Close to 100 people agreed to participate in the Scottish FA’s disciplinary panel, as Neil Lennon put it yesterday, “for the love of the game”. Processes were established and although panel members would meet and be introduced to club officials who were subject to their decisions, they were granted freedom from publicity in order for them to hand out punishments free of intimidation.
This freedom has now gone.
Such was the reaction to Ally McCoist’s public demand to know the names of the panel members who judged the actions of his club the SFA felt it prudent to select panellists who were happy to expose themselves and their places of employment to the outcry the original panellists endured. IF they uphold of increase the penalties.
On Wednesday evening we should find out whether intimidation of the SFA works.
The biggest scandal of all is that despite the consequences of McCoist’s actions, the SFA have taken no disciplinary action against him. Rangers officials are free to react to the appeal judgement in the same manner as the original without fear of consequence.
Other managers who are pursued for more prosaic matters might consider the SFA panel have something personal against them.
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EmeraldBee\o/ proud to be an internet bampot on 12 May, 2012 at 11:59 said:
MrX
I’m still waiting for my renewal aswell. Should we be worried?
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Glad I’m not the only one! As it happens, mine is set up in a way in that it automatically renews unless I say differently. Just as well, as the deadline is 18th May.
Thanks to all to responded to my query.
I have just read Ernies link.
Oooft.
TT
Csogrove giving the Laptop Loyal dogs abuse on Shortbread.
Some actual analysis from two semi- comedians.
Says it all
Pf ayr and Mr. Scrambled name.
You guys know me by now.
I will never trust the SFA.
Wait til Wednesday.
HH
Paul Bradley @BhoyPaul
Even worse. Players insisingt full wages when embargo up & feck the club. Ally might be for walking after all, players not happy with him.
11m Paul Bradley @BhoyPaul
Oh dear its all conming undone at Ibrox. D&P hearing from Ally players now want out. Some for nothing some for low value. Bidders beware.
mr x and ernie lynch
While I agree that Fergus wasn’t the type to be much affected by this, as he says, it did upset his family, and altho’ it wasn’t the whole stadium neither he or his family deserved it.
Regarding the booing of NL that night, my recollection was that it was more of a collective sense of frustration -let’s not forget we were all on tenterhooks that night – not with NL but with the retaining of possession in our own half rather than looking to play a forward pass
The good ship Celtica,
the first payment is on 15/6/12 with 3 instalments at the end of August, September and October.
Come on the Bhoys!
Was just thinking about lists after reading celticbhoys post .
My list would be huns you would love to meet in the street after rankers die HMMMMMMMMMM minty,wattie (waistcoat), coward McCoist.ratboy Novo. like a new signing Hatley, just for starters :)))))) just imagine the fun you would have. OHHHHHHHH and elbows :)))))
Mr X loves having a “fly kick” on 12 May, 2012 at 11:42 said:
Wife and I still waiting on ours, also my brother hasn’t had his.
The MUCH bigger picture. I believe that HMRC will hammer RFCIA in order to set a precedent in anticipation of turning the searchlight on the bloated & distorted world of The EPL.
And then there are the financial fair play ideas gathering momentum.
E.G. this is the staggering financial mess ManUre are in under the managership of uberhun Fergie. Makes nasty wee Ally look like his ‘mini me’.
http://community.manutd.com/forums/t/221864.aspx
At 2.27am this morning, the following was posted on Rangers Media:
“Massive protest at Ibrox tomorrow at 1pm. Currently being organised on Follow Follow. All RSC’s to be notified.The aim of the protest is a simple one: To force the hand of Clark and Whitehouse to name BK and TBK’s as preferred bidders – the alternative is liquidation. I urge as many of you as possible to put all our differences to one side and to unite and save Rangers – it may be our only chance”.
By 2.46am, another poster states:
“It’s been called off already.That apathy I mentioned earlier has returned to haunt us.Oh dear how sad never mind”.
LMFAO.
Stupid, stupid huns.
