Scottish football has gone through months of drama and uncertainty to rescue ‘Rangers’. Only weeks ago we were told a CVA was likely. Once this failed the question of today’s SPL vote crystallised.
The SPL met several times to discuss this matter, even doing so before Rangers CVA failed. Sentiment was firmly behind Newco, to the extent that some were worried they would be allowed into the league without any sanction (if one Ayrshire club had their way). All this changed when Charles Green and Duff and Phelps agreed to challenge the SFA at the Court of Session. At the SPL meeting following this decision the mood changed dramatically.
I then had several friends in the media rubbish my suggestion that Newco were far from certain of being voted into the SPL. To be fair to them, my information was not coming from Neil Doncaster, whereas theirs was. If Doncaster was so assured when speaking to the media, day after day, we can only imagine what he was saying to Green. His influence has not been helpful to the cause he championed.
Clubs, who were previously weighing up the argument, suddenly had a convincing point to consider. Rangers going to court was the biggest own goal in their 140 year history. Terry Butcher, eat your heart out.
After this Green was at the mercy of fortune, and the growing influence of the hawk(s) in the SPL who saw no need to create space for Newco. In many respects, John Brown is correct. Having gambled and failed, Green did whatever he could to accommodate but there was no way back. Underestimate John Brown at your peril, he has his club’s interests at heart and has the fortitude to raise a phoenix from the ruins of Ibrox. His unconventional style is easy to mock but it is just what needed (I truly believe this).
Where now for the Newco-Sevco-Rangers? I don’t see a solution. Sooner or later Mr Green will let his friends know they only way forward is for him to acquire an existing Scottish Football League club, rename it to something like Rangers United, and move it to Ibrox.
The toxic history would be set free and it would be game-on. Keep your eye on Cowdenbeath.
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hamiltontim on 4 July, 2012 at 23:10 said:
Thats starts tonight with complaint to OTB and ABTA lol
HH
Last time HOOPS were at killie
ENJOY:))))))))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5f54_RUqf0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dIzMjmP4Yk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dIzMjmP4Yk
Good night all HAIL HAIL
miki67 on 4 July, 2012 at 22:34 said:
Ipox is now just Bricks, when it used to be Bricks and …..
Just waiting for the scavengers to steal in and take everything … can just see the headline…
“Todays the day the Teddy Bears had their pitch nicked ”
Cardigan for Larrybhoy
Bundoran Bhoy – RAISING AWARENESS OF NEUROBLASTOMA (GOD BLESS WEE OSCAR) on 4 July, 2012 at 23:07,
Who is this OTB?
Should we boycott them??
Does nobody get it? Rangers aren’t banished or sanctioned or anything, they are to be liquidated, i.e no more. A company called Sevco 5088 Ltd has purchased the assets of the now liquidated Rangers (alledgedly).They have no registered players and no league. There will be no professional football team playing in govan for at least 3 years, simple. Good Celtic Family, stop worrying over a nonentity.
1 Rangers are liquidated/gone/finished
2.They are no longer the peeepul
3 Tá ár lá linn
4 GIRUY you hun barstewards that bullied my 70’s childhood
5, My wife from Ireland just doesn’t get how much this means to us Scots from Irish descent.
6. I’m going to get pished at the Stone Roses tmw night and re-live my Uni days
7, Hail Hail to all the Celtic Family
8. Philvis (thumbs up)
Great day on CQN, Hail Hail one and all…
Regan never came up with this statement of his own accord.
He has been groomed by Campbell Ogilvie who has convinced/frightened him with predictions of civic chaos if the poor we things are censured.
No wonder sanctions for sectarian/racist singing behaviour is never forthcoming for The People.
CaltonTongues on 4 July, 2012 at 23:14 said:
On The Beach (but late for flight) lol
n YESSSSSS
HH
You know things are bad when the former rangers vice chairman is against newco in division one!
After Regans and Doncasters comments today, it’s time to leave guys.
HH – what a tremendous day!
so let me get this right, the idiot goes to the sfl clubs and stresses that either newco go into the first division or they will start up an spl 2 and bannish all who vote no. where do they get the teams to fill spl 2, if its a ten team league thats 8 clubs that are needed from scotland and the only clubs that could meet the criteria i.e. stadium etc… are the clubs you just threatened. seriously is that the master plan, oh and it all has to be complete in the space of two weeks before the start of the spl.
meanwhile fans up and down the country are demanding that newco begin in the 3rd division and i dont see that changing over the coming week, because unlike that idiot, fans know you dont buy your right to play in the highest league, you earn it on the football pitch.
to be honest i will be gutted if this stuff about an spl 2 becomes a reality because it goes against the principles and ethos that underpin sporting excellence.
