Scottish football has gone through months of drama and uncertainty to rescue ‘Rangers’. Only weeks ago we were told a CVA was likely. Once this failed the question of today’s SPL vote crystallised.
The SPL met several times to discuss this matter, even doing so before Rangers CVA failed. Sentiment was firmly behind Newco, to the extent that some were worried they would be allowed into the league without any sanction (if one Ayrshire club had their way). All this changed when Charles Green and Duff and Phelps agreed to challenge the SFA at the Court of Session. At the SPL meeting following this decision the mood changed dramatically.
I then had several friends in the media rubbish my suggestion that Newco were far from certain of being voted into the SPL. To be fair to them, my information was not coming from Neil Doncaster, whereas theirs was. If Doncaster was so assured when speaking to the media, day after day, we can only imagine what he was saying to Green. His influence has not been helpful to the cause he championed.
Clubs, who were previously weighing up the argument, suddenly had a convincing point to consider. Rangers going to court was the biggest own goal in their 140 year history. Terry Butcher, eat your heart out.
After this Green was at the mercy of fortune, and the growing influence of the hawk(s) in the SPL who saw no need to create space for Newco. In many respects, John Brown is correct. Having gambled and failed, Green did whatever he could to accommodate but there was no way back. Underestimate John Brown at your peril, he has his club’s interests at heart and has the fortitude to raise a phoenix from the ruins of Ibrox. His unconventional style is easy to mock but it is just what needed (I truly believe this).
Where now for the Newco-Sevco-Rangers? I don’t see a solution. Sooner or later Mr Green will let his friends know they only way forward is for him to acquire an existing Scottish Football League club, rename it to something like Rangers United, and move it to Ibrox.
The toxic history would be set free and it would be game-on. Keep your eye on Cowdenbeath.
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Where’s oor Delia? Busy writing press releases? Should Sevco gate share in Div 3? I think we need a debate on this…
You are showing yourself up.
I have just finished work for the day, editing a book on King Solomon’s temple (Blackwell-Wiley this autumn, strongly recommended).
It’s kind of corrupting really- I mean corrupting in the sense that you drag a discussion down into the pit you seem to live in – that you perpetrate a lie about me rather than address an argument.
So, liar, I think if Newco are in SFL division X they should share gate money. I think gate money in all the Scottish professional leagues should be shared.
….PFayr on 4 July, 2012 at 23:42 said:
Aaaaah, it is a dark place to try to look into their minds. I know they’ve gone, you know they’ve gone. In that dark place they know they’ve gone.
If they buy Cowdenbeath, they, their MSM, and the uninformed will still claim continuity. We shall concede no ground on this – and I’m sure the Green Brigade will do a banner to help us remember.
S
Ole Regan predicts a riot, whilst ole Ally should consider a diet.
Tomorrowforthenextinstalment CSC
Can’t let the day pass without a word for my father in law who passed in 2001, Pat, you would have been ‘highly delighted’.
Thank christ I don’t live in Scotland anymore.
Just had a wee listen to SSB Rewind.
Gun to the head stuff.
TET
Cowdenhuns? Bring it on. It is legal and above board. Nothing we can do to prevent it. They would know however that the Peepl are now Cowdenpeeple. Forever. We would know. They would know we know. As far as CowdenHuns can know. ;-)
liberation day
who are our new rivals
1983
was there a better
last day of a league campaign
NO
MORE OF THIS PLEASE
WE WERE THE BEST
DUNDEE UTD BETTER
ABERDEEN EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS
GEEZ IT
My Da, passed away in May. A life long Celtic fan, going to the games since the 40’s – every game, that is – he would be delighted also at the unfolding of events, but also exasperated at the belligerence and truculence of Batman and Robin at Hampden.
They really are the most deluted peeple on the planet.
Dingwall: “decision out of malice” or maybe just the right thing to do
The comment of the year from Sandy Jarine: “those players done the club out of £10m” Now how much much did that club owe the taxman and other creditors?
Shandy Charmin Two Ply is good value for money.
Keep ’em comin Shandy
Hector Avocado-Building up to SSB,listening to Cosgrove and Spence on Shortbread telling Jabba what things are like in the real world
We’ve said integrity out loud, again :o)
Doncaster must be away by Friday, he has tonight compromised the spl, by making a statement the spl have no right making.
The issue is with the sfa, Doncaster is representing the sfa against the interests of the spl.
The spl have shown integrity today and must now carry this forward and demand the same from the sfa.
Removing Doncaster by Friday will be all the sfl need to see, the spl clubs are serious about integrity, the renesance is here, smile bhoys :o)
HECTOR
ME
DA
GAVE
ME
1983
YOUR DA
WOW
I BOW
Have to confess that i was for boycotting Killie,
but having read plenty posts on here its the chairman and not the fans who are the problem i have changed my mind,so go bhoys and enjoy a Killie pie,before sally gets near them
setting free the bears on 4 July, 2012 at 23:38 said:
Extraordinary – sounds like when they were in a position where they really needed to perform well, they totally blew it – not for the first time. Arrogance seems to be the problem… perhaps that’s been the biggest problem all along.
GUYS
THOT
SPENCE
COSGROVE
PUT
JABBA
IN HIS PLACE
BUT
IS IT BECAUSE JABBA HAS
WEAK
OPPOSITION
NO HE HAS TO MUCH
POWER
SHOULD NOT
HAVE OWN SHOW
Canamalar
Doncaster’s position beggars belief
He has backed the wrong horse …even up until this morning when he knew that his horse was a non runner
His subterfuge is now being steadily revealed ..time up I think
Sheik
Jabba is a flat track bully ……..without the Huns he’s stuffed …..he knows it
emusanorphan on 4 July, 2012 at 23:56 said:
Say after me – Ranger are in administration. Rangers are being liquidated. Their history has stopped.
