The seemingly chaotic life of the Scottish Football League chief executive, David Longmuir, appears more predictable after First Division clubs made their feelings on league reconstruction known. Significant amounts of trickle-down money is available from the SPL to second-tier clubs from next season if they vote to merge the league organisations, which is likely to result in an 18 team bottom league. Longmuir managed to put a spoke in the wheels of a considerable majority in favour of reconstruction but his hopes will be denied.
Three weeks ago we reported speculation that Longmuir aspired to a job at Newco Rangers. Yesterday he responded by saying, “I know there are different expressions of conspiracy going on but I don’t deal in conspiracy, I deal in fact and honesty”. You can bookmark that for future reference.
I predict that the conspiracy will soon merge with fact and honesty – if Newco can still afford to recruit next season.
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Club on a hidin’ to nothin’…………………….in scoddland…..and the peculiar scoddish mindset.
The Sleekits are at it………….
Auldheid
12:50 on 4 April, 2013
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What I’m driving at is…why don’t we just get rid of the board and pool all the fans money together and let the fans run the the club ? THEIR Club.
Obviously you can gather by now that…I’m not some sort of – corporate architect – as such but…I think that the club needs restructured. The PLC era will bite the dust, probably this season ? I somehow can’t see PL coming out and telling as about the balance-sheet this season. It’s OVER !!! Rip it up and start again! imo
Oh…one more thing…I’m not saying I hear this from you but..more billionaires than we can shake a stick at…why is there NO quality in any level of structure within the club ?
No quality on the bored / board – faceless wonders. imo
No quality in the dug-out. imo – Neil is the manager because the prospective choices of the board – wurny zipped-up the back.
No quality on the pitch apart from – Vic 67 and James Forrest imo
No quality in the youth set-up as we’ve brought through 2 Celtic quality players in 20 years
imo – McGeady and Forrest. Some say Maloney but..nahhh = always injured. imo
As I say…rip it up and start again.
The bored have had their chance and must be gotten rid off. imo
HH
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burghbhoy
12:22 on
4 April, 2013
Summa
To be fair the board have had since Feb 14th 2012 to comment on the cheating orcs
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I think Maybe I was Referring.. To Lenny’s latest FAC or was that FUC.. (The Clue was Demanding a Statement 20Mins. After the FACt.. Not 20 Months.. :-(
As For the Valentines Day Memorial.. If You don’t Realise Celtic FC played a Blinder by Letting .. Thems .. Self imploded.. And Not Helping Thems.. Along.. ie if Celtic FC were 1% to Nlame for Thems Downfall/ New Beginning.. Can You Imagine.. Can You..?
Summa of SilentWitnessCSC
Bawsman
12:55 on
4 April, 2013
I’m having to come around to your thinking that in spite of, nay because of, the hostility shown towards Celtic and official support for a crippled club by the governing body, the only way forward is to continue with that support in whatever way I can.
This season I did it via the Overseas Season Book and paid more than I needed to under the alternatives open to me. I’m hoping that the rationale behind the OSB will be extended to encompass some of the ideas behind the membership scheme that has been lying fallow (or maybe not as I’ve been away for 7 months).
This absurd separation of support and Board has its roots in the old antagonistic workers v management approach that bedevilled the country precisely because it was the job of management to oppose the work force and that of the work force to fight the management.
Celtic PLC are not a factory, they are an amalgamation of worker and management with a common goal – that Celtic flourish.
Both sides of the old table have to start thinking in modern terms with both making the best of the rich skills and competences that the total Celtic entity can draw on.
Bawsman
12:55 on 4 April, 2013
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It’s your prerogative M8 – to buy yer SB. Ghood luck.
I look at it another way…£600+ per season to watch
a team full of – free-transfers and players who were
wanted by no one else….hmmm – not for me.
Yer right about the huns destroying the game – I see it
going full-cycle back to what it was before the arrival of
beast – what with terracings again and 3-0’clock ko on
Saturday’s.
I know you mean weel for Celtic with yer SB’s etc…
but, I think the SB-era will fade out.
From a selfish point of view – I hope we see The Jungle
rebuilt with the GB in there :o)
Hail Hail n God Bless
I have to go
Off oot
Summa
I would be delighted if Celtic were thought to be responsible for the demise of Der Hun !!!
