There are parallels between Salzburg and Celtic. After an outstanding season Salzburg lost their coach, Roger Schmidt, in May to Bayer Leverkusen, appointing Adolf Hutter (commentators beware), who previously managed Austrian Bundesliga club Grodig and is largely unknown outside Austria.
Unlike Ronny Deila, Hutter has not tried to change Salzburg’s system, but the period of transformation has been blamed for Salzburg failing to overcome Malmo in the Champions League play-off round (Malmo taxed Juventus in Turin last night before two second half Tevez goals settled things). New instructions, new training techniques and, in some cases, new personnel present challenges.
Ronny has had a few false starts but the return of Scott Brown at the weekend, the return to form of Kris Commons, who will surely start, and the addition of Scepovic, Tonev and Wakaso to the squad give reason for confidence.
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If anyone believes the Tories that they will deliver these more powers for Scotland then I don’t question your principles…I question your sanity!
greenwells glory – In its place was a kind of shopping list of desires that was being added to daily. So there was: Get rid of Trident, raise the minimum wage, lower corporation tax, promote gay and lesbian rights, create a world leading Green economy, exploit oil to the full and become a world leading petro-chemical economy, nationalise the banks, nationalise BP, be more attractive to foreign investment. The shopping list of ‘positive’ ideal goals could never tally up, the desires of the Yessers were incompatible and contradicted each other, but to raise this was seen as being ‘negative’. Every kind of Yes had to be included, and this meant there could be no debate. […] This was what YES had started to mean – it meant YES to everything
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/YesMan2008poster.jpg (thumbsup)
Snake P
“He says YES won’t give everyone in its uneasy alliance as he portrays it everything they want as individual groups.
Earth shattering that one.
Strangely he doesn’t say the same about Better together’s unholy alliance.”
Funnily enough, the poster West end of the East end made a contemporaneous mirror point about the No campaign coalition that Greenwell’s made about Yes.
Strangely, you didn’t make the same intervention about his point that you made to GG.
Hebcelt
Pal.. Ah hiv ALWIZ .. Bin Accused of Losing the Plot.
Ah thought that Ye Knew That?
Howevahhhhhhhh..
.. Ye know somethin’?
Whit is this Goddamn Plot .. Anywey?
Diz Anybuddy Know whit it Is?
Ah Don’t!
Dae You?
Nice Chattin ,Pal..
Ah like Ye.
Kojo
Still,Laughin
The importance of currency union in simple analogy terms.
Why it affects all promises and assurances or why they are all dependent on it..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XiA02AQRTw&feature=youtu.be
On a wee fitba point, as we await news of our line up for tomorrow, I would note that Roy Keane’s appointment as Villa asst. coach has not had the kind of disastrous impact that was widely predicted on here AND he has lasted a whole month in the job without a resignation or player revolt.
Villa are unbeaten having won 10 out of 12 points and beaten Liverpool and Stoke away from home.
Maybe Roy was in charge of their LC loss, however.
Setting Free the Bears
Pal.. So We didnae go fur Roy.
Good Joab..
Otherwize..
This Forum wid hiv LOAST..
Kojo!
Kojo
Still,Laughin
In three years there will be a UK referendum on EU membership. So there is a good chance Scotland will be out of the EU anyway with a No vote tomorrow. If there is a Yes vote Scotland might be out of the EU, nobody seems to know for sure.
The EU membership is distracting attention from the real issue in tomorrows’ Independence referendum.
West End of East End
16:11 on
17 September, 2014
Labour in Scotland in it’s current format is finished.
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That is what is so worrying post yes.
I think there will be a right wing loyalist coalition, the left is so disjointed.
Greenwells…
Very poor article.
Obviously prepared beforehand.
Dear me!
Twists & Turns
Ya dancer. Thank you, staked my last fiver on the double. :)))
Snake Plisken, Salve salve ;- You have never heard of the guy, so that means nobody else has does it? and because you would like him to be unknown to everybody who matters (in your world) his experience and point of view are to be dismissed ?
