There is a realisation that the information issued by Craig Whyte last week is only the beginning of what promises to be weeks of salacious details. Ownership of Ibrox, Murray Park and other assets purchased by Sevco 5088, a company which Charles Green signed a Companies House form for on 27 December 2012, but which Craig Whyte claims to be a significant interest holder in, is in doubt.
This matter could take weeks to play out and months, or longer, to settle. The evidence provided thus far is interesting but courts are notoriously more concerned by paperwork than recorded conversations. If Craig Whyte has paperwork to back his claims he will feel by far the more comfortable of the two parties.
Of more immediate concern will be what Cenkos Securities knew. Cenkos were the Nominated Advisors for Rangers International’s recent Initial Public Offering and Newco’s directors would have been required to inform them of any claim over assets, no matter how spurious or disputed.
City Regulators move quicker than the courts and will want early information on when Whyte’s claims were made, what was revealed to Cenkos and how the board minute-d these matters. Keep your eye on this one.
Having used David Longmuir to get at SFL clubs in an attempt to sink league reconstruction plans Charles Green, who has made no secret of his opposition to them, turned to St Mirren chairman Stuart Gilmour. Gilmour, who was incandescent with outrage last year when SFL clubs refused to make a space in their top flight for Newco, plans to acquiesce.
He should reconsider before the St Mirren board meet to discuss this on Wednesday.
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JinkyNewton, you and yours in my thoughts tonight.
Thanks doc
It’s the hardest thing to witness
My poor papa
She loves the Celtic
Just viewed pic and yip that’s me under the 2 ‘T’s on the banner having a break from the pole! I would say that the camera add 10lbs – and a good few years by the looks of it! Good crack with the CQN family – looking forward to the next one.
jinkynewton-wee prayer said HH
JinkyNewton, been there mate,stay strong for you Papa.
He’ll need you in the days to come. Look after yourself too.
jinkynewton
Prayers being said.god bless yer nana.
Weefra HH
Right, off to bed now.
Weefra HH
macjay,
I no longer have a direct interest in UK or Scottish politics.
No Representation Without Taxation, as it were.
However, I think Salmond is fatally flawed, due to his overt lobbying for a law breaking organisation that he associates so closely with the essence of Scottishness.
That there has not been a dissenting voice from his Party, never mind a challenge to his leadership, is ominous.
The SNP need to wake up to the reality that the Inner Circle has been exposed and Alex rode the wrong horse.
Thanks guys
My papa was deputy head of st brides, he’s a strong man,
Life is so shIt when it ends this way
The priest was awesome former pupil of my papas, made me want to start Chaple again. Father Morton I think fr cambuslang
Jinky
Father Paul morton is my parish priest
An amazing man … very much loved by all his parishioners…
He mentioned a lady at mass today .. said she was very ill.. asked us all to pray for her
God bless
jinkynewton,
Thoughts and prayer.
May the Holy Spirit guard and protect you all.
Green and Sally trying to distract from the main event with this “worst team” mince IMO.
The boy jinky
That will be my nana
Paul Morton is great with my family, I am up in aberdeenshire so only vaugely know him from visits etc
His picture hangs on their wall as they are so proud of him
God bless
Fred
Its the only team sevco have had… so ally can argue ; best… Charles ; worst …
Jinky
Im sure jobo on cqn went to school with father paul.
Father was talking about doubting thomas today… said if someone tells us something would we believe them
Then said… if I said I was gonna pull on the green and white hoops and get selected to play for celtic next week.. o wouldnt expect you to believe me. ;))))
Last year he did a bungee for charity. .. this year hes going on a motor bike at 140mph round knockhill .
The Boy Jinky ,
True enough :O). After telling the world he conned our hero, the media seem to be running interference for him.
thomthetim
Like you,I don`t have a clear understanding of the issues at stake with this bill.
Nevertheless ,I am perfectly comfortable to agree with the attitude of what seems to be the overwhelming majority of Celtic supporters ,that this is a flawed bill.
They live there and are subject to the ramifications.
They are in a better position to judge than me.
My overriding and only concern is the welfare of Celtic.
You and I have inherited a tradition which must be defended,irrespective of where we live.
That`s my only motivation.
I feel sure you feel the same way.
Hail Hail
Absolutely delighted that Oscar Time made so many people so much money on Saturday.
The wee man deserves every bit of luck going but it’s also great to see so many of his supporters catching a break.