Looking forward to meeting up with some excellent CQN’ers tomorrow, oldtim67 and visiting Aussietim and 51 yrs old hippy 001 bhoy….. oh and all the fay bhoys and quizzers etc :¬)
Not received my ST renewal yet but not bothered, I’m going in to see them on Monday to get the lowdown.
V
15m Paul Bradley @BhoyPaul
Oh dear its all conming undone at Ibrox. D&P hearing from Ally players now want out. Some for nothing some for low value. Bidders beware.
Paul Bradley @BhoyPaul
Even worse. Players insisingt full wages when embargo up & feck the club. Ally might be for walking after all, players not happy with him.
ianinascoli,
Thanks for the info.
TGSC,
Sailing On….
Any time I say it’s quiet on here,you can bet it’ll go nuclear within minutes.
So,here goes : it’s quiet on here today.
Anyway.
I need to regain my life now that RFCIA have been unplugged.
Is it true that the so called Fighting Fund is paying for a QC to take this appeal on Wednesday? There are so many stories it is difficult to know what to believe.
Now is the Fighting Fund registered as a company? Does it pay VAT? And will it produce accounts?
Or are those just things that normal organisations do?
Shortbread giving pelters to ‘sooky’ McCall. Another ‘mini me’!
Mr X loves having a “fly kick” on 12 May, 2012 at 11:42 said:
Still no season ticket renewal posted out to me. Anyone else still waiting?
got mine today although I paid on-line about two weeks :-(
Mr X loves having a “fly kick” on 12 May, 2012 at 12:12 said:
*******
Maybe the huns that called it off aren’t stupid, stupid huns, perhaps a dose of reality has come to them and these huns are rather sensible (eh what! someone ‘s spiked my water).
In years to come their children and grandchildren will be Celts :¬)
Oh dear……..
From FF
Largs Euro lottery winner
I know its a long shot but does anyone know the guy who won over 100million , He used to work for STV 4m off him could clinch deal and it would probably only be a years loss of interest to him . Heard he supports the jags so probably not a Taig
What happened to the 2 hours I just had with no kids to get the house sorted? That’s the night shift and morning weather reports caught up with.
S
Haven’t read back so no doubt this has been posted a million times already, but its just soo good.
Duff and Phelps yesterday revealed they had to say no to a move to the English Blue Square football league last week, a move which could have lead to premiership football and the millions that go with it.
As after speaking to manager Ally McCoist he said “We don’t do Woking away”
Stupid Hurtin Huns!!
RFC players do walking away, coming to a news media outlet near you soon.
Glasgows Green and White!
Cosgrove ripping the ‘Scottish football needs the gers’ myth apart. Hilarious.
Balance restored by having a go at Peter Lawell.
S
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon on 12 May, 2012 at 12:20 said:
Now is the Fighting Fund registered as a company? Does it pay VAT? And will it produce accounts?
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Probably via “clip art” Gordon
Succulent Lamb’s Off:
From the Daily Retard:
Rangers in crisis: SFA dossier reveals how David Murray was aware of Craig Whyte’s record
May 12 2012 By Keith McLeod
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DAVID Murray sacrificed Rangers to save his business empire after bankers held a £700million gun to his head, it was revealed yesterday.
An SFA panel’s damning report also lays bare how close Rangers came to being kicked out of the association because of Craig Whyte’s disastrous stewardship of the club.
And despite Murray’s later claims of being duped by Whyte, the panel concluded he was well aware of the shady businessman’s failings.
The former Ibrox chief sold the club to Whyte knowing he was involved with a string of insolvent companies and there was no evidence of him having the means to run the club.
The appalling management of Rangers is exposed in the SFA’s Judicial Panel Disciplinary report, released yesterday.
It reveals how worried directors tried to put the brakes on the sale by having Whyte’s shady dealings examined by a private eye – but Murray remained resolute and eventually won the day.
The sale of Rangers to Whyte wiped £18million off Murray International Holdings Ltd’s debt to Lloyds – only around 2.5 per cent of their total £700million debt mountain.
But Murray was clear of the club, and its forthcoming financial and footballing armageddon.
The report details the reasons behind the severe punishments imposed on Rangers by the SFA last month.
