Really pleased the Scottish Professional Football League have awarded the League Cup Final to Scotland’s largest football stadium, Celtic Park. We are now hosting the League and Scottish Cup finals, as well as the head of Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs, at the opening ceremony of the Commonwealth Games.
So with the Commonwealth and Scottish Cup gigs going to Celtic, why didn’t Newco Rangers get the other final at their 50,000 capacity facility?
Back in the days such certification existed, Ibrox was a Uefa five star venue, whereas Celtic Park was four star, but maintaining those standards takes, well, maintenance, which has not been a priority in some parts. Celtic Park remains highly functional, and safe.
There is also the hazard of planning an event, even six weeks out, at a venue owned (cough) by a company which does not have bank credit facilities and who are broadcasting financial distress signals like some kind of insolvency Batman call.
These perfectly valid reasons are, of course, a mere distraction from the real reason, the Co-op Bank, which controls Glasgow City Council, is also able to manipulate league football in Scotland and decided to award the final to their partner organisation, while cutting their borrowing rate, by way of compensation.
Issue 19 of CQN Magazine is fresh off the press, 104 pages of great stuff from the CQN community. 10 men won the league, Dam Justice, the Celtic Foundation, and Brogan Rogan outs the difficult questions to Pat Nevin about his Cup Final comments.
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*”Want to work for them”
Twists n turns…..
Nevin has experience as a Chief Exec. at a Hun club in administration.
Perfect candidate for another one perhaps?
I heard the Soup is good in the Executive Lounge at Castle Greyskull.
Ryecatcher
Indeed.
As Celtic man Billy Connolly said
” see yous peepul, hingings too good furr yous peepul, it’s a good kick up the arse yer needing”
Aye Rye
The succulent lamb days were really in the 90’s
Minty ruled the roost with borrowed money from his big banker pals in Edinburgh
Thankfully we started again from ground zero based on Mc Canns thin dime principles
The key to our success and their demise was always based on borrowing
Mc Cann made sure what we had was paid for
There would never be bank control over CFC ever again
Minty owed too much so much the banks they could never do a deal once it all went tits up with the bank crisis of 2008
Minty was looking for years for a way out
The deal was done with Craigy boy and the whole lot sold for a pound because that was the only option left to the so so proud Minty who once had a tenner for every Celtic fiver
It was the only way they could survive
Whither the cash strapped scrofulous hillbillies the day?
DBBIA
Where you been auld pal …
Antifa,
A gay marriage isn’t a marriage because the couple can’t procreate naturally? Utter sh**e.
Gay people and hetero people sign the same register and receive the same marriage certificate making it all legal.
Did Tommy Soladarrruuuttteeeeee Sheridan not do something similar to Pat Nevin years ago by declaring himself a fan of ‘ma mate Bully Davis’ team Murderwell’ ,as Celtic fans were too racist and sectarian for the one time Rainjurz target (as their first ever Catholic signing from Pollok with militant tendencies)?
Imagine my surprise when he pops up on Billy Nowell’s Desert Island Tims.
Born again Tim my erse!!
Pfayr, on a 4 week lie down.
Just a couple of wee points….
Pat Nevin and Rob McLean – smeared the reputation of the Celtic PLC ‘boreds’ customers, live on TV during the SCF which was being beamed to large number of countrys. Celtic PLC ‘bored’ let it be known that they’d sent a letter of complaint to some BBC complaints board or, sumthin like that. This was along the same lines as, the letter of complaint that was sent to the BBC about – refereeing decisions during the ‘honest-mistake’ campaign, designed to get Walters huns the CL money. The thing is….nobody within the Celtic hierarchy had, the balls to put their name to it. This at a time when the Celtic hierarchy had amongst their number, a former Govt cabinet minister. Now, if the above isny an indication to Celtic’s countless number of enemies that – the Celtic hierarchy are as much good as a, chocolate fire-guard – then what is ?
The hierarchy compunded the above felonies by, attending a Govt summit after the ‘shame-game’ on the basis of – having 3 players booked ???
To cut a long story short…the longer the Celtic ‘sheep’ keep paying these muppets to run their club…then the longer that, Celtic FC will be the Scottish establishments bitches. imho
Re : Interviews for the mag.