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bawsman
12:55 on 4 April, 2013
Post of the Day/Week/Month..
If You could Elaborate on this View it would Make a Great Article for the Next CQN Mag..
Well Said..
Summa of SadcoSevcoSeventiesCSC
From the legal guide:
“It is an offence for someone on foot as part of a group of two or more people to obstruct another person passing through a public place,”
Does this include orange parades, when you need to cross the road on a Saturday, in the city centre, or are they above the law.
Visited Esquire House, Anniesland, yesterday, first day of the real ale festival.
Chanced on CQNer TERRYMAC.
He told me that he had buried his mother in the last few days.
Always a time of great sorrow in any life, no matter what stage of our life we are at.
He told me that his mum was born in 1910 & died just short of her ONE HUNDRED & THIRD birthday.
What an innings !
Can you imagine the changes this remarkable woman has seen since her childhood days in the Irish speaking area of Gortahork in Donegal ?
I know you will be feeling a sense of loss today, Terry.
I’m also sure that you are a very proud son.
Rest in Peace, Brigid.
Ar dheis Dé go raibh a hanam.
The latest from Phil.
http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/the-save-sevco-campaign/
HH!!
Saint Stivs
12:42 on
4 April, 2013
Ah the welfare state debate.
Spongers the lot of them.
Meanwhile the queens household is on thirty six million this year.
Five million up.
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I would like to see an online petition asking whether Lizzie Windsor and assorted family will be subject to the “bedroom tax” given their status as welfare recipients?
Playing devils advocate, if PL turned up at FAC rally would the Green Brigade, and others, walk away as they accuse him of complicity with the police??
KevJungle – MURDO’s 30 yds Title Winning Boots 1979
13:05 on
4 April, 2013
The Celtic Board have a lot of corporate experience but you will see from my post to Bawsman that I favour using the total resource available to the club and finding ways of harnessing that resource.
The chances are that what emerges, once all the parties understand the constraints within which Celtic have to operate, will be a Board that follows simlar policies that the current Board do, although I for one might be less accepting or more willing to have a go at those constraints depending on what they were.
I’ve been chipping away with my own ideas and suggestions that would frankly have more chance of success if the Board/Celtic felt that the support I’m advocating they engage with differently were a bit less hostile and a bit more willing to see matters from the Board’s perspective.
With regard to quality I think ultimately that is down to wages at the end of the day and even when we unearth a diamond we cannot keep them. Even players who do not make it at Celtic make it at other clubs and without them raising their standards what would the opposition be like?
Celtic unfortunetaly or fortuneatly depending on one’s view, like all of us, must bloom where they are planted. Giving the hostile environment we have been planted in I reckon we have bloomed pretty well over our ongoing history.
I remember a time when the then current manager of the national team offered to a Celtic employee a job at a rival club.
I do not think that Celtic’s permission was sought but I am certain that the then current national team manager was still an employee of the SFA at the time.
The then curent national team manager is now a director at the holding company/club from which Sandaza has been sacked.
Just an observation.
Bawsman and Auldheid,
Excellent posts and sentiments.
The Us and Them attitude is so 1960s and, unfortunately led to the demise of many industries, through the refusal to work together, for the common good.
That it exists today, in the minds of some of our support, is an anachronistic absurdity.
I have posted before on my view that Celtic is a Trinity, or a three-legged milking stool, if you prefer.
The Board, the Playing Staff and the Support.
None more important than the other, but each vital to the Club.
Not to pull together is suicidal.
Put simpler, if one leg of the milking stool breaks off, you will fall on your arse.
Let’s make sure that doesn’t happen with the club.
I’ll add my name to list of people who renewed their season ticket BECAUSE Sevco were not fast tracked into the SPL. I actually held off till it was confirmed they would not be playing in the SPL at the vote.
Time and time again we hear that SPL fans vowed to pack their stadiums out if Sevco were not admitted. No they did not. They woved to stay away if they were admitted. An entirely different vow, yet the idiots in MMS seem to struggle to grasp that difference.