Bundoran Bhoy – RAISING AWARENESS OF NEUROBLASTOMA (GOD BLESS WEE OSCAR) on 4 July, 2012 at 23:18 said:
No problem mucker, I’m going no where :-)))
If the Kilmarnock fans asked their Board to vote NO, and their Board ignored them, we should not Bhoycott their games……we should leave their fans to sort this out…..
Alex Thomson is due some degree of credit for his steadfast ,honest and fearless reporting of the Huns
He has refused to be one a Tim cheerleader which, IMO has allowed his credibility to remain intact ( against the Hun hordes who would decry him )
I think after tonight’s revelation , we’ll definitely see resignations from Ogilvie and Regan in the morning .
How can they be taken seriously when they preside over a national institution that has Sandy Jardine as a Hall of Famer…
phil on radio in ireland
correction from before – off the ball, part 3 at 35mins – sorry
http://media.newstalk.ie/listenbacks/popup
Paul 67
We have to push for the emoval of the muppets at the top
Reneging Doomcaster (then perhaps the SFL can go for Longshanks)
Paul67,
You say “Cowdenbeath”, I say keep your eye on a venue some 20 miles due southwest of castle greyskull.
Huns buy Cowdenbeath
So what ,their history dies ……that ghents is my greatest wish
No more of that five stars BS , greatest team in the world cack
We can all call them Cowdenbeath ….
Whats the latest on wee Oscar?
Tonight’s Sportsound on website now.
Granny Mac’s Bhoy-Sorry mate,been scrolling back,will ask for your bus.HH.
Jock Stein started their demise, this was confirmation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rQ96X9ekag&feature=related
I wonder who the first Club will be to have a sales blitz on Parent-Child ,family friendly Season Tickets.
….PFayr on 4 July, 23:21
Absolutely.
He has no love for Celtic and no dislike of Rangers so he is untainted. He’s a real journalist
2 bhuns came into the health club tonight wearing their tainted RIL strips …….. I started whistling ‘a merry tune’ …….night all….head nipping reading all the posts….
It’s been a long battle by the ‘Internet bampots’ …….. Now what next
FTT……………….?
Double contracts…..?
Ah…..decisions……!!!!!
Larsson and McStay on 4 July, 2012
How can they be taken seriously when they preside over a national
institution that has Sandy Jardine as a Hall of Famer…
_________________!
From what I heard tweeted from the rfff meeting tonight, willie puller jardine wants to remove himself from the sfa hall of fame!
Ha ha
And if rest true, sally said he would think about it
Great day – psychologically a hammer blow has been struck.
As others have posted, I can’t see for the life of me how Doncaster and Regan can survive this debacle. I can see that it might be tricky getting rid of Regan – but we need to seriously ask who Doncaster is representing.
If it’s himself or Sevco then he should have cleared his desk today. If his actions represent the wishes of the SPL chairmen in pressurising the SFL then we still have a major problem.
Bit more fan pressure needed?
P.s. I like the idea of adopting a “wee team” for a year or two. Buying a shirt or joining a membership scheme could be an idea.
So Sandy, have you asked to be removed from the hall of fame as a protest against the SFA?
Eh, naw. It’s because ahm pish.
And Minty is still not mentioned as a cause of the apocalypse..
Strange
HH
Life is good again.
Just listened to da bomber on SSB.
He is just nuts, aggressive, incoherent, illogical………
I like him a lot.
pigalle
67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!!..Truth and Justice HAS prevailed on 4 July, 2012 at 23:20 said:
Or ask their fans what we should do to help. Imagine – we boycott a game at their ground at the request of Killie supporters clubs. Just once. Just to send a message to their board (they’ve been boycotting Parkhead for years).
S
Roddy Forsyth article in the Telegraph suggests that no-one inside or outside the Green Group knows who is a loyalist and who is a traitor.