Why not get Fergus and ask him why he was paranoid about Brian Dempsey ?
And ask him if he feels that he was maybe just a wee bit TOO tight with the cash release to Tommy Burns(RIP)and, if he feels that his frugality was the reason for not stopping the huns getting 9 in a row ?
Why not get Gerry McNee and he’ll tell ye all that you need to know about ‘boreds’ selling-out the fans to the establishment ?(his mole is still there ye know) hmmm.
Why not get Mo Johnston and ask him how he felt about being used by the old ‘bored’ to win the SCF in 1989…then days later he was dumped. Did he join the huns to stick it right up the old ‘bored’ ?
Why not get one of the faceless wonders from the ‘bored’ and, ask them why they saw fit to ban Hugh Keevins and yet, couldny find it within themselves to be seen to be fighting, fire with fire re – Nevin and Mclean for the stuff above ?
Anyway – Off oot.
Top of the morning to you all from a still dark Fife.
Having promised myself that I wouldn’t mention the name Nevin again I start the day on the subject of his interview for CQN, which I have yet to read. I was more taken with his interview to the Justice Committee of the Scottish Parliament which to me confirmed my inital impression that his position on the reported misbehaviour of Celtic fans was contrived.
I will post some snippets from his evidence and the whole of his evidence which was given with Graham Spiers, and Dr Stuart Waiton is on my blog here:
http://www.saveourglen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Spiers-Waiton-and-Nevin.pdf
It is rendered text so can be cut and pasted.
Begining with Nevin’s odd opening statement to the Justice Committee:
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Nevin evidence to Justice Comm Columns 182 & 183
Pat Nevin: During the previous evidence
session, I was slightly surprised to hear some of
the witnesses say that we do not have a problem
and we should not bother being here at all—we
should all just go home. I strongly disagree with
that.
I agree that some clubs have had a problem
with accepting the degree of the problem that we
face just now. Historically, Rangers practised what
we could call religious apartheid until 1989, which
to me was very wrong. Over the past few years,
Rangers has addressed that and further problems,
arguably following the UEFA ruling, and the club
has spoken out about the problem, making
comments in the press and programme notes and
so on.
Graham Spiers talked about people being
dragged towards the legislation. I am slightly
disappointed in the attitude of some people in the
Celtic camp. I should say that I was a Celtic
supporter for 30-odd years. I was brought up in the
east end of Glasgow, in the Irish Catholic
diaspora, so there is no reason for me to be
biased or bigoted against Celtic in any way at all. I
supported Celtic for most of my life, but one day, I
found myself sitting in the stand with my son, who
had started to take an interest in football, hearing
the song “Ooh ah, up the RA”. I could not accept
bringing up my son alongside that, so I was driven
away from the club that I loved. I was very
disappointed about that.
Earlier someone asked what other organisations
have been brought in to talk to the clubs. Nil by
Mouth was one, and Celtic Football Club started
the bhoys against bigotry campaign, which I was
delighted with at the time because it was needed. I
am not convinced that the initiative has been
followed through for some time. During the past
few years, Celtic’s refusal to accept that there are
problems has disappointed me. Someone once
said to me that Celtic had the moral high ground
and has now lost it. I did not make that argument
myself, but I thought that it was interesting.
I am now in the position of feeling slightly
intimidated. A number of people within the Celtic
family—certainly, a number of supporters—emailed
the BBC to ask that I be sacked from my
job because, during a cup final, I suggested that I
was disappointed with the sectarian singing. That
became a semantic debate about what “sectarian”
means. The song went something like: “As a
young man, I’m going to join the IRA (provisional
wing)”. It offended me and I do not want to hear it
at a football ground. I was shocked and surprised
that Celtic Football Club and a great number of
fans complained to the BBC, because I expect to
hear them say that they do not want to hear that
sort of song at their ground. It is a football ground;
it should not be a political ground.
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The Nevin doth protest too much methinks.
England Cricket shoot themselves in the foot by stabbing Kevin Pietersen in the back.
I’ve been at a few test matches in the last few years and apart from the piss up he has been the ONLY player watching in that team and making it a great day oot,he really is that good to watch.Oh well,their loss is Indian Premier League gain,I suppose.