And it reveals the panel considered terminating Rangers’ membership of the SFA because of Whyte’s conduct.
At the time when Whyte was lining up his bid 14 months ago, Murray was desperate to bale out.
Murray International Holdings Ltd were under “serious pressure” from their bankers – HBoS, later Lloyds – to reduce their debt levels, the panel report says.
And when chief operating officer Martin Bain showed Murray a detective’s worrying report on Whyte, the Rangers owner said he had little option but to sell – and urged Bain to convince the board to BACK the sale.
The private investigators hired by the Rangers’ Independent Board Committee found Whyte was involved with numerous companies which were soon wound up owing thousands of pounds in unpaid taxes.
And they could find no evidence of Whyte’s supposed personal wealth.
When Bain, a member of the IBC, received the “substantial and detailed” report on Whyte, it left him “very concerned”.
The panel conclude that, out of the IBC members, “at least” chairman Alastair Johnson was also shown the dossier by Bain before he presented it to Murray.
The report showed most of Whyte’s companies left a trail of debt, including unpaid taxes running to six-figure sums.
Whyte had promised the then Rangers board he could settle the potentially ruinous “big tax case” using £15million of his own personal wealth.
But he provided the board with no information about his companies or proof of funding.
When the Rangers board asked the Murray Group if Whyte had provided proof of funds, they were told he had – but the board never saw the proof.
And any concerns were raised to no avail, as the bankers held the whip hand all along. Lloyds had placed Donald Muir on the Rangers board to represent their interests.
Through Muir, the panel report states, the board became aware that Lloyds were “extremely enthusiastic” about the sale to Whyte for the nominal fee of £1 in cash and clearance of the club’s debt.
The SFA report says Bain was initially apprehensive about raising his concerns with Murray because he was worried about possible repercussions.
The findings say: “He took the view that once he had ‘crossed the line’ there would be no way back.”
Bain met Murray in March last year and aired his concerns that the Murray Group and Murray himself had “lacked due diligence” in probing Whyte.
But Murray said pressure from the bank to sell to Whyte left him “almost no option” and asked Bain to get the approval of the IBC and the full board.
Bain refused to do so, the report said. And his broaching of the subject led to his once-close relationship with Murray being “damaged”.
The findings say that as well as the IBC and the board being leaned on to sell by Murray, Johnston was being pressured by Lloyds.
When Johnston and the board asked Whyte where he would find cash to repair parts of Ibrox and provide working capital, Whyte said cash had been lodged with his London solicitors Collyer Bristow and that proof of this had been shown to the Murray Group.
When the board sought confirmation from the Murray Group, they were told Collyer Bristow had provided proof of funds.
The revelations call into question Murray’s claims that he was “duped” by Craig Whyte.
He made the claim when the club entered administration, saying: “I was duped. My advisers were duped, the bank was duped, the shareholders were duped. We’ve all been duped. Is duped the right word? Duped is the right word.
“I deeply, deeply regret selling the club to Craig Whyte. If the information had been available to me at the time, I wouldn’t have done it.”
The SFA findings provide evidence that Murray was fully aware of Whyte’s past and lack of proof of funds.
The findings also state that prior to Whyte’s takeover, Rangers had been under “financial stress” and had owed “well in excess of £30million”, though that had been “substantially reduced”.
The Murray Group were in debt to Lloyds “in the order of £700million”. The report adds: “The Murray Group was under substantial pressure from Lloyds to reduce its overall indebtedness.
“The asset holdings of the Murray Group were in iron and steel, and in heritable property, and market conditions were unfavourable to profitable realisation of assets or the generation of funds from these sectors.”
The report also details how the board was split over the sale.
It says: “The directors were provided with no details or evidence of any financial matters or proof of funding or assets relating to Whyte or his companies. A number of directors became extremely concerned and sceptical about his good faith, status and standing.
“They remained very concerned about the absence of any form of verification as to his financial or business standing. Other directors took a less critical view.”
The panel report concludes that from May 6, 2001, until February 14, 2012, Craig Whyte was the “directing mind and will” of Rangers.
He deliberately failed to pay tax and information and accounts were withheld from the board.
