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  3. Fool Time Whistle on

    EMBRAMIKE on 27TH APRIL 2019 4:26 PM

     

     

    It’s hard to judge some things from our limited vantage point, but for fans – all we have to go on is what we see on the field.

     

     

    When BR left I expected a dip in performance & results. It seemed anger & a fortress mentaility saw the team & the interim coach through those first few games – right up to and including the game against Newco on March 17. But those victories only masked the impact that BR’s departure had on the squad. I think we’re now seeing the delayed reaction to the departure of the previous manager.

     

     

    We’re actually better off in terms of players than when NFL took over: when he came in we had no Rogic or McGregor or Benkovic. We used Bitton & Henderson who now don’t even make the bench. Ewan Henderson played for the reserves on Monday and as far as I know hasn’t been injured.

     

    As you say, as policy, Neil is not selecting loan players, something to which I’ve referred to on here before.

     

    Does he have favourites or is he planning for next season? Have some players with contracts up made it clear that they either want to go or are asking for too much cash? Is Neil just assessing his contracted players so as to establish who to let go & where he meeds to strengthen?

     

     

    His reasoning for selections is a little academic but the impact is clear for all of us to see. It sometimes looks to me as if the squad spirit has evaporated & that has infected play on the field. Today was an emotionally charged day where, just like in those early games under NFL, we found something extra to get the win. But like those early games when last minute winning goals were a feature, today’s win only masks deficiencies.

     

     

    As much as I like NFL for all the right reasons, I have doubts about whether he has what we as a club need to a) stabilise the club and b) take us forward. I’m sure David Moyes’s appearance at the ground today was as a tribute to Billy, but when an out of work manager who’s also an ex player sits in the stands we know rumours are sure to follow.

     

     

    For the first time since he came back, I saw very evident frustration & anxiety on his face today. If we had not won the game today – and we were very close to being a goal down in the 1st half – it doesn’t bear thinking about.

     

     

    We will wn the league with one more point, but performances & results have been less than convincing. If this is NFL’s audition the panel would not give him the job. I’m sad at the thought of that for him personally, but the gulf between and his readiness & what the club needs was highlighted by his surprise & admiration for the systems installed by his predecessor. That meant that he had no previous experience of these technical & player assessment & development systems, systems that are essential tools for any modern manager. Neil is more old school than modern man, but we need a modern manager. The club has moved on since he was last manager but I suspect that he hasn’t which puts the club at an unnecessary disadvantage.

     

     

    Hope you are well.

     

    HH

  4. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    FOOL TIME WHISTLE .

     

     

    What a well thought out and expressed post.

     

    I completely agree with your comments and analysis of where we are.

     

     

    When Neil was mentioned as a possible successor the the previous fella, I said that I didn’t want the Lennon of 5 years ago and doubted if he had changed his philosophy.

     

     

    Being a student of the O’Neil and Strachan schools of football, I doubted if he could change.

     

    He has admitted to not being big into tactics.

  5. Fool Time Whistle on

    GLENDALYSTONSILS on 27TH APRIL 2019 5:26 PM

     

     

    I agree that the wrong winger was taken off – based on their performance to that point.

     

     

    I admire James Forrest on so many levels, but he’s often not well served by our team selections & by how opponents line up against him. Once it was clear he was being double marked and more & that TR was not at the races, the coach should know what options he has available to him. James was left to cope with impossible odds & operated in isolation – as did all of our forwards.

     

     

    Scott Sinclair is an enigma to me. He has blistering pace – but we never/rarely use it to good effect.

     

    He can’t cross the ball with any conviction & has a poor fisrt touch as often as not.

     

    His one trick of drifting in from the left & bending the ball into the far corner is easily countered by forcing him onto his left.

     

    Strangely today, after the double substitution he was moved inside & linked up reasonably well.

     

     

    We were lucky today. We failed to deliver crosses either from corners or from open play the whole game. On the one occasion we put it a quality cross we had the right man in position. We might have desrved the win, but by the same token Steve Clarke could say the same with some justification.

     

     

    Hope you are well.

     

    HH

  7. Fool Time Whistle on

    ThomTheTim

     

     

    That’s a scary quote “Not big on tactics”.

     

     

    I think that the difference between BR’s cerebral style & Neil’s approach is confusing for players.

     

    They certainly play like they’re scared to make mistakes.

