Celtic Quick News fully supports the decision by the Supporters’ Association Executive Committee to ask an Emergency Delegates Meeting to vote on whether to selectively boycott clubs which vote for a Newco to be admitted directly into the SPL next season.
We discussed the idea of a boycott on this basis towards the end of last season. It appears the only appropriate action if our ‘sport’ can be subjugated for financial ends.
I am sure Celtic fans will not be the only ones considering a boycott. If Newco gains access to the SPL next season there is likely to be a schism between supporters of clubs who opposed the move and those clubs who vote for Newco, despite the wishes of their own supporters.
Kilmarnock might be able to look forward to lower costs for stewarding and turnstile operators, from their own support as well as others. Still, they would be able to open more than one stand when Newco visit.
What a great five days Walter Smith had. His attempts to buy assets from Rangers administrators failed, sigh, but he managed to undermine the guys trying to sell tickets to Ibrox next season, so it wasn’t a complete waste of time. Legned.
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Sone on the BBC site:
Aluko was born in Birmingham to Nigerian parents and played for England at under-19 level.
He switched nationality to make his debut for the Super Eagles in a friendly against Republic of Ireland in 2009 and has since played for the Nigeria U-20 and U-23s.
“I chose Nigeria because my heart said I want to play for Nigeria.
Sone, son, WE understand that, but those “great Rankers fans” you’re always on about, can THEY get their heads round that sort of thinking?
Celtic Mac,
EH
the CSA are discussing the best strategy to convince other clubs their financial arguments are easily countered.
Hamiltontim
ffs they’re about £800 a pop. Should be able to ‘acquire’ one tonight tho’. That’s about £100’s worth of gear though!
Do I just call network cabs for an appointment?
HH
St Stivs- does right prep include a lot of daft friendlies in remote parts of the globe?
Sheriff Tiraspol
Get in there
Please please please let it be Sheriff.
Do not forsake me oh my darlin’
U Hah! Varmints
Suffrin’ Succotash!
U
Hah
again, tee hee – stupid huns
Monaghan
HMRC 94,426,217.22
Just in case someone is toting up opinions, I stopped going to away games long ago but didn’t preach to the enthusiastic, to my eyes, feeding a bent system. If the Huns are voted back in, I’ll stick with the season ticket games but Scottish, cup games will be out, even at home. I’m sure lots of other supporters will make some gesture too but wouldn’t like it to be formalised into a boycot though. What if Kilmarnock and St Mirren vote the Neewco in but practically none of their fans show up for the first games of the season?
How long are the CSA advocating the boycott lasts?
I trust that the CSA are advocating that the Celtic support do not attend any matches at Ibrox as part of this boycott?I mean it would be ridiculous for us to still give the team who has created all these problems, our money.
If so ,this means that they are advocating that the Celtic support should turn there backs on the team when we play away to Zombierangers2012.
If the CSA have thought this through,then whoever is doing the thinking is off beam.
TT
I have a newly knittit cardy and also own a shredding machine (wink wink). I’d be honoured to provide my legnedary servives to Club 12 for free.
Thou mad minions that doth blindly tesserate outside thy Dungeon of Doom are not but a flea routed menagarie of obsinate knaves persevering in futility. Go home to
thy scanty toothless wenches & thy meager wine for thine club is naught but knicker fluff upon the rump crack of Karma’s bounteous booty- thy nullified, insubstantial, spectred club is a diseased phantom; the sterile harvest of a Scottish hacks pitiable fatuity, but a worthless bauble floating in a sea of excrement- Thou’st scurvied intellect must not be unedified still more byvall this we are the people fingle fangle. Forget thy bijou trophy room, bared as it will be for scrap lolly, forget thou wrathful rabble of confused legends who clitch straws to the very nub, these are but errant paladins…so go thy frothy slavering cadgers, that resemble dozy bears hibernating in denial, sympose in thy mammy’s house instead, in some erstwhile scrufulous sally-port, loitering, rucking, in some vile backward Scottish steppe…& liberate our Celtic gaze from thy most offensive presence.
TT,
like everybody else you have jumped to a conclusion, the CSA are discussing their options, boycott is just one and a good one to illustrate the nonesense financial arguments the msm and clubs are trying to promote.
row z
Put it on my account….