In other news… Who goes first? Ally or Charles? It’s starting to look like a fight to see who gets out the quickest. When the Huns are spouting their “world records” pish remember this…. taking into account their debts on liquidation and their written off “loans” from Murray’s company they should have been operating at about £20m per year less than The Celtic.
£20m per year. The equivalent to 20 players on £20k per week each. A full first team squad and more.
They can never match us again for two reasons.
1. Finances
2. They’re deid.
Buy your tickets and enjoy the ride.
The boy jinky
Aye he seems to be some man
The prayer he said over nana broke my heart and made me proud
My nana is Celtic daft
I am a proud man
macjay1 for Neil Lennon
That’s exactly how I feel.
Celtic and only Celtic is my concern in these matters, outdated as we may be,
Off to the crib now.
g’night.
Fred
It would appear the msm agree that its ok to con a fellow conman . Guess a murderer can murder another murderer too and expect clemency
Thomthetim
The sleep of the just.
:-)
Jinkynewton
He invited me to christmas dinner. ..
He always chats to me… shows genuine concern for me.
Im proud to declare I love father morton … he is my inspiration
The boy jinky
I am sure you will know my nana and papa then
But for another time now is not appropriate
jinkynewton,
Heading to bed, will say a prayer for you and your nana.
YNWA.
Jinky
Off to bed now… your nana is in my prayers
Thanks fred
Funny I read all these other posts when things went wrong and wondered why folks post
You three have made me feel better
Thanks
Ally McCoist: ‘How many titles has Green won?’
By STUART BATHGATE
Published on Monday 8 April 2013 00:00
ALLY McCoist has hit back strongly at Charles Green’s claim that this is the worst Rangers team in history, questioning his employer’s credentials for making that judgment, which was first stated last month and repeated in a Sunday newspaper yesterday.
But the Rangers manager also insisted that he and the club’s owner were on the same wavelength about how progress should be made.
Speaking following his team’s comfortable 4-1 victory against Queen’s Park, the manager of the Third Division champions said he was looking forward to receiving the £10 million investment that Green has promised. But, after offering his thoughts on the Hampden match itself, he began by taking issue with that claim of Green’s that no team since Rangers first took the field more than 140 years ago was as poor as the present one.
“This is also the best Rangers team Charles has ever seen, as he’s relatively new to Rangers,” a frustrated McCoist said. “In my opinion it’s not the worst Rangers team. I’m not sure how many titles Charles has won in his career, but I’ve been very fortunate enough to win 14, including as assistant manager. But this one was the hardest.
“That title that we were all involved in there is probably the hardest out of the 14 I’ve been fortunate enough to be involved in. I know what it takes to win a title. It doesn’t matter what division you’re in, it takes a special group of people and talent and hard work to win titles. I would have thought everyone could maybe take a wee step back and offer some congratulations to those boys, because I’m certainly doing that right now.”
While Rangers did not come close to reaching the final of either of the main cup competitions, they have won the Third Division in some comfort, albeit while often underperforming. In that respect, McCoist feels they have done all that has been asked of them.
“They can’t do any more. They were asked to win a league and they’ve won.
“We lost 30-odd players [last summer], we didn’t have a squad, six players turned up for pre-season training – and four of them left.
“We assembled a squad of players who weren’t allowed to play a pre-season game. We assembled a group of players to win a division that we didn’t know, because we hadn’t been in it before. So have they done the job? You better believe they’ve done the job.
“Charles has gone on record as saying there is £10m to spend when it’s available – and there will be money to spend. That’s fantastic.
“I’m obviously looking forward to hopefully getting the opportunity to spend that. We can’t do it in respect of buying players right now, because the embargo is with us until next January.
“We can sign free transfers in September. But I would hope, and the Rangers supporters absolutely deserve, some quality and new faces to come to the club. I’m sure we’re all singing from the same hymn sheet when it comes to providing that.”
Having worked under former owner Craig Whyte, whose involvement with Green was the subject of sustained speculation last week, McCoist has been made promises before which were not delivered. But, asked why he thought the promises made by Green would be kept, he appeared sure that the current owner was sincere in his stated plans for returning Rangers to what both men see as their rightful place at the top of Scottish football.
“The vast majority of the promises have been made in public,” he continued. “We would certainly hope them to be kept – and I’m certainly not expecting anyone not to stick to their word. I don’t believe that will be the case, far from it.