     

    We often used to question BR’s teams for a lack of fight at the expense of shape & tactics.

     

    Now it seems that the team has swung the other way – too much get intae them & less tactics.

     

    Steve Clarke is showing everyone manager in Scotland how tactics, fitness & preparation can tale modcest teams far.

     

     

    Hope you are well.

     

    HH

  8. big packy 1 on

    I hope that davie moyes presence at the game, was only to pay respect to billy, which I thank him for, but as the next celtic manager, its a no from me.hh.

  9. corkcelt on

    It is a very strangle situation, we are on the cusp of 8 in a row and then 1 game away from an unprecedented Treble Treble & yet we are not happy. I am not accusing anybody because I also felt let down at today’s performance.

     

    However I do feel guilty for harboring such thoughts and accordingly have studiously avoided mirrors for the day. I also find myself being reluctantly drawn into the ‘ Lenny won’t do camp’ .

     

    We are spoiled brats and winning Titles are now not enough we must win every game by 4 or 5 goals playing exquisite football. We deserve a massive kick in the arse and I include myself in the spoiled brats Brigade.

  10. rimtimtim on

    McNeill would always want someone to wear his number 5 jersey out there. Bellshill Billy.

  11. rimtimtim on

    Couldn’t find the words this week and now I’m speechless. It was a brilliant goal and just like one of Billy’s great headers! Uncanny! Cheers Jozo!!!

  12. KINGLUBO on

    David Moyes, —no thanks.

     

    if Neil has to go we should show a bit of ambition, like we did when Brendan was appointed and get a manager in who is forward thinking.

     

    Todays game was pretty grim viewing. At one point I was thinking, how many of these players actually give a f##k

     

    KINGLuBO

  13. the_huddle on

    corkcelt on 27th April 2019 7:27 pm

     

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    Celtic winning the league in Scotland (currently) should be a given considering how much money we spend, yet we are toiling. Fans should be concerned and asking questions.

     

     

    I hope the board are also concerned.

  14. glendalystonsils on

    FOOL TIME WHISTLE on 27TH APRIL 2019 7:09 PM

     

     

    Thanks for reply. The question I have is whether James and Scott didn’t switch wings because they didn’t get a nod from Lenny and if not why not? Was that passivity on their part or the manager’s part? Sinclair is a shadow of his former self and I doubt if he will be with us much longer , especially with Shved on the way.

  15. celticrollercoaster on

    Good Evening fholks

     

     

    Been a while. Lenny’s Lions not easy on the eyes, but job done! 1 point to go! Don’t understand why loan players are not been utilised.

     

     

    Had to be. Jozo No 5, 67 minutes. Just continues the Celtic story!

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  16. Nye Bevans' rebel soldier on

    CORKCELT

     

     

    I love the Celtic support, but as you say we have become spoiled I genuinely worry about how the young uns will cope with a dry spell.

  18. the_huddle on

    I don’t really buy the loan player conspiracy.

     

     

    Benkovic has been injured (a few times this season), Simo and Ajer have come in and done a very good job, would be strange to drop one of them for Benkovic.

     

     

    Weah has really only been used as a sub since coming to the club, and continues to be under Lenny (though does need more game time).

     

     

    Burke is a pretty poor footballer, and what little form he had at the start has deserted him.

  19. ernie lynch on

    Lest we forget.

     

     

    B.R.’s cerebral, forward thinking approach delivered regular humpings in Europe.

     

     

    Be careful what you wish for.

  20. glendalystonsils on

    Being in my 70th year, I have been through the very best of times and the very worst of times with Celtic.

     

    I therefore can’t go along with the argument that we shouldn’t be critical right now because times are relatively very good. We have a stranglehold domestically which we are not gripping tightly enough and seemingly little in the way of European ambition.

  21. Saint Stivs on

    the invisible guy is in the hoose tonight counting his medals.

     

     

    and rightly he doesnt care what the overseas moanners think.

     

     

    the bhoy has become a man these last few seasons.

     

     

    i hope he gets player of the year.

  23. corkcelt on

    Don’t think winning the Title is ever a ‘Given’. Every team up their game against us, every MIB drop their standards when they ref us.

     

    We have a Financial advantage and are entitled to be favorites but every game is hard won by us.

     

    I rejoice in this Title and I rejoice in our every win, the day I stop having that feeling is the day I’ll quit.