“By Roddy Forsyth
11:00PM BST 04 Jul 2012
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The expectation beforehand within the SPL – shared by the Scottish Football Association – was that the outcome would be another deferral, leaving it to the Scottish Football League clubs to accept Rangers into their ranks and sparing the top division chairmen from a decision they did not want to make.
There were also some who hoped that Rangers would be able to make sufficient case – coupled with a clear and evident change of attitude – for their admission to the SPL.
However – and not for the first time in this saga – Rangers utterly misread the mood of the other SPL clubs. The faux pas occurred despite the fact that Rangers had been briefed at a meeting on Sunday attended by two other SPL chairmen and a vice-chairman, who stressed the need for humility.
Murray, in blazer and club tie, arrived at the gathering on Wednesday with the frontman for the Sevco consortium, Charles Green – who did not sport the club’s uniform – and Ally McCoist, the Ibrox manager. A presentation brochure was distributed to the delegates.
The back page featured a photograph of a Rangers title win with the words “We Are Rangers” emblazoned across it.
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“The arrogance was unbelievable,” said one chairman. “The atmosphere hardened immediately. Charles Green conducted himself well enough but the Rangers chairman was arrogant and dogmatic.”
Another who was present told The Daily Telegraph: “Some people in the room wanted a reason to make a case for Rangers but the standard of the presentation was woeful.
“Ally and Charles Green were not always on the same page but that was not damaging. The chairman was another matter entirely and the brochure was substandard – you could have easily knocked something better together given half an hour. It makes you wonder what kind of management team they have.”
Murray, Green and McCoist absented themselves from the meeting to allow discussion, then returned for the vote and cast theirs as a proxy for Duff & Phelps, administrators of the Rangers oldco.
Only Michael Johnston of Kilmarnock gave them any sort of support with an abstention, while the other 10 clubs – including those who had expressed a degree of willingness to help Rangers, voted ‘No’ to the newco’s admission.
The Rangers party departed and a further two-hour discussion ensued. “It was constructive,” said one who took part. “People actually listened to one another and respected the other positions. It was a huge leap of faith for integrity and it’s now up to the SFA and SFL to make their decision.”
Neil Doncaster, the SPL chief executive, said of the decision to refuse the newco entry: “Clearly there were discussions going on between the newco and the members and ultimately that could have led to a presentation and a proposal put to clubs that they might have said yes to.
“In the end the proposal put forward to the clubs was considered and they said no.”
He added: “I think [the vote] surprised a number of people. Money is important in professional football and I think what our chairmen have done today is put aside the short-term commercial considerations, that would ordinarily drive behaviour, ahead of the longer-term interests of their clubs – and supporter involvement has clearly been a huge part of that.
“Ultimately they believe they have made the right decision and one that brings a bit more clarity to an unclear world. Until we know where Rangers are playing next year we won’t be able to ascertain what the damage is to the Scottish game.
“A number of people have said the decision today has enhanced the reputation of the league but it’s not for me to say.”
Celtic released a statement in which they expressed the integrity of Scottish football as the main reason behind their opposition of newco Rangers entering the SPL.
It read: “Today’s decision to refuse access into the SPL was an overwhelming one and demonstrates the depth of feeling amongst everyone involved in Scottish football.
“Fundamentally, the Celtic Board has also been very mindful of the need to take what it believes to be the correct course of action in protecting the integrity of the game in Scotland.
“Throughout the whole sequence of events leading up to today’s decision the Celtic Board has been of the singular view that the integrity of the game in Scotland is of paramount importance.”
The Rangers Supporters’ Trust, meanwhile, accused other SPL clubs of acting out of “malice”.
Mark Dingwall, as spokesman for the Trust, said: “We are disappointed but not surprised by this decision which has been taken out of malice rather than for the greater good of the Scottish game.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
….PFayr on 4 July, 2012 at 23:25 said:
In case you missed the news recently – their history has STOPPED. Rangers are in the process of liquidation.
No matter what happens with SEVCO, they are not Rangers.
S
67 heaven
Life is going to get increasing uncomfortable for the skankers
Our time has come , bet you thought you’d never see the day
Wishmy grandparents were alive to see this
On SSB tonight , Bomber had to leave to attend the RFFF meeting.
I hope he wasn’t driving as he sounded p1shed again !
Shady
Of course
But not in their minds or the medias
If hey buy Cowdenbeath they’ve no argument
just caught up to the end o the blog
right, am away back tae the start again
lovely !