You do realise that you are behaving exactly in the manner ascribed in his article to people on your side of the debate don’t you?
From now on only people the great Snake Plisken has heard of (An approves of) may be referenced. Pretty much sums up the Scottish Nazi Party world view.
Oh well it will all be pover soon anyway.
Greenwells
Non torsii subligarium
Some amount of Tims must like sitting at the back of the bus.
Vote YES, free yourself.
HH
Kojo I certainly know what the plot is, I,ve got it in my hip pocket I’ll tell you more when the time is right. Hail hail Hebcelt
Groundskeeper Willies views on Independence
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid3167640851001?bckey=AQ~~,AAACT2hWexE~,QV-ElXQT89Us7FfP5MtRRJfaaGppsGPV&bclid=0&bctid=3783346528001
Anne Duff
16:37 on
17 September, 2014
In three years there will be a UK referendum on EU membership. So there is a good chance Scotland will be out of the EU anyway with a No vote tomorrow. If there is a Yes vote Scotland might be out of the EU, nobody seems to know for sure.
The EU membership is distracting attention from the real issue in tomorrows’ Independence referendum.
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Be absolutely sure, if Scotland votes YES we are out of Europe and will have to re-negotiate entry as a new entity.
Came in to late for the tips, Dang
Great stuff TnT
HH
Bawsman
“That is what is so worrying post yes.
I think there will be a right wing loyalist coalition”.
-Beyond parody!
THE EXILED TIM
16:43 on
17 September, 2014
Some amount of Tims must like sitting at the back of the bus.
Vote YES, free yourself
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You can’t be free without your own currency control.
Snake Plissken:
I’ve heard of him.
Phylvis, Salve salve;- Congrats on your entry into fatherhood. I hope you wetted the wean’s head with something suitable.
Greenwells
Corripe Cervisiam.
Greenwells Glory The Scottish Nazi Party dearie me do you want to retract? Hail Hail Hebcelt
See before the Nazis came around, what would have been the relevant accusation that would be thrown at someone in line with Godwin’s law?
TET
My parents aligned me to The Labour Movement n order to ensure I did not sit at the back of the bus.
They ignored the big tartan bus with the Scottish Independence route marked on it. It started running its service all over Scotland in the 60s and no Tim I knew in Castlemilk thought that was the bus for them at the time. I started to hear about a few Tims getting on the bus in the late 70s but it was felt to be a bus full of those Tartan Army types that Ian Bankier likes.
I don’t know when it became the trendy bus. Maybe when Brian Souter gave it a new set of wheels.
Tim Tanium
16:28 on
17 September, 2014
If anyone believes the Tories that they will deliver these more powers for Scotland then I don’t question your principles…I question your sanity!
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I don’t believe the Tories but I don’t believe they are all powerful or we are all helpless if its a No vote.
That is not insanity that is having faith in the inherent goodness of humanity. If that makes me insane I plead guilty.
You can’t be free if you don’t know what you want, where you’re going, whose going to pay for it, no credit card purchases just like MkII huns, and asking your enemies for directions and help.
What a platform to lauch a nation.
I predict a boom in Scottish negotiators.
Bawsman well thats cleared that up now that you are absolutely sure we’ll be out of Europe in the event of a Yes vote. However that is only your opinion which you are quite entitled to hold.Good luck tomorrow. Hail Hail Hebcelt
davidopoulos
“See before the Nazis came around, what would have been the relevant accusation that would be thrown at someone in line with Godwin’s law?”
I think it was “You’re as bad as that Glasgow Rangers lot”.
So congratulations to the Nazis for being more infamous than them.
hebcelt:
If Scotland leaves the Union it is out of both unions. It will have to apply for EU membership and it will not be an easy task getting back in on decent terms.
setting free the bears for Res. 12 & Oscar Knox but saying no to CQN racists
16:54 on 17 September, 2014
davidopoulos
“See before the Nazis came around, what would have been the relevant accusation that would be thrown at someone in line with Godwin’s law?”
