Scottish football has gone through months of drama and uncertainty to rescue ‘Rangers’. Only weeks ago we were told a CVA was likely. Once this failed the question of today’s SPL vote crystallised.
The SPL met several times to discuss this matter, even doing so before Rangers CVA failed. Sentiment was firmly behind Newco, to the extent that some were worried they would be allowed into the league without any sanction (if one Ayrshire club had their way). All this changed when Charles Green and Duff and Phelps agreed to challenge the SFA at the Court of Session. At the SPL meeting following this decision the mood changed dramatically.
I then had several friends in the media rubbish my suggestion that Newco were far from certain of being voted into the SPL. To be fair to them, my information was not coming from Neil Doncaster, whereas theirs was. If Doncaster was so assured when speaking to the media, day after day, we can only imagine what he was saying to Green. His influence has not been helpful to the cause he championed.
Clubs, who were previously weighing up the argument, suddenly had a convincing point to consider. Rangers going to court was the biggest own goal in their 140 year history. Terry Butcher, eat your heart out.
After this Green was at the mercy of fortune, and the growing influence of the hawk(s) in the SPL who saw no need to create space for Newco. In many respects, John Brown is correct. Having gambled and failed, Green did whatever he could to accommodate but there was no way back. Underestimate John Brown at your peril, he has his club’s interests at heart and has the fortitude to raise a phoenix from the ruins of Ibrox. His unconventional style is easy to mock but it is just what needed (I truly believe this).
Where now for the Newco-Sevco-Rangers? I don’t see a solution. Sooner or later Mr Green will let his friends know they only way forward is for him to acquire an existing Scottish Football League club, rename it to something like Rangers United, and move it to Ibrox.
The toxic history would be set free and it would be game-on. Keep your eye on Cowdenbeath.
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Now don’t laugh but…
If I were a decent RFCIA supporter (and I know many) I would be apoplectic about the slur and be demanding his immediate removal from office.
In effect he is saying because Im a RFCIA supporter I will be a law breaker (I know, I know).
Here is a subject which will unite fans everywhere lol
Old hippies like me have ever been obsessed with Tolkien, a devout and righteous man of the one true faith by the way.
One of the things I failed to get about the Lord of the Rings, first time round, was the central irony that in defeating the Enemy by destroying his Ring, the forces of light, and their own rings, would also diminish and pass on.
Interconnectedness, you see.
I was thinking that as I drove home tonight from work listening to Stewart Cosgrove ripping James Traynor a new one.
In being satisfied that the Hun has met a just and fair demise, thus far, was I also seeing the beginning of the end for us? Hiuns, orcs, Us , elves. You get the drift.
I have to say, though, that it still felt damn good.
Good riddance.
Good enough for them.
Good for the SPL chairmen who found their courage hiding down the back of the settee when we all, admit it, still feared there was a Houdini like escape for the baddies still to emerge.
To further belabour the Tolkien motif, I feel like Theoden on the Pelennor:
‘ A grim morn, and a glad day, and a golden sunset’
Bye bye Huns.
You know what ?
Celtic’s statement tonight said this is in the hands of the SFA and not the SFL. If this is what that means I am against it utterly.
So to clarify, I renew my vow NEVER to attend a match in any SPL 2 setup or whatever such an invention calls itself.
Another rigged deck.
enmac, a bampot stands shoulder to shoulder with Neil Lennon on 4 July, 2012 at 19:08 said:
Paul,
Been on e twitter feed, and read one you retweeted. Said Celtic fans go out and buy a season ticket. go get one, back your club.
Given we all want a just,honest,clean,competitive game, that message shoud go out to all fans, of all clubs, and I sincerely hope they take up the challenge.
Can you imagine large crowds at every league match, at every club?
Should that not be the focus and the starting point for the football associations of this country?
Providing we sort out the leaders of our game, then league reconstruction, who knows. Maybe we might just have a game to relish and be proud of. A fine sentiment mate,hopefully it will happen.
Sometimes I wonder if poor Charles Green should be alound out.
Nearly every disaster has meant the statement “we were led to believe” being trotted out as some kind of excuse for what was glaringly obvious to all with the slightest intelligence and knowledge of what has been transpiring over the last number of months.
Would love to record him and the now seriously tarnished Regan discussing the best way forward for our society and national game. Road crash TV indeed.
Larsson and McStay on 4 July, 2012 at 22:38 said:
Ex – Hun phoned Talksport today and immediately said ” no problems in Div 3 ,if we played in the street there would be 50,000 on the pavement” less than 30 seconds later , same caller tells us the at least “15,000 would be there every week in Div 3 ,and at least 30,000 in Div 1…….”
This is the type of zoomer that Bomber brown is relying on?
I’m happy with today’ events.