TimsinOhio on 20 June, 2012 at 16:28
Just phoned customer service about my away top order , told there was a problem with the online supplier . I ask if I could pick up the top in store and cancel the online order , she said this would be ok .
Appreciate this won’t help you if your not in uk .
Hail Hail
Dundee utd announce they have sold 1700 seaon books. Same time last year it was 4300. Down £600k.
Clubs better be getting the message.
To be honest i am personally thoroughly sick of all the oldco newco pash, they have dragged Scottish football through the mire, the arrogance and audacity of the club formally known as RFC is astounding.
I just want them gone, no mercy just gone, any fair minded sane person would look at the misdeeds they have committed and get rid of them toot sweet.
Most of the lobbying is going on behind closed doors we only hear snippets and spin in the press or leaked information that is trying to grab the news agenda one way or the other.
Scottish football instead of dealing with the real issues effecting the vast majority of football supporters are burying there heads in the sand trying to come up with a “get out of jail free card” to get newco back into the SPHell.
They should be looking at a number of things, beginning with pricing, i will not be attending most away games next season, not because i dont want to go, because i do want to go, but the prices are way way to expensive, £24 – £38 for most matches, and £40 odd for the now dead hun, at least we wont be asked to pay that.
I cannot afford that, and i want most of my disposable spend to go direct on Celtic.
The criminalisation of football supporters should be challenged by the SFA/SPL we are the life blood of the game.
Standing areas in grounds, again should the governing bodies not be looking and expediting that process, it’s what the fans want not just us, all supporters.
League reconstruction, a considered look at what proposals the fans want, not just what serves the SPL, most supporters want a revamp of the game, we dont have all the answers but the SFA should be leading that, not looking at a process that is being fast tracked to minimize the consequences to Dodo FC.
Kick off times, no more 12 noon kick offs in Inverness or Dingwall, you can bet your bottom dollar that the 2 early season visits up north will be early kick offs, again its Joe public that suffers, maybe the Sky deal that everyone says wont be signed will be a good thing in the respect we can tell them to stuff these ridiculous start times.
BlantyreKev, great post earlier, thought provoking a lot of thinks to debate in it.
Someone on the last blog posted that McGowan got Sami’s shirt after the last game of the season at Celtic Park, that is categorically not true, a member of our supporters club got it after he gave Sami the Greek flag prior to parading the SPL trophy, Sami came back after a lap of the park and gave him said shirt, he also got Zaluska’s.
So its about time we looked at the real issues effecting football fans in Scotland, there has been so much time and energy spent on Dodo FC its doing ma nut in, i surely cannot be the only one that feels like that, begone beasts, just begone!
gebhoy
Does embdy take this guy seriously any more…..
Chris McLaughlin @BBCchrismclaug
Two Glasgow businessmen are preparing an £11 million pound bid to take control of #Rangers. More to follow at http://bbc.co.uk/sportscotland
leftclicktic on 20 June, 2012 at 17:35 said:
Monaghan
HMRC 94,426,217.22
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That was the figure which interested me, Leftclick. If they have voting rights in that sum, do we have a decision in the BTC?
It’s nice of the CSA to make it easy for SPL chairmen to do the right thing. I’m sure in their hearts they’ve always wanted to but they’ve been scared of the financial outcome. Well now its going to be at least as bad either way. So they can do what they know is right.
My dear,dear,dear,friend.. Gebhoy @17.46
Hiya,Pally?
Where hiv ye Been..old. Bean?
Long time etc..
Ah agree , wi ‘ ye,pal
Ah am fed up tae the uppers.. and lowers.. wi’ this
F.G.A. Business.
Time .. Fur a . Time Out!..
Tak a Breather.. Furget aboot them ..
Noo..
Who Wull we sign?
That tae Me.. is where Ma Curiosity Lies..no in .. Whit wull be the Future of. The . F.G.A.
God has Already. Taken Care o’ THAT!
Like Ah Hiv said fur years..
Ach. never mind whit Ah hiv said. fur Years..
The Main Thing..
We are the Champions..and the F. G.A. urnae!
Fuggggetttttttttttttabooooooot Them!
Kojo
Yer pal..who likes ye aloater
Still, Laughin’… of Course!