Nothing changes this – no matter what happens now SEVCO are not Rangers. No history. Let’s not get caught up in the implication that SEVCO entry into SFL equates to a retention of their history.
S
….PFayr on 5 July, 2012 at 00:08 said:
Sheik
Jabba is a flat track bully ……..without the Huns he’s stuffed …..he knows it
AGREE SORT OF
BUT
TOO MUCH POWER
IN MSM ???
Shady
Chill man
However in their world they still continue
Purchasing Cowdenbeath will end the charade ………even fo them
PFayr..,
I really believe if he goes before the weekend, the sfl will vote the same.
All eyes will then turn on the sfa and the rule book, only now are people begining to see how many “as the board deem fit” rules.
Articles of association need rationalised and simplified, but thats just my opinion :o)
Green is trying it on. He has no money. The SPL know this and that the brand is toxic. No money. No credibility move on.
BDO will be in soon and it will all start to unravel again. SPL know that they are a bunch of flannelers. No substance. Nothing but danger on every level.
Then the purge of the footballing bodies will start. A repeat of this circus will never be tolerated. The toxicity of the SPL brand needs readdressing. No substance Green blew it today. Sure he did. He showed his hand.
Subtext is threats of social unrest unless he is accomodated being carried out by the usual suspects. Hence the appeal to the SFL.
Celtic are not being conveniently death in the hope of a quick phoenix. It’s too quick.
HH
….PFayr on 5 July, 2012 at 00:11 said:
Shady
Chill man
However in their world they still continue
Purchasing Cowdenbeath will end the charade ………even fo them
YEA ID CALL TEM
HUN BEATH
Deaf …..I wonder why mmmmmhhhhh
HH
Sorry bhoys, been out the loop all day and just reading the last page or 2 of posts.
Can the undead buy another team? If so, with what monies does this buying take place?
Crisis loan?
It’s Hundependance day after all!
….PFayr / emusanorphan
No matter what happens they’ll cling to that history – just the good bits in public tho. I don’t think we should let them off the hook regardless of the path they squirm along.
I’m well chilled tonight, got my visa and still surprised at the SPL vote.
S
So who had 12th for liquidation day, did anyone keep a list
Awe naw
Neither you nor I could have handled the Hun demise better than D&P and Green
IMO the best is yet to come
Awe_naw – thanks for putting a Stones song in my head from much earlier when i was at work.
I went from `Please to meet you’ to `Ti-i-i-ime is on my side…..’
Non-CQNers don’t get it!
ps Philvis – less vitriol old chap!
Canamalar,
does todays vote and statement from Celtic encourage you in any way to buy a season ticket,
not trying to cause a fight just curious ;-))
I normally lurk now, having my old name changed when the board changed, but have benefitted a fair bit from the posts so just want to say thanks. I am on nights, so missed todays events and the board has brought me up to speed.
I gave up on the rags and phone ins a long time ago. I refuse to voluntarily anger myself and generate them advertising revenue at the same time. Tonight I decided to do likewise with the television news (I’ve known this for years but its more difficult when it gets flung in your room)
They tripped themselves up so many times, trying to say rangers and newco and make them sound like the same and different things, it was like something out of 1984. This may have been said many times before, but I had to explain to my old dear that when it comes to ‘rangers’, if they say a lie often enough you will believe it. This is and has been my concern all along.
Anyway, I don’t get to as many games as I used to. Some seasons I get to 5 some I get to 8. I go when I’m off work and when I can afford to. So I can’t promise to go to more games, I would anyway.
So I will do something I have not done in years. I will buy a strip. I gave up buying strips cos I innevitably end up wearing a classic one from about 1994, but I shall get a new one.
AoW,
hopefully its their only option :o)
Now the fav is cowdenbieth, but thats in a low league, so they have come up with a master plan.
If one of their hundercover agents has infiltrated another organisatio and can anger all other supporters enough, theres a good chance the value of infected organisation will drop allowing a relatively cheap bid, now, wonder whose involved highter up the ladder, no excrement sherlock moment coming up :o)
LInk to Sportsound anyone?
Art of War
They have to learn that they can’t always get what they want hunny. And Wild horses wouldn’t drag any of us away. No satisfaction but plenty of sympathy from the devil. I will say it with dead flowers on their grave We wont miss you and if you dont get some shelter your going to fade away.
Here’s one more ;-)
HH
Well I told you once and I told you twice But ya never listen to my advice You don’t try very hard to please me With what you know it should be easy
Well this could be the last time This could be the last time Maybe the last time I don’t know. oh no. oh no
Well, Im sorry girl but I can’t stay Feelin like I do today Its too much pain and too much sorrow Guess I’ll feel the same tomorrow
Well this could be the last time This could be the last time Maybe the last time I don’t know. oh no. oh no
Well I told you once and I told you twice That someone will have to pay the price But heres a chance to change your mind Cuz I’ll be gone a long, long time
Well this could be the last time This could be the last time Maybe the last time I don’t know. oh no. oh no Well, this could be the last time
ampersandel – so it’s the CR Smith special? Was a big hit for me in the nightclubs of Corfu.
So what you gonna do when you buy this strip?
shady on 5 July, 2012 at 00:09 said:
emusanorphan on 4 July, 2012 at 23:56 said:
Say after me – Ranger are in administration. Rangers are being liquidated. Their history has stopped.
Nothing changes this – no matter what happens now SEVCO are not Rangers. No history. Let’s not get caught up in the implication that SEVCO entry into SFL equates to a retention of their history.
S
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Bless me Shady for I have sinned ;-)
Gordybhoy64,
very encouraged indeed :o)