Two things mattered to me:-
1) That they were blocked in their attempt to get into the SPL.
2) That Celtic voted NO.
The game in Scotland is shot to bits, it’s in tatters, as highlighted by the chairman of Raith Rovers, the 2 statements from Clyde FC and the continual ineptness and mismanagement of Regan and Doncaster.
The restructuring is going to take time and shouldn’t be rushed, it won’t happen overnight and if the last few weeks have emphasised anything, it’s that the game must take into account the views and opinions of supporters.
Banished forever or division 3 would be the cherry on the cake but for now I’m more than content with developments.
Just poppin in with one comment before bed
This is getting farcical. “social unrest”? Is Regan some sort of Social Engineer now? What does he think will happen? Clumps of orange-clad bigots waddling through the streets spewing sectarian bile? Letter-bombs and bullets through the post. Does he even believe our manager could be assaulted during a game, and the perpetrator walk free. Or maybe he thinks that Celtic supporters will get their throat cut at Brigton cross.
This whole saga has gone beyond surreal.
04/07/12 A battle won.
But the war is clearly far from over, they are regrouping.
Paul67
How about the various Supporters Associations getting together?
1) They convene a special meeting of all SPL and SFL supporter associations.
2) they ballot their members on the removal of Reneging, Doomcaster, Longshanks and Ogilvie.
3) They take those findings to the clubs with a warning of targeted boycott/strike action unless the bampots are removed.
Anybody seen the thread on FF discussing the relationship between the discovery of thr god particle and sevco getting its baws toed ? The langauge was shocking
HH
bournesouprecipe on 4 July, 2012 at 22:52 said:
They were always going to go kicking and screaming but go they will and they will look on today as a good day!!
Let loose the Horsemen!!
Neveralone
They are
Och I miss the old incubator…
Graham Spiers @GrahamSpiers
I know it’s an unfashionable view, and will tip the Celtic hardcore over the edge…but this Bill Miller incubator-plan could work. #rangers
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 4 July, 2012 at 22:54 said:
so shocking that you had to read another page ?
if I want to read Hun on Hun anger the msm do the job for me.
That Cowdenbeath statement is a cracker, Chairman Donald Findlay “it is clear to me that people… have tried to hold a gun to my head …. I have a long memory and will not forget what they tried to do and the way they tried to bend me, and this Club, to their will”
I can’t imagine who he is aiming that at…
For their board to issue that statement and to then wheel him out to issue the statement must really have been a kick in the knackers for everyone’s favourite QC
Hey bhoys i eventuallly got home from Palma lol
HH
Glad to see the mood calming down now.
Today was a small but important victory but the bigger battle awaits.
There will be a few twists and turns in our emotions and a few more pieces of lighthouse thinking and sudden mood changes.
Thank whatever combination of fan pressure and Board response that kept us on the right side of the meltdown equation.
Jmcormick,
Morbid curiosity. Guilty.
Never again.
HH
jmccormick
I was only in the car for about 10 mins this afternoon and I actually heard that moron , with his 50,000 on the pavements nonsense, on TS.
He must have been mixing football and the marching season up….
Incidentally , when they do those fancy dress parades this month , does anyone think the guys who dress up in their Hector the Taxman outfits might get booed….or worse…
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 4 July, 2012 at 22:54 said:
Anybody seen the thread on FF discussing the relationship between the discovery of thr god particle and sevco getting its baws toed ? The langauge was shocking
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Now know what people mean when they spit something out over their keyboard!!!
Disgusting that the newspaper ‘pulled’ the Ragen statement….
…….however, I think he is right. He shouldn’t have said it as part of a statement to influence the SFL. In fact, he should’nt be trying to influence them at all. The SFL chairmen are perfectly capable of assessing / adjudicating on the situation, as were the SPL chairmen…….dangerous strategy altogether……
……..but, again, he is right……we are dealing here with very dangerous elements within our society……we all know that…
Anyway, I’ve been reading back and I share the joy of every Celtic supporter in the World ……..We have been shafted for years and, hopefully now, we can enjoy a day out at the football, as can EVERY other Scottish team supporter …….I will also be attending games at Hampden now…..been boycotting them for 20 odd years …… LOL
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 4 July, 2012 at 23:00 said:
Cheers , it`s been a long day …..think a wee drink, couple of Jungle Book tunes then sleeps for me.
Big battles ahead for our club.
Hail! Hail!
Been away from t-internet and home for the last few days. Was in a meeting earlier down south with a few chaps who looked a tad surprised when I got a text message, punched the air, and carried on with a huge grin on my face.
Only read Paul’s lead and the last few pages.
Paul67, well done Sir.