HMRC 94,426,217.22
To have that sum in the creditors lists suggest that Duff and Phelps know exactly what the outcome of the BTC is and the liability associated with it.
Maybe some of the legal minds would be able to say with certainty whether or not the Duffers could have included that in the creditors list without it being 100% correct, i.e. the BTC has found in favor of HMRC and the liability from that and Whyte’s mess amounts to the £94,426,217.22 sum?
Another thing Dodo FC are walking away from debts totaling nearly £125 million that is astounding by any means.
gebhoy
hamiltontim:
I get really cheesed off with this assertion that, because I’ve had couple of years when because of work situations etc I haven’t been able to attend games regularly that makes me less a Celtic fan and less entitled to an opinion than those who’ve had the good fortune to be able to, and afford to, attend every match.
I’m done explaining, and justifying, that here and elsewhere.
You might think it is harsh. Indeed, you may choose to lend financial support to those clubs which have made a mockery of our league. That is a personal choice for you, as I have made personal choices of my own.
I cannot think anything of those people than they are daft for continuing to sponsor and finance the very people who have destroyed football in this country. I know full well why I have made some of the decisions I have, in following (or not) Celtic. I can see no logic at all in putting money in the pockets of people who are taking a great big dump on our club, our fans, indeed even the wishes of their own support.
We owe these people NOTHING. To say you are not helping them but supporting our team is a fallacy, because they will never show us the proper respect if we continue to bow to that logic.
This sounds terribly arrogant, and I know there are people who will say I am bowing into the Land of the Hun by using the word “respect” in that context; but I know this. We are now the strongest club in the land, by miles. How we use that strength is what matters … but that strength should be respected.
Pascal, when he spoke of respect, said “Law without force is impotent.” The SPL and SFA have abrogated their own responsibilities and made the entire game hostage to the whims of eleven chairman who will put self interest first. The fans of their own clubs have already played their cards. I think it is right and fitting that our own supporters have played their card.
Using strength to bully and harrass, as the Hun has done time and again, is using strength for your own sake, and for its own sake. Using strength to keep these people on the straight and narrow, and to inform them that their actions will have wide-ranging consequences, might tip the balance between and prevent these people taking a decision with an appalling aftermath.
We can only transform the Scottish game – for the betterment of everyone in it – if we use our present position of strength. Asking other clubs to acknowledge and respect our strong hand is not arrogance … is it necessary if we are to be taken seriously when we take the lead in making the changes happen.
For that to happen, clubs need to be very clear; the Celtic supporters are not sheep to be treated as mugs.
canamalar
I am not jumping to any conclusions.
I have put a question mark after my comments ,because i am unsure what the exact CSA statement is .
TT
Not sure if this has been brought up already but surely a closed ballot on the vote could go against the other clubs?
I’m basing this on the fact that the Hun support have always said they will boycott any clubs who votes against them.
So if they were to get voted back on the slimmest margin then they wouldn’t know who to boycott.
You could find they just boycott everyone and then what have the other clubs gained.
Also at present Club 12 ain’t even got any guaranteed season ticket holders themselves so they cannot guarantee squat!
The Sky deal is safe, so this doesn’t help their cause and the other clubs might even find themselves coming into the reckoning for European places or even the cups, so no gain there either.
In fact the more you think about it there is very little to like about allowing Club 12 in.
Just a thought!
HH
/Bishop B
Paul67
Good lead, but I have my doubts on the CSA statement and its content, which of course should have been unnecessary, just like the voting process itself.
It’s Celtic FC/PLC/the Board not the Celtic Support who should have influence over the other SPL Clubs, because instinctively Celtic are the no vote, and we shouldn’t need our Supporters to tell anyone that, or that they will boycott away grounds.
It’s the fact that there is to be a vote, that’s wrong, even if natural justice and the right outcome is achieved.
Monaghan
notes
the claim of HMRC is admitted to vote in full but £72,786,534.91 of the claim is marked ’objected to’ by the Chairman of the Meeting.
the claims of Ticketus LLP and Ticketus 2 LLP are admitted to vote in full but marked ’objected to’ in their entirety
Dontbrattbakkinanger on 20 June, 2012 at 16:15 said:
Knoxy -I see the Ireland supporters auctioned the famous ‘Mrs Merkel Thinks We’re Working’ banner for a child with neuroblastoma- anything to do with Oscar?