“I just look forward to pressing ahead. I am genuinely delighted for the players and supporters. You saw those supporters turning out again today. They’ve been through hell with their club in the last 18 months and they deserve this, because they’ve been with us all the way.
“Listen, I know the team, I know the supporters, I know what is expected. And at times our performance has dipped a little bit.
“But I think even the supporters will look back and say: ‘You know, the boys have done a good job and managed to win another title for Rangers’.”
Asked why those fans should believe Green’s promises, McCoist added: “I think Charles is more than capable of answering those questions himself, to be honest with you. He’s never shirked a question and I don’t see him doing it now.”
The forthright way in which McCoist took issue with Green will inevitably cause some tension between the two, but the manager appears to believe that such robust exchanges of views would not have a damaging effect on their relationship. He has been reassured, among other things, by a meeting he had with the owner to discuss some of those claims about Green’s dealings with Whyte which surfaced last week.
“I’ve had a meeting with Charles,” he said. “It lasted well over an hour, and it was absolutely fine, absolutely constructive. We’re obviously in the same boat: we both want the club to move forward.
“That is the priority for me and it has not changed. The club must move forward, and we’re both of the opinion that that is going to be the case.”
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/sfl-division-three/ally-mccoist-how-many-titles-has-green-won-1-2882278
‘Obviously in the same boat’?
That sound ominous.
Didn’t a manager of the former club come to a sticky end in such circumstances?
Chuck has been rumbled. Sally challenging him about how many titles he has won and Chuck promised the 10m ; I have his word. On the claims from Whyte , Sally is saying Chuck can answer himself. Somebody has had a word in Sallys ear. Ian King has the intel from Whyte and no doubt it has been shared with Sally (and the waistcoat)
We should not forget the Malcolm Murray saga, where Chuck has tried to take him out from the Board. The 2 no longer talk and there is an uneasy truce. As Robert Redford was advised in All the Presidents Men , follow the money. Malcolm Murray will have been getting too close for comfort for Chuck. He will have followed the money and have seen the scam that’s been played.
It would not surprise me if guys like Malcolm Murray ( with Sally and the waistcoat informed ) are taking advantage of the whyte revelations to out Green and go with a plan b. There is no way Iain King Sports Editor of the Sun Is pushing this agenda unless the traditional ibrox men are on board.
It looks like there will be a new battle for the ibrox club in the summer. I have a feeling that Greens biggest challenge will come from Malcolm Murray and his plan B…..not Craig Whyte.
It’s could be as entertaining as last summer……and that had the Olympics !
17 in 30, just as well they have Matt le tissier available
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21799015
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It’s Kinda Weird seeing My House and Front Garden on CQN..
I wish I had Tided the Front Porch..【ツ】
Summa of WeirdSh^tCSC
Jinkynewton ,
Thoughts are with you and your nana and papa. Lost the last of my grandparents in 96 and still drive past her old place and think about dropping in for a cuppa.
You are what they and your parents made you. Say a prayer for her and know that you have the support of a great big family .
HH
Sanna
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdQuEpYK3as
Thanks sannabhoy
Life is so cruel
Jinkynewton
What sannabhoy says holds true, my friend.
Take it easy.
HH
More friendly text message between Chuckles and Googleyes
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/4877657/The-Blues-Brothers-Greens-Rangers-deal-text-to-Whyte.html
Could be a long week for Sevconians
ernie lynch
00:42 on
8 April, 2013
There was a prediction made about six months ago on The Rangers tax case by “someone” i believe to be a smart alex
Up un till now things have been fruitfully accurett ,one t or two not sure?.sure i will be corrected.
Charles Green and Cragie Whyte will have a fall out ..
A certain King who does not have the rights to own a bicycle in britain,never mind a car
will, front,a sir Walter raleigh burner ridden whyte horse into battle to save the down trodden ,Division three ,first trophy ,affronted ,red neckened , sevconian population from any more disgrace,(ridicule)__insert own definition…and bring them back from the death.
Awe naw no Annoni noo
You whacked it,you see the bigger picture..
In Lord Nimmo they trust and it will happen ,thats the reason they bury their heads, they know (Bob Marley ) cause every little things goin a be alright …eventually,
It will be took care of
All these stories in the press are deflection,and Lies
To think I thought next Xmas would be a dull anticlimax..