The report says club legend John Greig and former chairman John McClelland resigned because they knew information was being withheld by Whyte.
Other board members, the panel report states, “could have made public the activities of Craig Whyte, of which they were aware or ought to have been aware”.
These concerns, the panel said, could have gone to the PLUS Stock Exchange and the lack of an AGM at Rangers should also have sounded alarms.
Their report concludes there was a “complete breakdown of corporate governance of Rangers FC”. These failings constituted “as serious offences against the ordinary standards of corporate governance as one could imagine”.
The panel, who accuse Whyte of planning not to pay tax from the outset, say only match-fixing could have been a more serious breach than the way in which Rangers was run under him.
They said: “The massive extent of the failure and the intentional and calculated manner in which it was carried out aggravated the breach even further.”
The report also reveals: “The tribunal considered whether it should terminate Rangers FC membership of the Scottish FA and concluded that punishment was too severe.
“It considered whether suspension of membership was a less serious but appropriately severe punishment, but concluded that too was too severe.”
A Lloyds Banking Group spokesman said last night: “The deal to purchase the majority shareholding of Rangers FC was a matter between Craig Whyte and Sir David Murray.
“The bank’s involvement was in relation to the debt owed by Rangers FC, which was repaid in full in accordance with all required regulatory checks.”
Mort from the nightshift, congatulations mhan!
V
Mr X, I phoned the ticket office yesterday as I hadn’t received my renewal. They said if you normally pay by direct debit, the renewals are only being sent out this weekend. However, in this case most are automatically renewed, it is just a matter of checking you are happy with the amount.
MWD, is it Bar67 tomorrow? I’ll be driving into city centre with 001 bhoy to ditch the car and meet oldtim, then we’ll come back in to meet up, let me know where you are about 4 ish.
V
Good afternoon fellow Celts from sunny Hampshire
Sitting having a beer in the sun in the hometown of Alice Hargreaves.
Lewis Carroll made her famous:)
Lines and lines if Harley Davidsons heading to the coast …no mods here
HH
M
FPLG is a wee rat, I would love it if Neil told us tomorrow what he whispered.
I want him to stay, why would we want to get rid of one of the worst rangers managers in their history.
Wonder if (S)DM has just beefed up his bodyguard count?
Have Duff&Duffer passed another deadline with no announcement?
Stupid huns…
Fergus furra’ flag!
Things are progressing over on FF they want to start using the money pledged to the saverangers fund.
“If we can pledge £3.5 million in a day surely we can turn that into £3.5 mill in real money in a day”
Another bear wonders if his “pledge” is still sitting in someones bank account
or is this a timposter at it.
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#13 Today, 10:35
bigandra
FF Squad Member Join Date: 09-08-2006
Posts: 536
Re: Save Us – £3.5m?
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Originally Posted by UnionRangers
Save Rangers pledges were handled terribly. an utterly pointless exercise and failing to get hard cash in could cost us our club.
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Can someone please confirm the £500 I pledged is still sitting in an account doing nothing
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Hope they dont come looking for the £5000 POLPOT pledged
Couldn’t agree more about Fergus being invited to raise the flag. The day he was booed, as I’ve said many a time on here, was the saddest day ever for me at Celtic Park.
From the bigot bears : :))))))
Rename “Murray Park”
Written by Admin
Saturday, 12 May 2012 10:36
Vanguard Bears call for the immediate renaming of Rangers’ “Murray Park” training complex at Auchenhowie.
Damning evidence from the recently released SFA report into last years sale of Rangers FC states unmistakably that Sir David Murray used the club for his own personal gain, disregarded the state and welfare of it and consequently plunged it into the desperate situation it now finds itself in.
We also give notice that a campaign will be launched demanding that Murray’s Knighthood, earned whilst Chairman of our club, is stripped from him and request that influential Rangers fans the world over support this request and do their utmost to ensure that this charlatan’s reprehensible actions are punished.
Is that the sound of pennies dropping I hope they have another petition for name the last one was magic.
leftclicktic on 12 May, 2012 at 12:47 said:
it will be renamed
cala homes is the favourite so far