Just shy a year since their last league defeat, Celtic fell at St Mirren yesterday. With practically none of the ball in the first half, St Mirren scored three minutes before the break. Until then, Celtic passed with precision but without penetration. The goal ignited Celtic, who created a few chances before halftime, but were unable to get back on terms.
Jota and Hatate came on for Maeda and Mooy at the restart without impacting Celtic’s effectiveness. St Mirren doubled their lead early in the second half, prompting Ange Postecoglou then departed from his tactical norm. Abada was replaced by Haksabanovic, but Giakoumakis replaced Turnbull, giving us the unusual sight of two up front, with TV viewers (like me) wondering what the shape was. I still am.
The final period of the game saw further disruption to our tried and tested shape, as Taylor was withdrawn for O’Riley. Celtic defended with Jenz, Welsh and Ralston, as the midfield looked short of space and even shorter in players who knew where they should be moving.
Last week we spoke about the dangers of an away game in the league after an away game in Europe. Minds and bodies are tired, your opponents often get a week to prep for a game you’ve not given a thought to until the day before.
Ange has a responsibility to rest the players when possible. Even though Celtic do not have a game for two weeks, many in the squad will play internationals in that time, adding to their seasons’ toil. He was right to expect more from the starting 11 than he got. Less so his subsequent tactical changes, which looked random and did not improve matters.
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Roy Croppie – it was spellcheck that changed it after all.
AN TEARMANN on 19TH SEPTEMBER 2022 10:03 PM
It’s the solitary example that’s always trotted out.
Always.
A country of 50+ million and one example is always used.
A remembrance of events from he 16th century when a number of the locals were burnt at the stake for being Prodies.
Is there any evidence of anti Catholic sectarianism or discrimination there in recent times (say the last couple of centuries)?
SFTB…that’s a decent charitable donation in the run-up to christmas….has my vote ;;-))
H.H.
Setting free the bears
& all superbru Celts
Well done to all participating Celts and yourself for running and administering it.Impressive stuff.
:-)
HH
AN TEARMANN @ 10:03 PM,
Well, I would imagine it does, went “through” Lewes a few times on business back in the day (a major client in Eastbourne).
It has a huge bonfire night and effigy burning “ceremony”.
The fact that it is so unique tells a story
The fact that its an ancient English satire that is celebrated that it would be very difficult for Scots to understand without a wee bit of study and an open mind.
I had to explain to good ghuy on here the other day, why FTC was bigoted.
Seriously now!?
Hail Hail
Penalty shoot-outs before the game,
Support the Celtic board pre-DD,
Celtic supporters funding a rapist,
An island = a country,
Comedy goal!
Only it is not that funny,
EL CSC
Sack the board, empty Hampden, a new Union CSC
BTW I really dont mind those who care about the Queen doing their thing = so be it.
Chairbhoy…burning effigies as satire is something I would like to be educated about…if you have the time, ta ;-))
H.H.
Ernie.
Wheesht Ernie🤣its one example that attracted every anti Catholic Bigotry around and as I said in 80s when I was there it was a trip away for the more embroidered crimplene.
The shadow of Guy fawkes birthed paranoias that on the one hand give us the ancient,institutional and inculcated anticatholic laws/rituals/goatwatching that is UK kult law,its sub kult which you pin all on is nonsense…..on the other hand it mushrooms out to incorporate other cultures they are bigoted against that they have violated,no blacks ,no Irish,no dogs
HH
Chairbhoy
Ah I recall the ancient satire chat down there CB
As a catholic friend said at the time.
The satire wears but the laws don’t change.
Hope all OK down your way
:-)
HH
EL read a book called Political Murder and then come on this forum and lecture people about their opinions. (Imagine if the Shankill Butchers had operated in any other part o the ‘UK’ how the British media would have reacted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay3xYkaKDxc
Love yah
10.13. Ernie
Fair point and that was the purpose of the institution when initially formed in the late 19th century. I do accept the individual ‘privilege’ supports your point also.
For my dad ( youngest of 15 or so kids brought up in a 2 bed tenement 400 yds from CP to be able to afford to spend £28 per term to send me there was a breakthrough which allowed me to benefit. With the privilege came it’s own challenges of being the only Catholic in our street multiplied by being one of few private school kids in our area. We all have our crosses to bare.
It’s been a marathon not a sprint but in the main my own view the race has been run and won for Catholics many of whom have navigated paths to climb from their humble backgrounds. Not just Jesuit taught ! Mostly not Jesuit taught in my experience.