Even if crowds have dipped slightly, the decrease would be much more significant had the New club been slotted into the place of the Old Rangers.
Keevins, “DL” and the likes of this Kevjungle character may miss the “Rainjurs” but it’s time to accept they are gone.
Summa
In fact , could they hate us more ?
HH
Great article from Phil..
Auldheid
13:08 on
4 April, 2013
I think the club ARE looking at the bigger picture with sporting integrity as their watchword BUT I completely agree with you.
Many things could be done better.
I fail to understand how badly we fail to mine the huge pool of imaginative talent amongst our numbers,
You talk correctly of ” the old antagonistic workers v management approach”, we ARE still in that mindset, we need to grow up both on the supporters and board side, if we could tap into, and channel, our collective strengths, we could be massive.
There’s another story not being told in the MSM *SHOCK!!!*
I find it difficult to believe that we have had umpteen Tayside/Highland derby matches this season, we filled Pittodrie, Tynecastle and Easter Rd, only Man U and us had over 1 million fans through the gates before last November this has got to have been a mini – boom year for most clubs, 45,000 at the St. Mirren V Hearts league CF?
Every club chairman/manager has loved the competition this season, all to play for going into the split, what’s not to like but the MSM are programmed to think this won’t sell newspapers. They are dinosaurs and will go the same way.
Tallybhoy
13:19 on
4 April, 2013
Good article from Phil and just in time for the next club licensing round. The SFA have to be whiter than white on this one. To grant a club that enters an insolvency event once a licence is bad enough but to do it twice suggests the SFA are inacapable of thinking of Scottish football without The Rangers and in so doing are killing what they are supposed to protect.
hehehe – nice one Neil.
Celtic Football Club @celticfc now
NL: “But to put another title on the record of the club would be brilliant and thoroughly deserved.” (MH)
burghbhoy
the board will not drive fans away but the terrible football by our team will.
Bawsman
13:34 on
4 April, 2013
Auldheid
13:08 on
4 April, 2013
I think the club ARE looking at the bigger picture with sporting integrity as their watchword BUT I completely agree with you.
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I know they are (or someone’s been acting NOT speaking disingenously) and on the other point about doing things better, I’ll know more by the end of the month.
timhorton
13:38 on
4 April, 2013
No offence mate but you must be young if you think last 16 CL football and beating the best team on the planet is “Terrible”
;-)
Stringer Bell @11:36 would you like that vicious little thug to be rehabilitated in a house next door to you?
Saudi Arabian justice takes into account the victim.
It attributes responsibility.
2 features lost from our system.
There is a section of society in favour of burning Philpott & co. at the stake.
for the cabal that is scottish football establishment to bend/break rules to allow this new co in to scottish football required people to be complicit, silence in what has been going is
being complicit, silence allowed this to take place and whats more if the majority of fans from most clubs had not threatened to walk away the bending/breaking would have seen this new club enter at the very top of scottish professional football, no one from the governing bodies even thought this was wrong as why else attempt it, today they are still
trying to find a way to subvert and still the actual people who run clubs are silent, it is up to supporters to once again step in, the spl, sfa, are supposed to made up from the clubs,
did any club call for even one single resignation over all this farce? i think that answer will
show people who really is complicit and it certainly is not the supporters.
timhorton
I can live with temporary bad football and results, I cant live with the thought that those in temporary charge of our club would think more of ” OF” fc than the lifeblood of the club.(At this time I believe they are doing the right thing)although I would like them to say more I understand the position and environment they operate in.
When they have had to they have spoke but rest assured bad results wont drive me away from football ,betrayal would,(temporarily)
Bawsman
12:55 on
4 April, 2013
Superb – Deidco destroyed Scottish fitba and they were assisted by SFA & SPL
I will not attend games at Hampden until there is root and branch change -including a full revamp of match officials and how they are governed.
Also, totally agree that any attempt to parachute Sevco into higher league will see huge reductions in attendances everywhere. They might THINK things are tough now….Jeezo!! I don’t know one single fan anywhere that misses them..