It’s like Henrik Larsson having an argument with the captain ( Boyd or Lambert) in the dressing room and getting kicked out for it.Small minds in English cricket selectors.
Love the sport but the idiots that govern it defy belief.
Perfect job for Doncaster and Ogilvie next as Regan has already been involved in Yorkshire cricket and was even worse at this than Scottish fitba.
For the avoidance of doubt of anyone on CQN.
Concise Oxford English Dictionary Definition:
Marriage(noun): The formal union of a man and a woman, typically as recognized by law, by which they become husband and wife.
Good morning friends from a wet and bleak East Kilbride. Very mild, though that might just be down to the fact that I mistakenly left the central heating on all night.
A big happy BURPDAY to jude2005 is neil lennon \o/, hope your day/year is all you and yours could wish for.
Gb
For those of you who are interested here is the Official transcript of all Nevin’s evidence to the Justice Comittee:
http://www.saveourglen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Official-transcript-of-Nevin-evidence-to-Justice-Committee-.pdf
Read it and marvel at the self-confessed talents of Pat the prescient who saw the “shame game” coming and was about to do a programme on it but was just too late.
Marvel at the “Untouchable’s”- like attack by Nevin, the nemesis of the Motherwell hooligans.
Catch your breath as our hero tells of his horror at our Clubs lack of action compared to Rangers brave moves to eradicate bigotry.
Hear how Pat single-handedly tackled racism from the Shed at Chelsea and how he was parachuted into Afganisthan to fight a bare knuckle battle with Osama bin Laden in a cave in the Torah Borra mountains…Eh well made the last bit up but you will get the gist when you read of Pat the powerful as told to the Justice Committee.
DBBIA –
Good to see you back. Hope the 4 week lie down wasn’t a literal explanation.
Nevin may have been duped but his participation in an exercise of unjust anti Celtic propaganda is undeniable. He knows it and has shirked an opportunity to apologise. I had no inolvement in the abuse which was apparently directed at him in the aftermath but have no hesitation in regreting such wrongdoing and stating how sorry I am to hear of it.
I have no problem with Nevin’s dislike of political singing but he seems to accept no responsibility for an event which led to a redefinition of sectarianism which equates religious hatred and racism with non-mainstream politics. For someone who stood in the jungle you might have expected him to distrust the wholly unqualified assertion that Celtic fans were singing sectarian songs. If he had chosen to take the opportunity to condemn political singing I would have disagreed but respected such comments. To tar Celtic fans as sectarian in the way he did is either abjectly naive or willing participation in a whataboutery agenda.
Pat Nevin knows his comments did not apply in the context they were made. He knows they caused significant offense and harm. That he makes no apology condemns him as a man who, despite no doubt deeply held principles, refuses to act in a principled way. I can’t respect such a man even if I’m very sorry for any abuse he suffered…
I read the PN interview. In a nutshell, the guy is a souptaker. There is no way that his Oldco equivalent, lets say Andy Gray, would give up supporting his childhood club, criticise their fans on live TV and tell then claim to be a new Hearts fan.
RyeCatcher
Agree with you re KP – he’s one of the very few players who you would go out of your way to make sure you seen his innings on the telly
As for the definition of ‘marriage’ from the COED – as you know, words change their meanings over the years in response to how they are generally used by people
so, if a different situation in the future becomes ‘recognised by law’ as a ‘marriage’, then you can expect to see the COED’s defintion alter accordingly
Surely PN claimed on TV that day that he was going to speak out against secterian singing whenever it occurred
Since i have not heard him do this, i wonder if that was the only time he did speak out
For me he is just another uncle tim, with his 30 pieces of silver and bowing his knee to the institution
Big Nan
I think I read previously that you had not read the CQN interview with Pat Nevin. I have and, if you haven’t I think you should. It appears to me that what he told BRTH re said Cup Final contradicts his submission to the Holyrood Committee. Not saying he dissembled, (remembered that from the Peter Wright affair) but he appears to have been economical with the truth, (ditto) in his submission before the Committee.
Wee Marco had a comfortable night bhoys. Hope to get up to see him in yorkhill tomorrow.