I think it was “You’re as bad as that Glasgow Rangers lot”.
So congratulations to the Nazis for being more infamous than them.
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Of course, of course. And before Rangers?
SFTB what is the difference between infamous and famous? Hail Hail Hebcelt
Re EU Membership (quite a few posts on here).
Let’s be clear. We (the Scots) are currently EU citizens, under the Lisbon Treaty, and it is enshrined in our passports.
The EU will have some difficulty taking that away from us – should they try to do so. Barrosso (sp?) was acting out of incredible self interest, when stating Spain would block our membership application, as that country is simply desperate to stop Catalunya copying us and becoming independent.
Spain is clearly acting against the spirit of the EU here. As long as we meet the criteria set out in article 61 of the Treaty on European Union (fair elections, will of the people etc etc) then membership is open to us. The EU runs a Member Access Program for new states wishing to join, and to support them in meeting the criteria. In short – EU membership is easily attainable to a prosperous country like Scotland. (They will help us to join).
HOWEVER – we have to consider that Scotland is already one of the 20 richest countries in the world (per capita – and I am allowing for set-up cots here. The OECD ranking puts us at 14) . We are the biggest oil producer in the EU, a union which has to support countries like bulgaria, romania, slovakia, greece etc etc. These countries drain the EU pot, and the EU would desperately like to have more prosperous northern members who can contribute to said pot. Given that most of our population are EU citizens, do you really think that the EU would not desperately want to sort out a deal to avoid losing it’s biggest oil producer?? Kick the Scots out, but keep funding Bulgaria and Greece?? Come on.
Additionally, even if Scotland had to wait a short while for full membership (highly unlikely!) we would simply join the EEA – via the European Free Trade Assosciation. This gang of 4 includes Norway, Liechtenstein, Iceland and Switzerland…. not exactly poverty stricken!! Croatia are in the process of joining up. Although not intended as such, the EEA operates as a kind of ‘nursery’ to full EU membership, and citizens have the same right of free movement/free labour etc throughout the EU. I live in one of the EU capitals, and can confirm there are large numbers of Swiss and Norwegian companies and people based here. As such, Scotland could sit in the EEA for a few years pending full EU membership. I doubt very much that this would be required however.
People voting ‘No’ on the EU argument are frankly clueless anyway however, as the only way that rUK could get a UKIP stand down, and avoid a Tory/UKIP split is to offer a referendum on EU membership. i am sure this will happen, (2016? 2017?) and it looks as though the majority of english want to leave the EU. Scotland could well vote ‘no’ to leaving the union, and then be yanked out of the EU by english voters in 2 years. Personally, I suspect ths will happen. (And it will be the Scots own fault).
Vote YES, and take control of our own future.
I’m sure all the ‘aye’ and ‘naw’ folk will be best pals again in a couple days and then we can get on with the aul Poppy Debate.
My referendum prediction is that No will win. I say this on the basis that Chris Graham and Bill McMurdo, son of Bill McMurdo, have both predicted a No victory.
And those boys are always right. They do have a sensational track record when it comes to backing winners.
kitalba
16:56 on 17 September, 2014
hebcelt:
If Scotland leaves the Union it is out of both unions. It will have to apply for EU membership and it will not be an easy task getting back in on decent terms.
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Is it not like getting your hand stamped in club on your way out for a smoke?
greenwells glory – thanks!
I had a Diet Coke. (thumbsup)
If a Tory says there will be more powers the nationalists line up to say that a Tory can’t be trusted. Yet if a Tory says there will be opposition to more powers it is treated as absolute truth.
The no camp has tried every trick in the book to scare us brave yes voters, now it’s ‘ Celtic and sevco will never get to play in England’
That’s great news, who wants to play in a league like that.
Vote yes it’s the only way
Kitalba lets say you and your wife are both members of lets say the local golf club you get divorced are both,one or neither thrown out of said club? Hail Hail Hebcelt