Celtic Quick News fully supports the decision by the Supporters’ Association Executive Committee to ask an Emergency Delegates Meeting to vote on whether to selectively boycott clubs which vote for a Newco to be admitted directly into the SPL next season.
We discussed the idea of a boycott on this basis towards the end of last season. It appears the only appropriate action if our ‘sport’ can be subjugated for financial ends.
I am sure Celtic fans will not be the only ones considering a boycott. If Newco gains access to the SPL next season there is likely to be a schism between supporters of clubs who opposed the move and those clubs who vote for Newco, despite the wishes of their own supporters.
Kilmarnock might be able to look forward to lower costs for stewarding and turnstile operators, from their own support as well as others. Still, they would be able to open more than one stand when Newco visit.
What a great five days Walter Smith had. His attempts to buy assets from Rangers administrators failed, sigh, but he managed to undermine the guys trying to sell tickets to Ibrox next season, so it wasn’t a complete waste of time. Legned.
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Mort
I was thinking of doing some pointless scouting in Italy and Spain coming up with the names of football aces that Club12 could never afford but which we can feed out to the fans when renewing their season books
Only need a grand or so a day to cover expenses – that ok with you?
VertWolf
Afternoon all,
Looking for some info. I just received an e mail from customerservice@celticsuperstore.co.uk advising of a further delay on international delivery for the new sponsorless away strip. Does anyone know if the strip is available at the Superstore locations?
Hail hail.
The begging bowl out now…
CHARLES GREEN understands why Rangers fans are reluctant to renew their season tickets at a time when the club’s SPL status is under threat.
And he knows he will have to work hard to gain the supporters’ trust given the turmoil they have endured since February 14 when the Light Blues entered administration under previous owner Craig Whyte.
But speaking to RangersTV.tv at Ibrox today the new Chief Executive urged season ticket holders to make decisions ‘based on their conscience and what they feel is right for the club.’
Green, of course, is as frustrated as anyone about the uncertainty surrounding the 2012/13 campaign but the Yorkshireman has reiterated that any money brought in from renewals will be ring fenced in a secure account.
He said: “We said in the letter that went out for renewals that any season ticket money we receive will be put in a specific account and it will be ring fenced, that is exactly where we are.
“That catered for a number of contingencies, not least of which was that in the event that we weren’t playing football in any league, because one of the options still open to the SFA with the appellate trial is that we could have our license withdrawn or removed completely.
“It would be improper and unfair for us to receive money when we can’t deliver a product.
“So that protection is still there but what I would say to fans is that we will, in my view, be playing football in Scotland.
“I can’t say what league or division at this stage which is really unfortunate, but there is full protection there and as things unfold over the next few weeks we’ll be able to come back to season ticket holders.
“I’ve met fans personally outside the stadium and people have also emailed and written to me.
“They’ve been saying they’ve taken up their season tickets while there are obviously people saying they’re not taking up their season tickets too and we understand that.
“This issue of trust is not something which will be overcome overnight.
“The fans of this club were let down by the previous owner and, to some extent, the owner before him.
“We never expected that would be forgotten overnight and for us, it’s about repairing that trust and it’s a long-term thing.
“We are here for the long term and I don’t expect it to be an overnight success. Fans have to make decisions based on their conscience and what they think is right for the club.
“What I can tell them is that money is protected and it’s in an account which will not be used until I can sit in front of you and tell you where we’re playing and what league we’ll to be in.”
Arty
I noticed in one of your posts that you lived just over the border would that me a CA post code or further South?
row z
I see no picket line before my eyes :-)
ShakespeareCSC No.1
“So that protection is still there but what I would say to fans is that we will, in my view, be playing football in Scotland.”
From the guy who was convinced the CVA would be accepted. He does not mention which league right enough.
lol!
Malorbhoy – how are you? I’ve not seen you at St Columba’s for a few weeks.
anche gli angeli on 20 June, 2012 at 16:13 said:
Any auld hauns remember a Celtic Morton league game at CP in May 1969 just after we had gubbed the Huns 4 -0 in the SCF to win our 2nd treble.. I remember it was a Friday night ? and we paraded the 3 trophies and then got pumped 4-1 by a very good Morton side.
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It wasn’t a treble it was an unprecdented quarduple as we also paraded the Glasgow Cup. Table on the pitch – 4 trophies pumped – cried walking back to the car.
Seville67
Arty:
That comment from me is harsh, but I stand by it, and it won’t change. My old man has followed Celtic from one end of this country to the other, for longer than I have been alive, and he is adamant that he will not set foot in the ground of any team which supports the NewCo application … and I believe him. He came within an ace of not renewing his season ticket – a decision of monumental significance for that man – and only relented when the Green Brigade did, believing, as many do, that they would only have done so after hearing something which assuaged their fears about Celtic’s stand on this.