Celtic success epitomises this. Rangers was the last bastion of Protestant supremacy. It was one of the few things the downtrodden working class orange order and middle management and their like had. They clung to this to embody their supremacist beliefs so when they lost that 10 years ago it must have brought it all home to them how much they had lost their place. Rangers is about a few wealthy exploiting those very lowlife and their fantasies. It has been since 1920 or so.
For Catholics there is no need to cling to such as Celtic. Many can go well beyond the boundaries of what was possible 40 years ago. For many Celtic success is however still a symbol of that progress.
Just my thoughts Ernie but I agree with your view I am not atypical.
Off to a wee flounce – EL needs a wee flounce = an influencer = sad life of being ignored.com.
We feel your pain -love yah CSC
Bonfire night in Lewes is in the news every year in England, they parade huge cartoonish heads of unpopular political and contemporary figures through the streets of the town and then burn them. There are effigies of an old Pope and some Protestant martyrs but really, no one gives a monkeys about the religious symbolism involved, it’s a meaningless tradition
Lewes is full of creative types who move out of London for cheaper houses and decent schools.
Fine essay B78.
So yi sane yir no a dafty? 🤪🤪
The thing say with racism It’s always a menatwork thing with an educated outcome.
HH
Celtic40me
Thanks for the updates on lewes.it was a nice wee town as were a lot along that coast.
meaningless tradition- let’s burn 2 bales of hay then ? lol.🤣
HH
Celtic40me
Thanks for the insight ;-))
H.H.
Thank God I am in Lanzarote for 3 weeks and away from the mourning circus.I am informed that the English Catholic Cardinal spoke well today,sorry not in my name spineless individual,did he speak out against the discrimatory act of succession, or closed food banks or zero hours workers forced to take a days unpaid leave not a chance what would Jesus Christ have said.As for Anti Catholic bigotry in Scotland today its just more subtle than was in the past.KeepThe Faith.
At a council meeting on Thursday 21 October, I put a question to Brighton and Hove’s Green administration asking them to condemn the continued practice of burning catholic effigies, displaying anti catholic slogans and other religious bigotry openly tolerated at Lewes and other bonfire events.
I called on them to pressure Sussex Police and neighbouring authorities to end such practices of religious hate that intersperse otherwise wonderfully unique events.
I was heartened by the positive response from Councillor Phélim MacCafferty who agreed to issue a statement reiterating our commitment to equality and opposing sectarian symbolism at the parades.
Both Sussex Police and Lewes District Council have a statutory duty to address religious discrimination and yet seem blind, or rather turn a blind eye, to such unacceptable displays – a cultural residue of an unpleasant historical sectarianism that once spread fear and hatred in the county.
I have asked the Equality and Human Rights Commission to investigate and have demanded action by the largely absent Conservative police and crime commissioner.
Sussex bonfire events are magnificent. They are hugely enjoyable, and residents should be able to attend without being faced with cries of ‘no popery’ and ‘burn the Pope’.
While I am certain that most participants of these events are not bigoted in the slightest and
probably give little thought to the matter, the displays feed into a deep-rooted suspicion of the
catholic community that periodically raises its ugly head in England and remains an ever-present danger in Northern Ireland and parts of Scotland.
I am sure that some will respond with the age-old defence of the bigot, ‘it’s only a bit of fun’.
Others will no doubt claim that we must tolerate the right to offend.
Of course we should, but calling for the burning of the man, central to the catholic faith and chanting ‘no papists here’ is not an expression of a view, or even the legitimate right to offend. It is violent and exclusionary language in a public place.
We would condemn public displays of anti-Islamic or antisemitic slogans and the burning of related effigies and rightly so. Such behaviour would violate our sense of decency and commitment to tolerance and inclusion.
Yet why is it still deemed fair game to chant ‘burn him’ at effigies of Pope Francis and priests?
It is time Sussex Police and our neighbouring local authorities took decisive action to exclude and prevent such discriminatory conduct from family events and apply the law as it was intended.
Let’s enjoy our magnificent displays and partake in the fun without the sinister and exclusionary remnants of sectarian hate. Our diverse and tolerant ceremonial county deserve nothing less.
Councillor Nick Childs is a Labour member of the Tourism, Equalities and Communities Committee on Brighton and Hove City Council.
Everything you know about the British Empire is a lie
https://youtu.be/fSLDGuBPxJo
aff to bed
The cult of Brit Nat propaganda is nauseating here
Laughable risible nonsense
Outside the cult of the white nat brit nat
different views
https://youtu.be/0GR84Ns07cM
An T
LoL 😂. Hardly.