Dontbrattbakkinanger
Will you be visiting BBs before the game on Saturday, if so, I may see you there before the game.
Hail Hail Wee Marco
And happy birthday to Jude2005,
St Jude being a favourite St in praying too, for Wee Marco etc
Celtic Mac
08:05 on 6 February, 2014
Big Nan
I think I read previously that you had not read the CQN interview with Pat Nevin. I have and, if you haven’t I think you should. It appears to me that what he told BRTH re said Cup Final contradicts his submission to the Holyrood Committee. Not saying he dissembled, (remembered that from the Peter Wright affair) but he appears to have been economical with the truth, (ditto) in his submission before the Committee.
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I have previously read Nevin apparently contradicting himself and when there was a call on here for questions to him I made this point.
The contradiction I highlighted was in relation to a quote in a book entitled “We are Celtic” by Richard Purden.
From memory his location and in whose company he was in (when he experienced his Damascine conversion to Hibs) conflicted depending on what audience Pat was posturing to at the time.
I would make it clear that I never personalised my complaint to the BBC by singling out Nevin he was but a tool in the contrived process which saw a new defenition “political sectarianism”. This was a convenient forerunner to calls to extend the definition of what was criminal to take in “offensive behaviour” and the Act followed on. Not by accident but by design.
Who did it benefit? Those who wished to harm Celtic and drag their fans into similar numbers that should have been arrested under existing legislation. I.E. Rangers.
Celtic Mac
Here is the extract that I quoted on this site, which to me contradicted his other statements about when he saw the light and realised how evil Celtic were:
From “WE ARE CELTIC SUPPORTERS” By Richard Purden, pages 103 &104
Nevin recalls: ‘When I was in the directors’ box at Motherwell I heard the IRA chanting. Maybe I’m naive or I hadn’t been around for a while but I thought that had gone twenty years before. I was never into it. I’m not into the idea of killing people for a concept, I’ve never been that way inclined, so it came as a real punch in the face. Now that was purely travelling support, I couldn’t imagine a scene like that at Celtic Park. People are allowed to have their views but I couldn’t sit beside that. The Motherwell fans were singing some very dodgy stuff; I’m not backing them up. I’ve heard the Rangers fans sing some disgraceful things while I was there. A bit of me started to think: “I want to boo you down.” There was still a bit of a Celtic fan inside of me saying . . . this isn’t good enough; this isn’t Celtic. I was really angry and I still think the vast majority of Celtic fans would boo those responsible for it down, if that expression was an Irish traditional song, that’s fine. The problem is when it jumped from Irish traditional to sectarian and IRA chants . . . that’s an embarrassment. This was just about the time my son got into football, I was living in the east coast of Scotland by this time and he wants to start going to games. He loves Chelsea but he wants a Scottish team … by that point I thought it’s not going to be Celtic.’
Why is so much time being spent on CQN discussing Pat Nevin…..strange that we should give him such ‘attention’ …….
hun skelper
22:16 on
5 February, 2014
billy bhoy 05
22:11 on 5 February, 2014
It’s illegal to be gay in Russia unbelievably. The place is a shithole stuck in the dark ages a bit like ibrox ( the stadium not the place ) and the Huns
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What a stupid set of comments. Ignorant and thick.
john o’neil
08:25 on 6 February, 2014
So what you are saying is that those with equally as strong, but conflicting views to yours are ignorant and thick……..remember ” downtrodden man” ………. I’m assuming you have considered the UN statement ?
West Wales Celt
07:32 on
6 February, 2014
Nevin may have been duped but his participation in an exercise of unjust anti Celtic propaganda is undeniable.
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For me,that just about sums it all up.
An apology might have helped.
Nevertheless,the damage was done.
The UN? Those are the criminals who covered up extensive use of sex slaves by their peacekeepers in Bosnia during the war there. Don’t think they can be trusted much these days. Their soldiers raped underage girls who were trafficked for the sex industry.
It is not illegal to be gay in Russia.
John O’Neil
08:37 on
6 February, 2014
U.N.
Well said.
Mid`60s,Johnny O`Neil,teacher of Russian.Any relation?
Morning all. Is Craigy on the horizon?