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Yes mate thats my wee lad! It was to be auctioned yesterday morning, but it was getting so much publicity it has been held off until tomorrow morning. The auction will be on Tubridy’s show on RTE 2fm 9-11am so listen in if you can! The flag is signed by the team so hopefully it fetches a lot of money. The guys offered it to Oscar, but we decided half of it should go to their main kids Cancer unit in Dublin, Our Ladys Childrens Hospital.
All donations to Oscar’s appeal are greatly appreciated everyone. We really need to get him this immunotherapy or unfortunately this cancer will probably kill him. With the immunotherapy he has a great chance of growing up and having a chance at life.
His appeal is with a registered charity so if any of you are taking part in any fundraising events please consider doing them for Oscar. Individual donations are brilliant but someone organising an event eg a fun run or 10k run for example can raise hundreds if not thousands of pounds.
His JustGiving page is at http://www.justgiving.com/oscarappeal
Really looking forward to the Merkel guys getting here! The BBC have organised it and with a bit of luck there will be a piece on BBC breakfast in the morning!!!!! (national news)
:-)
Knoxy
You would think that Dundee united would be saying NO, and pushing for Dundee to be signed up for the SPL.
Get the Dundee Derby back, but then again, how many Dundee fans will pay for the hosp boxes, and want to take tickets for the main stand and behind the goals!
James Forrest
Those that think thar buying a ST makes you a better supporter are of the moronic variety be rest assured. I bet you see more games than DD.
HH
No Scottish football clubs listed as creditors?? No Rapide Vienna??
Have the Scottish clubs been paid off and if so was this via the ‘bonus pot’?
Is there a way to find out?
HH
Enter Stage left the latest Hunfunders who didn’t want to flash their wad when it would have kept 1872 alive.
So many hyenas and only one corpse!
I can see this getting nasty ;-)
HH
ToneLoc and Dublinbhoy, thank you!!!!!
Kojo,
Hope you are well after your sojourn to the hospital, dont post any where near as much as i used to, there are some absolutely superlative contributors on this blog, Brogan/Hogan, Barcabhoy, James Forrest, Auldhied, Rogue Leader, Kitalba, Tiny Tim, Ernie Lynch, even Philvusreturns to name but a few, i might not always agree with what they post but they are great assets for the blog, on the night shift you have Maggie McGill and Canamalar who are a bit maverick but just as important.
There are far more excellent posters as well who i fail to mention but those are probably the ones i stop to read….its a shame at times you have had to trawl through pages of gash to find them, but i suppose that’s what blogging is.
At times the blog can be hard work (songs/poppy debates) although subjects that should be debated they can be emotive and can lead too to much fighting for my liking and too many middle voices are not heard.
During the season the highs and lows on here are unbelievable, one defeat and it’s catastrophe, one win and we are world beaters.
But i would not change it for the world, Paul67 deserves all the praise he receives for creating this blog, i just choose to lurk a lot more these days.
Anyways how is Vegas? You still staying away from those Casino’s?
gebhoy, who still very much yer pal!!!!
TT,
“How long are the CSA advocating the boycott lasts?”
is a conclusion, regardlss of how you want to twist it, thay cannot determine a timescale until they have decided to take the action.
Your question has the action already in place, to be looking for a timescale.
Whether the vote is open or in secret I strongly suspect that all members will be mandated to NOT REVEAL individual votes in any way shape or form.
They’ll probably have a vote on that first! ;-)
HH
James F
I’m afraid I was getting ready and have just seen your post addressed to me but haven’t had to time to read it.
Need to go out now but will respond later tonight when I get home.
big drum roll please,
entrance stage left, a cicus announcer ………
“and we are proud to announce our Casino Complex”
taaaa rrrrraaa
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4264114.stm
Normally I wouldn’t put something like this up – but has anyone else seen this from Ratboy Novo??
http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l524/Kingkenny1/518e5c63.jpg
Absolutely disgusting
No surprise that there are a few groups looking to pick over the bones of the dead club. No one wanted to touch them with the debt or to be the ones to kill them off – but Sevco is a whole new ball game.
There is a lot still to happen in this farce. Craig Whyte and Ticketus have been very quiet recently.