Celtic Quick News fully supports the decision by the Supporters’ Association Executive Committee to ask an Emergency Delegates Meeting to vote on whether to selectively boycott clubs which vote for a Newco to be admitted directly into the SPL next season.
We discussed the idea of a boycott on this basis towards the end of last season. It appears the only appropriate action if our ‘sport’ can be subjugated for financial ends.
I am sure Celtic fans will not be the only ones considering a boycott. If Newco gains access to the SPL next season there is likely to be a schism between supporters of clubs who opposed the move and those clubs who vote for Newco, despite the wishes of their own supporters.
Kilmarnock might be able to look forward to lower costs for stewarding and turnstile operators, from their own support as well as others. Still, they would be able to open more than one stand when Newco visit.
What a great five days Walter Smith had. His attempts to buy assets from Rangers administrators failed, sigh, but he managed to undermine the guys trying to sell tickets to Ibrox next season, so it wasn’t a complete waste of time. Legned.
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ernie
I get the impression that several of those who will be voting are quite familiar with conducting meetings in secret.
Cadizzy
No, that’s my worry also.
row z
I think you need some additional tuition in the art and skills of reading for information :-)
Voting for secrecy?
Would that need to be 7:5, 8:4, 11:1 or unanimous. What if it’s a simple majority? What if it’s 6:6? Who gets a casting vote (don’t say fly man)?
So many permutations, so little time.
Maybe only the masons should vote secretly?
HH
For every fiver we spend, Charles Green’s Ersatz Rangers will beg for 5p. (thumbsup)
Wonky –
What happens to the dead clubs cups in the trophy room at Ibrox?
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Just like Harry Potter they are the Horcrux’s of SDM and must be destroyed lest he returns in another form of the Dark lord ;-)
Afternoon Celts,
If there is a vote on the 4th July, how the hell can an organisation in the process of liquidation, with no stadium, players etc have a vote on who gets their share?
Crazy even to be talking about it.
HH
Malorbhoy…could be..could be!
HH
Hamiltontim
Are you offering your services after hours or even during hours given you’re posting during the day? Will it be Janet and John go marching cause they’re pure ragin’ by the way…..?
James Forrest
The Celtic Supporters Association has not thought this through. You are correct in everything you say in relation to a yes vote, the SPL will vote itself into oblivion if it admits Rangers in any form. Oblivion! No need therefore for the CSA to formalise its’ position, ahead of the vote, when in fact it is shared by virtually every Celtic supporter, and the vast majority of the Scottish footballing public. Let us assume, for the sake of argument, that the SPL votes, in some kind of secret ballot, to admit a New Company, what would the CSA do next? Demand, Ali McCoist style, that those who voted yes be named? That would be next logical step. Let us stop thinking like the Old Firm!
Why would Doncaster have a vote or say at all?..he doesnt own a share in the SPL,essentially he is just an administrator.
anche gli angeli on 20 June, 2012 at 16:13 said:
Any auld hauns remember a Celtic Morton league game at CP in May 1969 just after we had gubbed the Huns 4 -0 in the SCF to win our 2nd treble.. I remember it was a Friday night ? and we paraded the 3 trophies and then got pumped 4-1 by a very good Morton side.
It was my first ever game as a 5 year old schoolboy. My Dad took me and my brother as a treat for Celtic winning the cup. It was a Monday night, 4-2. Morton, I think were 4-0 up at one point. I rember the trophies being displayed on a table in the middle of the park. Also Celtic were in all green.
James F
You’re feelings on this are evident but do you think it fair that Celtic supporters who don’t attend away games should be dictating to those who do attend regarding a boycott?
the rest of Scottish football doesn’t really like Celtic or the dead Huns so having the CSA officially threaten them is counter productive.
but I don’t believe Charles Green is in any position to produce a football team so this big vote is IMO a red herring anyway.
Celtic Mac,
whilst the clubs continue to use a financial argument, then the CSA has the same right to nulify that argument.
If clubs have to be “encouraged” to vote with integrity, then the ba’s burst.
At face value, the CSA’s resolution for discussion seems reasonable.
However, it does imply a threat, no matter how justified.
Perhaps, as suggested, a better approach would be to accentuate ways in which clubs could be compensated by the Celtic pound, to miyigate against any perceived losses.
*mitigate.
row z
I think we may need to begin with Rosie and Jim for you!! :-)
What if on the day sumbdy challenged the thems right to vote? Would we need a vote on that? Would that be secret? What would be the ratio? Do the thems get to vote on whether they’re allowed to vote on having a vote?
How many votes (secret or no) will it take to tip Dungcaster over the edge?
Would that be regarded as assisted suicide (votive) and could any of the secret voters be charged?
Paul McConville has a duty to review this and give us some random thought.
HH
johann murdoch on 20 June, 2012 at 17:12 said:
Why would Doncaster have a vote or say at all?..he doesnt own a share in the SPL,essentially he is just an administrator.
point being everything he has said has been at the behest of his employers, including the Celtic board
hamiltontim:
I wouldn’t presume to dictate anything to anyone. I am stating a personal opinion. A harsh one, but that’s all it is.
I understand the wrench these guys feel. I know how my old man will feel not going to these guys. He’ll climb the walls, and me with him as a result haha.
But I have no doubt – none – that he will follow through.
Hamiltontim
Awe Naw. No Kane and Deane please. Toooooooooo much dialectic rhetoric will make me lose interest and watch oot the windae, just like schooldays.
HH
These games … Jesus, my fingers and brain are not syncing well today at all.
(If they ever do haha.)
Malorbhoy on 20 June, 2012 at 16:30 said:
Arty
I noticed in one of your posts that you lived just over the border would that me a CA post code or further South?