My own money is still in the bank, and there it will stay until I know what I’m being asked to pay for. The decision to buy a season ticket for Parkhead or not might prove to be a soul-crushing one … I hoping not to have to find out. But the decision as to whether or not to ever visit another ground in Scotland outside Celtic Park is the easiest choice I’ve ever had to make in my life.
If a NewCo club in blue jerseys, playing out of Ibrox, is in the SPL next season I am done with the rest of Scottish football, now and forever. I will never set foot in ANY away ground again, regardless of where their vote went. I will never purchase a ticket for a Scottish Cup or League Cup match again either, as I will not support the institution that is the SFA, for allowing it to come to this.
I will not support a basic corruption and subversion of the rules so gross, so stark, that it will make Scottish football a laughing stock forevermore. The reputation of our national sport will never recover from the damage and many clubs will never be the same again. The link between fans and clubs will have been broken, probably forevermore. If you are a parent who stops going, your kids will too. The lure of the English game will see them in Liverpool or Arsenal or Man City shirts instead. Generations will fall away, never to return.
The game dies, one day at a time. That’s the reality of this situation, and the SFA and SPL have already pushed it to the point where real damage has already been done, and more is done with every revelation that comes out.
In other countries they are looking at our league, our whole national game, in utter disbelief, and in England the pundits talking about the league “needing both clubs” do so with barely concealed contempt in their voices, with eyes which gleam amusement and faces which cannot hide the sniggers. They believe our league is a joke, so dependent on two (one) clubs that it cannot do the right thing, the ONLY rational thing to do, by annihilating the one which has disgraced the game.
A demonstration that our game is clean would be a beam of light right across football. This is not Italian footballing losing a Juventus here. Juventus left behind Lazio, Roma, the Milan clubs …. this would be an almost suicidally (in neutrals eyes) gallant demonstration that the game comes first … and it would make our country one of the most respected in the game.
Or we can be a joke. We can formalise and legitimise the disgrace, and in that case I don’t want to know, and many, many, many thousands of fans, from across the game, will react the same way.
I am appalled we are even still discussing it. The sins of this club would have destroyed any other five, six, ten times over.
VertWolf
Speak to the Co-Sec The Pantaloon Duck. He’ll deal with all expenses queries but make sure its tax deductible but scouting in Italy and Spain would be pretty pointless now as all top players are in Poland and the Ukraine.
Change flights to there and make sure and stay at the top hotels and get yourself a nice tailored Italian suit. We want to be seen to be making a good first impression.
Keep in contact. These fabricated stories about how many players we are going to sign aren’t going to write themselves.
Mort
Is Green commiting fraud by saying Sevco is the dead Rangers and trying to get people to give him money on that basis?
If the SPL vote is by secret ballot the threat of boycotts will have no effect.
ernie lynch on 20 June, 2012 at 16:42 said:
If the SPL vote is by secret ballot the threat of boycotts will have no effect.
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In that case the bhoycott should be of every club!
Sir Paul
Na.. Ah don’t approve of the DEMANDED?? PROPOSED? OBLIGATORY?… Whitevah.. Boycott …of Any Club who votes for the Return of the Bear.
Smacks o’ UNIONISM.. and. as ye Know, very weel.
KOJO. HATES UNIONS!!
Today.. in these mair enlightented Times..
A Union..is an Anachronism.. is No Needed.
If An Inidividual canny think or Act oan his Ain Behalf.. then
that is jist TOO BAD!
Hell Mend Him or Her.
If A Guy or Gal who is a Celtic Fan.. and wants tae express his or her Disgust .. aginst.. well. .Any Ither Club.. or even the Celtic.. then..
that is Entirely
UP TAE HIM or HER!
Ah hiv nae objection..
Howevahhhhhh..
As soon as an Organization ORDERS him… as a Member of that Organization.. that he MUST DAE..this or That.
Then Ah Balk.. BIG TIME!
Na..
Ah dinnae Need Any. Stinkin’ “BIG BROTHER”
Ah am No in Favour of Being Told Whit tae dae,
Ah am a great believer in..the adage.
“Mother! Ah wid raither Dae it, Masel!”
Heck . a Nanny Government ,with which we Hiv bin Landed is Bad Enuff..and every Day.. Ah am scunnerred at whit new Law or cockamamie idea..it comes up wi’,is Bad Enuff.
Ah tell the C.S.A. tae go Tak a Long walk aff a Short Pier, in This.!
