Football’s hard, Armstrong, McNeill v Greig


Last week I suggested we were better with yesterday’s game over and done with, but I have to admit to thoroughly enjoying the occasion.  It may not have been the derby of Old, but it had traces of familiarity from my youth, when managers Billy McNeill and John Greig faced each other.

I watched the game back on television last night.  What an absolute pair of trumpets Warburton and Weir are!  Weir was sent to the stand for demanding Mikael Lustig receive a second yellow card, despite not receiving his first.  Warburton then explained this to the media, indignant that Lustig wasn’t dismissed for two yellows, still totally oblivious to the fact he hadn’t been booked.

Football’s hard.  Referees make mistakes.  But keeping track of who has been booked is remarkably simple.  It was Nir Bitton, not Mikael, who was booked early in the game.  Nir and Mikael have a similar, slight, build, but there’s 7cm between them, with different skin and hair pantones.

What does this tell us?  That the Newco management didn’t know their opponents well enough to tell them apart, never mind how they would play.  Remarkable, considering how often we’ve been on television this season.

Two weeks ago a Dundee United fan asked me what we’d done to Stuart Armstrong and Gary Mackay-Steven.  Armstrong, he explained, was never going to make it as a wide player, he was effective for United through the middle.

I think we suffered for the loss of Tom Rogic, as Stuart edged himself into the occasion, but it may be Ronny Deila deployed him incorrectly.

Moments to cherish from the game: Moussa Dembele’s first touch to control Lustig’s cross at the fourth, and his reverse pass for Scott Sinclair at the third.  You’ve not seen control and awareness like that from a Celtic striker in over a decade.

We’ll touch on the longer-term issues of yesterday at a later date, after we’ve got Barcelona out of our system.

The one thing we all wanted from yesterday was to come through the game without further injuries.  Both Scott Brown and Tom Rogic, two of our central midfield three, retired early.  I’m not going to tell you we’ll take anything from Barcelona on Tuesday, but having Brown, Rogic and Bitton in the team will allow us to at least face the game in decent condition.


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  1. thom the thim



    “It was a visual display and, I repeat, if the underlying message has to be sought after and explained, then the the exercise was a complete failure and grossly offensive.”



    And I believe that is what I said too.



    When even words, with clearer meanings attached to them, can be misinterpreted, we need to be very careful with visual images.



    Well, unless we are entering for the Turner Prize.

  2. Auroraborealis79



    You may well have lost me. And tbat is the drink! Phone on charger.





  3. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    I am sorry to say the two blow up dolls one with a Rangers scarf and the other with an orange sash hanging from the stand was goading taken to far.Only people who have had suicide in there family or been suicidile themselves can know what a terrible illness depression is it affects all ages children as well as adults. God made us all in his image so the taking of ones own life is a true tradgedy . I dislike the rangers fans but I do not hate them hate is a destructive and hurts the hater more than the hated . I hope the culprits can be found and they apoligise for this sick prank which went to far. H.H.

  4. WITS



    28/1 for us to repeat Alaves feat in Camp Nou on Tuesday. :)


    Cardiff here we come! :)))

  5. My seat’s in section 141 and I had a clear view of the dangling dolls.I thought it was asinine and tacky.Those involved should put a bit more thought into their schemes and try to anticipate the consequences of them to more than just their intended target(s).


    Having said that,I don’t believe there was any sisnister motives behind it.As others have posted,in comparison to some of what’s seen and heard from thems it’s small potatoes (see what I did there?).Added to that,i’ve been guilty of the odd act of stupidity,in my youth of course,and don’t feel in a position to judge and condemn those responsible.


    Hopefully the people concerned will not dream up pranks on an empty head again and refrain from crass wind-ups but they’re not the devil but merely daft.IMHO of course.

  6. Jim Payne



    I’m grand my friend it’s good to see you posting.



    Apologies, I’m more off than on tonight.



    As I said in my post, in the very least the dolls idea was in very poor taste. However, I think meaning has been attributed to the display without knowledge or merit. I’ve even seen suggestions, incredibly from Celtic supporters, that it had something to do with the tragic events visited upon Kris Boyd’s family.



    Now that may be the case but I very much doubt it. All I’m saying is I’d wait for an explanation before condemnation.

  7. DD



    Knightswood means to me red ash parks …….



    Little Ireland is a wee place in Coatbridge called Langloan :-)

  8. delaneys dunky.



    I also had a good time, great to meet up with a couple of old codgers that I hadn’t seen for a couple of years, D B for much longer,Nice to see the gentle giant has stopped drinking,Might have picked a different soft drink to sup, not orange and lemonade.