Na! Geeoordie lawned, lad! EE aye awa the na. Mind you at times it can feel like Govan. I keep telling myself I am only visiting but i cannot get the train fare together for the return. The total disregard they have for us is, to say the least mind-boggling. I live next to smashing lad or is it just he has a doll of a wife? Anyway, I like having a bit of banter with him and as I have no interest in the Euros now that Ireland has gone, I thought a wee word on Hodgeson’s ‘greatest team’ would keep us talking till his wife came home. He bedecks the house with King Goergy flags and all sorts of other sad paraphernalia so I told him was keeping an eye out for the vandals that were messing up his front. I am afraid the response was – DAAAA, blank face!! I got a similar response when I dropped ‘them’ and Murray into the conversation. It just went so far right over his head it nearly hit a scud missile from HMRC. They are absolutely oblivious and totally disinterested that a football club has been so destructive. To be fair, maybe it is because it is not in Engerlandia. It is their only interest even to the extent that he did not even recognise my blasting of Hodgkin’s negativity as insulting. Gave up then and besides his wife arrived so was completely distracted – and dumbstruck! Anyway, if you were looking to get together, I am sorry but I have my eye on a n other and in all honesty, I am far too old for you. People would talk, believe me! Nice to have the craic with you mind. You just never know!
H H
Saint Stivs on 20 June, 2012 at 16:50 said:
Don’t know if anyone’s mentioned yet, but looks like our first qualifier (Champions’ Round 3) will be against one of:
Sheriff Tiraspol ** Mol
DVSC Debrecen ** Hun
Our old friends NK Maribor ** Slo
FK Ventspils ** Lat
Slovan Liberec ** Cze
Slask Wroclaw ** Pol
HJK Helsinki ** Fin
AEL Limassol ** Cyp
Ekranas Panevezys ** Lit
FC Zestafoni ** Geo
Then in the next round it could be any of those ten, plus the following five:
Dinamo Zagreb ** Cro
CFR Cluj *3 Rom
MSK Zilina ** Svk
Partizan Belgrade ** Srb
Helsingborg IF ** Swe
BertKassiesCSC
I think I remember CG saying that any ST monies will be in an account that he and D&D would not have access to .
Who would have access to this account ?…..I wonder .
TICKETUSSCS
P.S. The asterisks are because I copied directly from Bert’s site. They do not denote the number of tainted titles soon to be removed from each team.
I’m not convinced that the word “boycott” is helpful here.
The principle is simply that no potential customers are obliged to buy products that they don’t want to buy, for whatever reason.
The product itself might be considered to be downright undesirable; or there may be a customer perception that there is better value for money in another product altogether; or the customers may feel that there are some businesses whose ethics deserve more support than other ones. The decision about what to buy, and from whom, belongs entirely to the customer.
It’s up to the seller to appeal to the customer and that appeal is not limited to the value of an individual product.
James F
Your reference to Celtic supporters who continue to go away from home as ‘mugs’ goes beyond harsh in my opinion.
I think that the decision on whether boycotts take place should be taken by those supporters, including your old man, who have paid to follow Celtic away in the recent past.
With respect I don’t believe that you fall into that category.
James Forrest is Neil Lennon! We are ALL Neil Lennon! on 20 June, 2012 at 16:37 said:
Amen! May my God be with you, my friend.
H H
hamiltontim – Are Rosie and Jim still bobbing along on the Old Rag Doll?
We may need to call in hauners from Simon and the Witch, T-Bag, Grotbags, and Mr Majeika.
On another note, was 80’s children’s TV mainly about witches and rag dolls (or raggy dolls), or have I been freebasing on tippex again? (thumbsup)
Neil Canamalar
The CSA is not a club, it is an association. It is governed by its’ own articles, it needs to be careful not to act outwith them. Let the SPL decide what kind of organisation it wants to be seen as. If it chooses to promote itself as a corrupt league then, it should not be boycotted, it should be disbanded!
row z
If you bring me an apple then we have a deal?! :-)
Anyone who freebases on tippex is a fool and is just showing off to make himself look big
Vote no to the tippex freebasers
Philvis
Sadly Rosie and Jim would probably be partaking in narcotics and throwing their car keys in a punch bowl were they still around.
Huns’ creditors’ report from last week:
http://www.rangers.co.uk/staticFiles/37/b5/0,,5~177463,00.pdf
\o/ byrney86 is Lenney71 \o/ on 20 June, 2012 at 17:20 said:
cheers bud.
i really hope we are prepared prepared, and prepared.
surely we can navigate our way to the group stages if we get the prep right.
selfish draw – any team thats not in their season allready, and not the other side of europe.
happy days .
Re the CSA and RST boycott calls .
If the SFA/SPL had told ragers at the off that any new club would have to apply to join Scottish football at the bottom ,we would not be having this argument .
PURE AND SIMPLE .
Instead with all their delaying of punishments for the range of rule breaches by ragers and their utterly pathetic attempts to get Triggers broom FC back into the SPL ,they have brought us to where we are .
At this rate THE CHEATS CHARTER will have more chapters than the HELLS ANGELS
hail hail
It looks like Neil.. didnae disappoint me, tae Ma
everlastin’ Dee Ee Lite!
Hugo, is NO oan Neil Wanted List.. after Awe.
Guid fur You, Neil!
Noo.. Ah wull noo ask if this Guy Is.
Rocky Rhodes..
This Kid …is a Brammer.. he wid Tear up the S.P.L.!
He wid score at least. Fifty Goals. a season,up here in the Boonies..
The Guy,is THAT GOOD!
Go get him Neil..
Four Million? That wid be the Bargain o’ the Century!
Kojo
Still, Laughin’ .. of Course!