become a player Benfica might regret valuing so lowly.
Mooy- ex- St. Mirren & Huddersfield- then playing wind down in China, was greeted with no enthusiasm at all when he came. He was touted, by most of the people bemoaning his loss today, as an injury prone, rarely-to-be-seen squad member, a panic buy and a potential waste of money. He ended up playing 29 times in our season and was great in calming down a young over-excitable team. He is now unable to safely play football and his career profile could have been replaced this year by bringing back Tom Rogic, but I doubt anyone thinks that is a good idea,
Ange’s team was a young team- as most of his signings were. The exceptions were Joe Hart who is now apparently needing replacing, Starfelt (just turned 26) and Kyogo (26). And 3 misfits- Ideguchi (25) and McCarthy (30) and Siegrist (30) and you see the buy experience route can also be flawed.
The rest- Abada, O’Riley, Scales, Shaw, Urogahide, Kenny, Jota, CCV, , Bernabei, Oh, Haksabanovic, Kobayashi and Jenz were 23 and under. Maeda and Hatate were 24 but young in football experience, given their university requirements. Al Johnston was 24 too but again, only 2 years of MSL behind him.
This year Brendan has brought in 8 players in the 21-23 range, with the completed signing of Iwata and the loan for Phillips being the only ones over that range.
But those young boys that Ange bought are one or two seasons older now and are not the novices needing nursing that they were under Ange so Brendan’s need to add a sprinkling of experience is less than was the case when Ange came in. He has Hart, CCV, McGregor and Kyogo as a very experienced spine to his side. As I said- it is the injuries rather than the signing options which weaken our chances tomorrow. If we didn’t have to use a rookie CB pairing, I would be more worried but the bench players do not worry me. They will come good in time, one or two of them might even show that tomorrow.
5 of the Lisbon Lions were 23 and under back in May 67. Only 2 were over 30.
5 of the Lisbon Lions were 23 and under
intrigued, who was the youngest lion then ?
SFTB
Faither and Stevie?
Should read:-
If we didn’t have to use a rookie CB pairing, I would be less worried
St Stivs
Jim Craig?
Jackiemac – its a great wee word isnt it.
Qarm….
D :)
i actually have never came across the team ages actually, i kinf oknow but 5 under 23s is just incredible
Any learned CQN’ers watched TRIANGLE OF SADNESS -it’s a bit out of my comfort zone but I’m enjoying it. However, there’s serious satire ship I don’t quite get. If you lovehate your oligarchs, this the filum for you.
#we’llwincsc
Goodnight all
Good luck ,Brendan and your Bhoys at the hate factory tomorrow.
I’m feelin it d66❤
I see Sead has gone on loan to Stoke – if I bump into him I’ll say hi from CQN
Up the Vale
ST TAMS @ 7:54 PM,
Well, who wants to be preaching to the converted:)
Though when this site had a kaleidoscope of opinions, from the happy clappers* to the mineshafters all everything in between it made better reading in my humble opinion.
Still, we are where we are
Have a grand one.
Hail Hail
*used to be one of those
Hail Hail
The answers are on CQN
https://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/exploding-the-lisbon-myth/
Good evening all from Heraghtys. Mobbed as usual on a Saturday night. Great to be a Tim. Win, draw or whatever, I’ll still be out next week celebrating. Lurking hun canutes, that’s something you will NEVER do.
Who would have guessed Bobby Murdoch was the project in that team?
I think jinky might be youngest, although Bobby murdoch also young.
Jim Craig being qualified as a dentist might make him a year or so older than we might think
That Jock Stein inherited a team of senior pros and broke it up.
We lost the influence of Jim Kennedy and Dunky McKay, Willie Fernie, Pat Crerand, Johnny Divers and Frank Brogan (it’s alright, I know Jock was not responsible for half of them going)
Ffs never knew it was Bobby. And I thought I knew my history. Dumpling. 🤪
bobbymurdochscurledupwinklepickers : now that’s a moniker ahead of its time!
Nice summary SFTB we have also spent money upgrading extended contract wages to keep talent in the squad Kyogo Maeda Abada etc. We trade up, to pay comparable wages for our top players to keep them so why all the moaning. It doesn’t come out of the season ticket money or from winning the sphell. What did the board ever do for us anyway. This squad will come right tomorrow and the ipox zombies will turn on their own journeymen after our first goal.