Best wishes to all at George Square tomorrow – mind the tanks tho’ :-)
HH
There is a simple common denominator for all of the nonsense that is dividing the Celtic Support and the PLC Board. It works like this:
SPL/ SFL reconstruction. Why is it happening? What is causing the controversy? Answer: Sevco, their cash flow problems and the ‘establishments’ attempts to save them
The persecution of Celtic Supporters by the police and the new legislation to add fuel to this. Why? Where did it come from?
Answer: An attempt by the establishment (and this is a matter of public record) to ‘balance up’ the arrests for sectarian and offensive baheaviour at football matches because Rangers Oldco supporters were far and away the statistically most arrested and most offensive supporters. Sevco fans are going the same way.
At one time we argued over ‘net spend’ and the board not ‘speculating’ – this argument has largely gone as we all now prefer lower fees for better value players. But why did we used to get so worked up about it? Simples: Oldco Rangers outspending us.
So the common factor in all of our travails: Oldco and Newco Rangers.
And this troublesome crew have caused the same problems for every other Scottish Club. So the solution lies in the precedent they all set last summer: instead of following the money, follow the sporting integrity. Do what is best for the Scottish game and Scottish society with absolutely no reference to Sevco or for that matter Celtic other than as two member clubs of the SPL/ SFL/ SFA.
Der Hun used to love the word Dignity. I have always preferred Integrity. I’d like to see it as the motto for the Scottish game.
bawsman
no offence taken,thank you.
I will give you a hint re my age, I listened to the 1953 cup final on radio.
barca great result but football boring,tactics bang on.
juve football good, tactics very poor.
ok bawsman, the football in the spl has been poor very poor.
for the wages we are paying I expect a lot more.
I should add that a good friend of mine who runs his own business always says ‘do things properly in the first place and don’t worry about the money. the money will come if you do it properly.’
Scottish football should take note.
RobertTressell
I would love to see the word ‘Integrity’ added to the Celtic badge on the shirt – just as a GIRFUY.
It would shift a few shirts too…
Bawsman @13:41 your lazy reliance on the Barcelona trump card will not reverse the downward trend of season ticket sales. Or even slow it. The return of the “The Rangers” will.
The problem with this society is people are free to choose. Worse. They exercise that right. Even Celtic are free to vote.
Whatever is said about this season, our European campaign was based on a change of the qualifying criteria in our favour. For all the criticism of UEFA, our previous campaign rested on their enforcement of the rules.
Was chatting with my Dad this morning and our manager’s charging with misconduct came up. He was disgusted with the SFA. As he said (among a whole lot more), “who among those judging him doesn’t swear at a football match?”. He’s right, of course.
Longmuir was allowed to not answer the questions put to him on TV yesterday. The msm don’t want to rock any boats. It doesn’t really matter, as it looks as if thon deid team are headed for the rocks in any case.
JohnhumphriesCSC.
Stringer Bell – I wouldn’t want to live in Saudi Arabia, but it’s worth noting that the man has the option of either paying up or being crippled. They may be cruel, but they have given him the alternative of a financial penalty.
Saudi justice is rough justice, for sure, but i wish people would be a bit more horrified about barbarities closer to home, like the police and social services turning a blind eye to our excitingly multicultural child abuse gangs (quickly forgotten by the media after it turned out the safely deceased Jimmy Savile was a dirty old man), or the NHS killing thousands of people through neglect and nobody facing prosecution, or the fact that we abort 200,000 healthy babies a year in this country. (thumbsup)
By the way – see that ‘class’ quizz on the BBC – what nonsense. It seems to suggest that you can’t like culture, arts and leisure if you are working class.
I reckon that as long as you have no means of support outside of your work then you have to be working class. If you have to work for a living then how can you not be working class? Simples.
There may be variations on ‘working class’ but the idea of a ‘middle class’ made up of white collar workers is something of a nonsense. By hand or brain you have to work. If you earn a bit more or work in an office rather than a factory or foundry you might be enjoying better conditions but you are still a worker.
The invention of the idea of a ‘middle class’ was a stroke of genius by thise who wished to divide workers.
That is all.
RobertTressell – I agree. The whole thing was piffle and balderdash.
It said I was “technical middle class”, but I’ve always thought of myself as an elitist.
Time to privatise the BBC. (thumbsup)
Off to indulge in some decideldly working class activity. See ya’ll later.