John ONeil….
I think Stalin’s troops main motivation to get to Berlin before the Brits or the Yanks was for first dibs on the poor German women.
A disgusting army if ever there was.
Well done to BRTH and WC and all at CQN Mag for a fascinating couple of thousand words.
Well done to Pat Nevin too.
It is impossible to work in the media and please all of the Celtic support all of the time. Celtic fans generally have no time for ex celts who ork regularly in the mainstream broadcast channels.
Interestingly, the comments made by the ex celts working in the media which provoke such displeasure from fans on message boards are NOWHERE near as critical of the team and club as comments posted by Celtic fans on message boards.
Go figure.
For me, the good in Nevin massively outweighs the negatives.
Scotsman
Vincent Lunny: could investigate. Picture: SNS
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By ALAN CAMPBELL
CLAIMING it is almost certainly the tip of an iceberg, an East Lothian boys club have written to Scottish FA compliance officer Vincent Lunny to complain about the non-payment of compensation money allegedly owed by Hearts and Rangers.
Musselburgh Windsor FC, who celebrated their 60th anniversary last year, say they have taken the stance to alert boys clubs throughout Scotland that they are due thousands of pounds by professional clubs. Their own complaint relates to an under-15 goalkeeper who joined Hearts, and two younger outfield players who were released to join Rangers.
Club president Scott Robertson says his club is spending more money pursuing the complaint than it will actually get if Hearts and Rangers are forced to pay up. That is because boys clubs are due just £10 every time a senior club takes one of their registered players – a situation Robertson describes as “disgraceful”.
As some 2,700 boys, from the age of ten upwards, are registered with senior clubs, boys clubs are frequently plundered for their best players. The compensation is set at £10. Yet, within the senior system, clubs can demand between £600 and £15,000 for a boy who wants to switch to another team.
Explaining why Musselburgh Windsor have decided to take a stand about the £10 the club say is owed to them by Hearts, and £20 by Rangers, Robertson said: “To be due just £10 for a promising player we have probably nurtured for many years is bad enough.
“For that sum not to be paid, and for us to have to spend time and resources pursuing it, is really adding insult to injury.
“Since the compensation rule – known as the training fund contribution – was introduced by the SFA in 2006, it has been almost completely ignored by the professional clubs. There must be hundreds and hundreds of cases of non-payments to boys clubs.
“I came across the rule completely by accident – I don’t think other boys clubs are even aware they are due money from professional clubs who have taken their players since 2006.
“The onus is on the pro clubs to make the payments to the Scottish Youth Football Association – who should then redistribute the money to the relevant boys clubs. I don’t blame the SYFA or the SFA for this. It’s the clubs who haven’t been making the payments.”
Musselburgh Windsor, for whom former Scotland striker Kenny Miller once played, believe that, not only should the senior clubs pay all the compensation the are due – which could run into thousands of pounds – but that the £10 should be replaced by something more realistic.
“Boys clubs are facing escalating costs for facilities, kit and mandatory SFA coaching courses,” Robertson pointed out. “Sponsorship is tailing off and some clubs are really struggling to make ends meet.
“Yet, despite increasing difficulties, and the fact that almost every boy in Scotland starts his football career with one of our clubs, there is no money trickling back down from the top.
“What you have to bear in mind is that, once a boy is taken from us and joins a professional club, he can be subject to what has been described as a ‘children’s transfer market’. The senior clubs receive sums of between £600 and £15,000 when boys as young as 11 move between clubs.
“Meanwhile we get £10 – or not as has been the case. That figure is far too low. If it was even raised to £50 it might make the senior clubs think twice about signing so many of our players.
“At the moment they are like kids in a sweet shop. They pick and choose our best players and take as many as they want.
“The reason our club has made a complaint to the SFA’s compliance officer is because we want to make all boys clubs aware that they haven’t been receiving the payments they are due – paltry though they are.
“We believe all the money owed to the boys clubs should be paid retrospectively. A debt is a debt, whether it’s owed for a week or seven years.”
Last night an SFA spokesman said: “We cannot comment until such time as a notice of complaint has been issued. However, the compliance officer does investigate all matters referred to him to determine whether there is a case to answer.”