Jackiemac
Wonder if Mick G is looking in? 😂
👌 brrb
Don’t know if the Moravcik 67 link to extwitter
(See whit I did there🤣) opened so …
Here goes nothing …the block is me and not moravcik67
Moravcik67
1. Euro squad stuff.
Celtic have until 11pm on Monday night to submit our squad list for the CL group stage.
Normally it’s pretty straightforward. But this year we have some decisions to make, and a lot will depend on the injury situation with certain players.
2. Of our 25 man squad, 8 have to be homegrown – trained at a Scottish club. At least 4 of the 8 have to Celtic-trained. More on that later.
That leaves us with 17 places for anyone who doesn’t fall into the homegrown category. We currently have 23 such players on our books.
3. That means 6 of our first team players can’t be included in our CL squad.
As said, injuries will play a big part in who we register. How quickly we think the likes of CCV, Nawrocki, etc, will be able to contribute in the CL will determine if they’re in the squad or not.
4. Who we register might also give us an indication of where we think certain players are with their injury.
If we do include players who are currently out then it probably means we do think they’ll be able to contribute to our CL campaign at some point.
5. I mean it could mean we’re really confident of reaching the knockout stage without them, and want to keep the 3 new registrations we’re allowed for the Last 16 for any new January signings.
But that doesn’t really seem likely, does it?
6. We also have to consider our homegrown players.
Celtic trained – McGregor, Forrest, Ralston, Welsh, M. Johnston
Scottish trained – Bain, Taylor, Turnbull, McCarthy
We can select 8 of these players. If Welsh is long term then they kind of pick themselves.
7. That list of homegrown players isn’t the most awe inspiring.
But the spaces are there to be used, so we may as well use them – even if it’s with guys who are unlikely to feature much, if at all.
We can also register any number of youngsters like Vata and Murray on List B.
8. UEFA are waiting on the outcome of a court case brought by Antwerp relating to the homegrown rules. So it could be that we’ll have new rules before long.
But if this type of squad restriction does stay, in whatever form, we need to get better at making the best of it.
9. Attached is our 1st team squad. I’ve assumed Ajeti has left. And yeh, some players can play different positions.
Homegrown players are in green (Celtic trained) and blue (Scottish trained).
Of the other 23 players, only 17 can be registered.
the list won’t copy over and my I.T. expert is out , so sorry about that . Anyhoo the players we have are discussed about enough on here so youse will all know who , where trained and when 🤣🤣😜
What 6 players do we leave out?
10. Based on replies so far, there’s something of a concensus to leave out
Siegrest
Scales
Kobayashi
Kwon
Tillio
Iwata
I’d be surprised if we leave Siegrest out, as it would mean our third keeper would be a youngster on List B. Not sure we’d take that risk.
11. Also worth noting that to be on List B a player has to have been born on/after 1st January 2002, and been with Celtic for 2 years. So while guys like Holm and Yang are young enough, they haven’t been with us for long enough to go on List B.
SFtBs @ 8:03 PM,
Let’s establish a timeline, I’m really talking from when Ange came in and had the transfer window with Dominic McKay to the end of our UCL European campaign last year
That’s in line with Ange’s speech at the AGM where he outlined his vision to take the team forward.
Of course that was November and by January this year the downsizing had started again
So we lost and replaced Juranovic this year.
We lost Giakoumakis in that window and as you said replaced him with a prospect
Now I like Oh, great lad, lots of potential
But let’s get real, who would you rather was starting up front for us tomorrow?
The bhoy Oh, who is bang on plan or the old pro Gia?
Now replacing Starfelt with Nawrocki is fine in my book, yet Ange showed us the way to do that.
He had AJ in and bedded in before Jura left
The reason we let Jenz go was financial, we had him on loan with an option to buy, a good mid twenties Pro – Yet Mercedes wasn’t bang on plan!!
We saved wages and his transfer fee – see what I mean? Follow the money
Brendan has made it clear he didn’t bring those eight players in, he knew of Nawrocki and could well have used his connections to secure the short term loan of Nat but that’s it
The rest were given to him to develop
5 of the Lisbon Lions were 23 and under back in May 67. Only 2 were over 30.
Do you know Celtic ran three teams when Jock came in, the first team, reserves and Celtic thirds
He assessed all the players and streamed it down to two teams.
Famously Jinky was out in the cold and Jock rehabilitated his career with staggering results
He assembled his first choice players into a team and then brought in a few top quality players.
Jock was famous for the way he put a team together, the mix, stronger than the sum of it’s parts
But always experience, always quality
Look how he handled Dalglishes’ development
A master of his art, unsurpassed.
Hail Hail
Come On You Bhoys in Green.
D :)