    I took Zbyszek to Stirling today and had a tour of Stirling especially the Castle,but when we walked along the ramparts I saw Wallace’s monument, but it put me off going up there by BT when I told him the plan to take Zbyszek up to the Monument as well as the Castle he sort of put me off the idea, by saying i’d have to climb 300 odd stairs when you go up Wallaces Monument and that was what happened, “I was put off”.

  9. SFTB….



    Nailed it mate, the stunt may have seemed in poor taste from the smsm’s interpretation but I don’t for a minute think that was the intention of said parties.


    It’s all about deflection now.

  10. delaneys dunky.



    By the way , I took him down to see where the Church was the night before, and told him to memorise the way, as I wasn’t going to Church the next day.

  11. glendalystonsils on

    Nonsense to connect the hanging dolls with the Boyd family, but an ill advised idea all the same.



    We have had some brilliant banners from the GB (I know the dolls was nothing to do with GB),


    with just the right mix of humour and GIRUY to the huns.



    The dolls most definitely lacked the humour.

  12. Gerryfaethebrig.


    That’s me caught up in the lurking. A pair of eejits indeed, I’ve been called a lot worse. Magic stuff at least you had a couple of shandies in you, I was stone cold sober. :-)))).


    Squirrels appearing on CQN. Brendan Rodgers has us playing great, we’ve beating Hearts and St J away, Aberdeen and newco at home. Brilliant.


    But we will talk about blow up dolls. Before anyone points a finger my brother in law, my sister’s man hung himself aged 50 on the day of my step daughter 21 st. Mental health illnesses are horrible and difficult to comprehend. A couple of guys come up with a poor taste joke that’s it. Robinbhoy that’s some leap to get to Kris Boyds brother are you a phishing level 5 guy.Aw naw now I’m talking about it too.


    Hail Hail

  13. GFTB



    I live beside the auld tram terminus in Dalmuir West. The furthest place west that the tram could take the immigrant Irish landing at the Broomielaw. To this day it is Irish and Celtic minded.

  14. Big Georges Fan Club - Hail, Hail, Wee Oscar on

    Right – that’s me and Wee BGFC just in the door from London



    Game failed to record – damnitt!!!



    Any links to full game ????

  15. As I’ve said, at the very, very least the dolls idea was in extremely poor taste. However, I’ve just read back over the last few pages.



    Yesterday the away support wilfully destroyed toilets in acts of wanton vandalism. They sang songs of a sectarian and racist nature. Despite this we have Celtic supporters condemning the ‘idiocy’ of our own before the outright hatred and bigotry of others.



    A little perspective please lads that’s all.

  16. Oldtim



    So you dogged Mass! :)))


    Glad you had good day in Stirling.


    What you up to tomorrow?

  17. HAMILTONTIM on 11TH SEPTEMBER 2016 9:07 PM



    Dog bites man- not news.



    Man bites dog- news.

  18. BigGeorge tell the we mhan we were magic and won 5-1, if he isn’t going to watch tell him it was 10-0






    No airtime, am disgusted about a couple of idiots who have obviously not had that in their lives

  19. OldTim67



    I hope you’re well pal. Hopefully we’ll be up for a visit soon but things have been crazy recently.

  20. Would those dolls have been specially purchased for the occasion, or would whoever’s bright idea it was have had then already?

  21. Ernie



    Meaning is being attributed where it probably doesn’t exist.






    Not had what?

  22. To be honest I thought the ‘flag of war’ banner wasn’t the best either – it isn’t war it’s football and i thought it gave the newco too much gravitas. I was hoping for a humorous barbed jibe at their deadness.



    But really, it doesn’t matter.



    The tricolour fans zone thingy was brilliant. Dolls and banner – daft.



    Something to get knickers twisted about? Not really.



    Go take pictures of the guys at these games that pretend to shoot the opposition fans – you could make a mountain out of that too. It’s childish, offensive and reflects poorly on the individuals who do it. And it’s no better than the blow up doll thing.



    Perspective required sometimes ….

  23. JNP 9.06pm



    It’s closer than some think…….as a daft bhoy I thought I had let my whole family down, sad, sad place……thankfully through friends and family i saw the end of that tunnel



    No wonder am a happy clapper :-)



    Enjoy every day, I know I appreciate everything family wise and the Cellic

  24. EL



    Where did they get the blue scarf and orange sash fae. Did these and the dolls belong to them???

  25. HT



    100% disagree.



    I expect better of Celtic fans. We are not Huns. That was Hunnish. I don’t need to hear their excuses to know it is not appropriate for Celtic Park.



    I care little for Huns as you know and I don’t ever expect them to raise my opinion of them. They are detestable. But they’re actions in no way will ever excuse one or two eejits in our support who either acted without full thought or out of similar but opposite hatred.



    My last word on it. Even though I said that previously.