P.s. Using regan’s analogy, if we offered a counter-riot, if, say, we didn’t get to the Scottish Cup Final this season, would it mean we should get a bye – would save playing a few useless games.
Ghood Night & Ghod Bless.
HH
A not so bold prediction:
in the (unlikely) event Hunco get a SFL slot – we are bound to draw them in Cup competition in year 1..?
I also support Kevtic: rugby park in April was an experience that I will never forget. Me, morarghirl and morarjhunior would never have got tickets for the party in normal circumstances. A day comparable with most in our history.
On an unrelated theme, I notice that George Osborne and David Cameron are developing serious man boobs. Well merry, signing off from my trip to Greenwich.
Walshy on 4 July, 2012 at 22:58 said:
That Cowdenbeath statement is a cracker, Chairman Donald Findlay “it is clear to me that people… have tried to hold a gun to my head …. I have a long memory and will not forget what they tried to do and the way they tried to bend me, and this Club, to their will”
I can’t imagine who he is aiming that at…
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Eh, remember the hun who was murdered/tripped going down the stairs at IBrokes from NORN IRN…
Who Shot Taking A Liberty Valance?
celticrollercoaster, 22:34
It’s in that post – the bank pressed 5 clubs until Thomson got wind of it and put it on twitter.
Regan and Doncaster rang them months ago
They just dont do irony on deadclubmedia :))))
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Posted Today, 08:21 PM
A fantastic achievement to win the league before a ball is kicked. Wonder what their crowds will be like this season. Lot of empty seats I would say
Where’s oor Delia? Busy writing press releases? Should Sevco gate share in Div 3? I think we need a debate on this…
I think if Green ends up in Div 3 he’ll sell the lot to Tesco or whoever because he chance of a quick buck is fading.
Sad because it will stop my faviourate song “If I had the wings of a sparrow……………”
Just back on blog as was on hol till today (should have been home yesterday but On The Beach messed up transfer and got stranded in Palma and had to sort flight, hotel and taxis and food by myself (£800 later!!!!!!!!! with no help from OTB) eventually got home tonight
HH
FC Sion refuse to pay a penny for Kyle Lafferty. “It’s not a legal or moral issue”, said a spokesman, “he’s just pish…”
!!Bada Bing!! on 4 July, 2012 at 23:08 said:
FC Sion refuse to pay a penny for Kyle Lafferty. “It’s not a legal or moral issue”, said a spokesman, “he’s just pish…”
Brilliant
Arty @ 22:18
And on that note I give you
Moonbeams WD. Kano 1000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. Champions. C’mon Wee Oscar. on 4 July, 2012 at 12:28 said:
Date: 25th May 2067
Young Sammy resplendent in Green & White, not just any Green & White, but Glasgow’s Green & White, jumps up on his Old Granpa’s knee. Turning to his Granpa Billy the young lad smiles that smile that only Granpa’s get to see and says “Granpa. Can you tell me that story again? The one about that football team you supported in the olden days. What happened to them Granpa?”. Granpa Billy smiling through gritted teeth at wee Sammy bellows “aye son, they wurra days . The Glesga Rangers. We wurra People.” Wee Sammy seeing a tinge of sadness in his Granpa’s eyes turns to ole Billy and gives him a big hug. “Granpa” he says “Who are the people now?” Ole Billy looks at him, tears welling in his eyes. “Is it The Green Brigade?” asks wee Sammy. “I’m going to be junior Capo one day Granpa.” Granpa Billy turns to look at wee Sammy. Smiles at him and says “Oh that sounds fun Sammy.” All the while, hidden from his grandson, the adrenalin and anger rushes through ole Billy’s veins. “Sammy” he says. “Granpa’s going to have to go to the toilet”. Putting wee Sammy down he runs across the room, out the door, along the hall storming through the toilet door slamming it shut behind him. Getting to the toilet just in time he spews down the lavy. Just as he’s half way through his spew his guts begin to rumble and churn. Ole Billy realising his predicament grabs the bin, drops his trouser and sits down as both ends explode like Mount Visuvius in 79 AD. Thirty minutes later Granpa Billy walks back into his living room. Wee Sammy runs across the room grasping at ole Billy’s legs. “Are you ok Granpa.” he says hugging him tightly. “I’m fine son. I’m fine.” says Granpa. Cursing under his breath Granpa mutters to himself. “******* Celtic. ******* Green Brigade.”
Bundoran
Glad that you got home safe and that yer no’ moanin’ about it!!!! :-)))
I am so battle weary, guys, I am simply dropping the armour on the floor as I plod upstairs. The wife isn’t complaining about the mess but she has politely asked me to keep the b***y noise down. If only Merlin were around to polish it all for the war tomorrow.
Goodnight my friends and here’s to one and all for today!
H H
Bada
:-)