  24. Almore on

    RTE are running a poll to see what Ireland’s favourite folk song is. A shortlist of ten songs has been compiled and they will be featured on a programme presented by Mary Black at 7.30pm each Sunday for the next five weeks.

     

     

    First of the shortlisted 10 is The Parting Glass.

     

     

    Here’s a Clancy Bros & Tommy Makes version:

     

     

    https://youtu.be/1se8_-fcxZs

  25. celticrollercoaster on

    The Huddle

     

     

    Burke’s pace today could have made a difference towards the end when we were hanging on. You are doing him an injustice calling him a poor footballer, but then all about opinions. We came into a bit a form in mid January , and I would put it down to the impact of the loan players adding a difference to the squad.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  26. Scaniel on

    LYMMBHOY on 27TH APRIL 2019 1:56 PM

     

    Wow…….Number 5…..67th minute……a header….and from a corner.

     

     

    Hail Cesar

     

     

    DEXTER P. BAMPOT on 27TH APRIL 2019 2:02 PM

     

    Think you’ll find that Billy McNeill actually scored that one

     

     

    Thank you Cesar. Again.

     

     

    HH

     

    Me: Magical. It was meant to be. Fairytale Time.

     

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    Sent this around a few people I know and I get a reply from my brother who I haven’t seen or heard from for the longest time. Can’t figure that out. He also tells me he was right behind the goal when Billy’s Bumper went in in ‘65. I didn’t know that and am now quite envious.

     

    I’m with Adi at 5:33. Celebrate like there’s no tomorrow as tomorrow will look after itself.

  29. GFTB on

    Corkcelt 7.27pm

     

     

    Only read this page been on the go all day between work and MissGFTB duties

     

     

    Am not that unhappy and going by the texts I received the back of 2pm today there was plenty of happiness about Jozo – number 5, 67 and us just managing to get in front in a game where Neil (even P67 mentioned last time three 0-0s) would have been slaughtered … am happy that all options are being considered and will not be disappointed if Neil gets the job to lead us into next season … I think since BR has left it’s been my strangest Celtic experience, been a weird couple of months … but today’s victory was a massive weight lifted 12pts clear with 12pts to play for, just read the article on CQN and picture with Jozo & the McNeill family … tremendous stuff … maybe Neil is a bit cagey as he doesn’t want to be the bhoy who lets 8 slip … and one thing everyone should remember footballers are weans and need to be mollycoddled in fact they are even worse than us on here, myself definitely included :-)

     

     

    There’s only 1 King Billy .. and that’s McNeill

  30. Scaniel on

    Also thanks to Bada Bing (I think) for recommending 19 Crimes and its Fenian background. Only found out yesterday that the cork numbers the 19 crimes. Yesterday’s was impersonating an Egyptian, this evening’s (toasting today’s victory) is number 12, bigamy. Going to have to collect the set now. It’s a hard job, but someone has to do it.

  31. Dexter P. Bampot on

    Today, JF, SS and EI repeatedly made the same error of cutting inside to a packed central area. The Killie defence was lapping it up. Stevie Clark was loving it. This went on and on. Again and again. The players, as professionals, surely could see this pattern?! The management too. Yet nothing changed. The bleeding obvious was to go beyond the full back, hit the byline and create space for midfielders to get into the box.

     

     

    NFL’s body language has been indicative of a man who must not be getting the job. Not sitting, but slouching. Not cajoling, not pointing. Failing to make subs which are in any way meaningful. If he’s still in the frame for the job he isn’t helping himself.

     

     

    Today, of all days, was one for urgency and intensity by all of the players and management and I just didn’t see it.

     

     

    Delighted to get the win with the eerie coincidences of the goal. Bain, Ajer, Simo and Broonie apart, the team just about did enough. Surely the fans and Cesar deserved better?

  33. ron67 on

    27 shots at goal but only 6 on target today , sums it up , we need an out and out striker.

  35. Scaniel on

    Thought PC Lustig was brilliant today showing the world the number 5 shirt and what it means to us all. They’ll get that all over the globe. Hope he stays for the ten. That Bhoy loves the ‘Tic.

  37. onenightinlisbon on

    A few guys have commented on Neil’s body language today and I commented on it myself during the game. He seemed to not be involved, neutral almost. The performances under him have been similar.

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