Kojo
Still, Laughin’
DBBIA
I was at 1200 Last Sunday, going a lot to St Augustines in Carlisle better Mass time,s also keeping very well thank you, must meet up for a wee drink or four sometime in the near future
ernie lynch:
I posted here months ago that the cop out was going to be a secret ballot. I hope to God Celtic do not agree to such a disgrace.
I suspect that on the day it is exactly what will happen though.
Mort
Do you need any brown brogues?,I recently saw quite a pile of discraded pairs of various sizes in the south of glasgow,there may be some club blazers and ties available soon also..
Oh and dont forget the obligatory wee embittered kit man ..you might need one of those too…
yours in club 12
Malorbhoy- will be at Sunday Mass this week, good to catch up.
Better Mass times? Not a bhoycott then!
The Glasgow cup – aye you are right. Although we won all 4 in 67 too so not unprecedented. Should have won the big cup too in 69 after we drew in Milan only to lose to a daft defensive mistake at CP.
Mort,
I can also provide access to tattoo removal for club 12 followers if needed
I thought of a catchy strap line of say ” erra 5 stars removed,5 furra pound” to get the venture up and running…let me know
yours in club 12 once again
[its all very exciting isnt it!]
ernie
Do they vote on secrecy or is it a decision made by Doncaster?
James Forrest is Neil Lennon! We are ALL Neil Lennon! on 20 June, 2012 at 16:44 said:
If you were the chairman of an SPL club and were being threatened with a boycott if you vote one way and fearful for your personal safety if you voted another way you’d want the vote to be by secret ballot. It’s too obvious a solution to ignore or dismiss.
right enough allready (he said in a mock brooklyn accent).
who can we get in the European Cup qualifiers ?
(that was a wee prompt for any hun interlopers, just to mock you even more.
Hamiltontim
The emperor’s new scaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaab! ;-)
HH
DBBIA
No Bhoycott of St C fr Joe would be after me although he did say what about your collection envelope when you are not here ,told him I do direct debit (once a missionary Priest always one Ha Ha)
hamiltontim on 20 June, 2012 at 16:47 said:
I assume they’d have to vote on it.
Maybe someone could ask for that vote to be in secret.
And then someone could ask for that vote to be in secret.
And so on.
Charles Green struggling for season ticket renewals? Hardly surprising considering Sevco FC had no season ticket holders last season! Stupid ???
Kojo if it wisnae for the Unions we would still be working 12 hour days for starvation wages, our children would be slaves and our old folk would be in the workhouse. And that would include you ya wallopper.
A secret ballot means that the result can be whatever the SPL want it to be……probably 10-2 for newco so that any club who votes against will think that the 2 is them and Celtic…….or am I being far too cynical?
Johann Murdoch
How are you my friend ,is Oltim joining us next year in the old prawn sandwitch seats?
Serious question:
What happens to the dead clubs cups in the trophy room at Ibrox?
Hmmmm – the old secret ballot with Donkey Doncaster counting the votes.
What if he just declares the vote 8-4 in favour of Newco Club 12 – who the hell would know any different?
johann murdoch
very exciting times ahead for Club 12. looking forward to leading the charges to face the Champions. Hope we can take a good support with us.
Can I also ask the CSA to not boycott our new Club 12 as we have no affiliation with any other team past or present. Boycott the rest by all means but not us.
Mort
Cadizzy – snap !!!!
I am equally cynical…
hamiltontim on 20 June, 2012 at 16:47 said:
“Do they vote on secrecy or is it a decision made by Doncaster?”
A secret ballot on a vote for secrecy means that the result can be whatever the SPL want it to be……probably 10-2 for a vote for secrecy so that any club who votes against a vote for secrecy will think that the 2 is them and Celtic…….or am I being far too cynical?
BlantyreKev on 20 June, 2012 at 13:06 said:
Excellent post and proposal. I absolutely agree. Good competition is essential or we will all miss the joy and excitement of a well contested title win. Embracing the idea of a fairer share of income would win a lot of respect and friendship now and for the future.
anche gli angeli
you are right.
The “unprecedented” comment was a dig at Sir Walk Away and the Press in how they over used that word when Ex Rangers were on the road to Manchester.
I would say unprecedented disgrace but they had previous.
Seville67
“What I can tell them is that money is protected and it’s in an account which will not be used until I can sit in front of you and tell you where we’re playing and what league we’ll to be in.”
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Hmmmmmmm…..sounds about as believable as the e-mail I got from some Prince in Darkest Africa who just needed my bank details to transfer his gold bullion into (warchest!). However, I’m still waiting and my account is now empty :-)