1st link on YT re Lewes Fire festival…make up yer own mind ;-))
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcecvnlgu8E&t=30s7
H.H.
And so it came to pass.
A great institution shocked
Scots and Irish Pipers leading the lament
The Brigade silent humbled in defeat
Many in mourning others celebrating
Michelle and Michael in tears
James MacMillan asks Who Shall Separate Us from the Love of Christ?
Historians ask if things will ever be the same……
The loyal sing will ye no come back again?
The day the Celtic got beat in Paisley
Celtic Mac
Profound last line
The pass in your first line could have been crisper.
:-)
HH
Chairbhoy
“I had to explain to good ghuy on here the other day, why FTC was bigoted.”
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I must have missed that and I am intrigued as to why Feck the Crown can be bigoted.
Is being anti-monarchy a bigoted position?
Is pro-Republican a bigoted position?
I genuinely struggle with the way you use the terms sectarianism and bigotry.
an tearmann
My grief, subsumed within the wider narrative….
Last thing I need AT ….is a critic
Hail Hail
FTC means anything you want….feed the coos…feeling the cold….fold the cards….does it have to be bigoted. I guess context is a factor…feudal trumps commoner ;-))
H.H.
Celtic Mac
;-)))
Ah feel like that at the end of unbeaten runs tae.🤣
Any updates from Florida Court in States ?
HH
an tearmann
Not really been monitoring it, though given it involves cease and desist you would think it would merit a quick decision making process. Be interesting if the US District Court asks about the history of the trademarks and brands that RIFC is trying to protect. Doubt if King Charles will get involved with this one.
As opposed to Florida Court near the Mount ;-))
The Rankers board are fighting off all and sundry to keep their pre-eminent failings..and am sooo sad lol 😂
H.H.
*secret
After posting at 11.39 last night, at 12.26 the emperor was standing with no clothes on
Well soon depart for Larkhall, work beckons
Reality will be a hassle-free day, I may spot someone without any clothes on at the cross
have a good day
Paul Delaney@coaimpaul
Ordinary people pay taxes. The rich pay accountants. The very wealthy pay politicians. Meanwhile, politically facilitated inequality is killing our people and destroying our world.
Aidan in Scotsman
The answer to whether FTC is bigotted
Republicanism has its place
All polling evidence suggests – like many of the weighty matters of the day – Scotland is pretty much split down the middle between royalists and republicans. Yet, in the mourning period following the death of the Queen, those in the latter camp have been disenfranchised from the public discourse as critical analysis of the institution has been largely avoided. Yet, republicanism isn’t a crank, lunatic fringe position. In their youth, both the current Prime Minister and the leader of the opposition expressed anti-monarchist views. Not that you would know it as a modern affliction has been witnessed in the past 11 days. In a polarised world, it often now seems not enough to disagree with opposing opinions; instead, all attempts must be made to delegitimise the very holding of them.
Into this context can be placed the furore over Celtic supporters’ protest with banner and song during the minute applause for the Queen in Paisley. As a club with Irish Catholic origins, it is hardly radical that this constituency is implacably opposed to an hereditary bloodline that confers patronage and privilege in a political dimension at the exclusion of those of this religion. A centrifugal force of the establishment, the UK monarchy is inescapably wrapped up with empire, imperialism and colonialism – predilections that have reaped a bitter harvest in Ireland and so many parts of the world, even if, in these islands, there is denial over that.
Unlike the distasteful songs by Dundee United and Hibs fans that gloried in the Queen’s death the day previously, the banners that stated ‘if you hate the royal family, clap your hands’, and the accompanying singing of those lines, was not personalised. It was deliberately holistic, and darkly smart for an applause tribute. It called out the concept of sovereignty. It was confrontational and would have been offensive to the great many, but such challenging activities still fall within a notable realm – the realm of free speech.
https://twitter.com/Kels__Tweets/status/1571825573831536641?s=20&t=irm33tHaHYHz3tqXAmqXYA
Nice to hear the bagpipes, shame about the dubious characters walking in step to the beat.
Murdo ynwa 💚
I posted yesterday that my daughter in law was going to London – she’s just collected her daughter who was staying with us and gave a brief account of her day.
She saw nothing and was kettled by the police to Hyde park.
But she was glad she went.
So now Ange is being linked with Leicester, maybe a swap for Brendan