Just days after The Beating of Barca in 2004 the youthful Celtic chief executive, Peter Lawwell presented teenage sensation, David Marshall, with a new contract, reward for his incredible goalkeeping performances against the Catalans. Having made only a single first team appearance, in a cup game against (then) lower league opponents, David played the second half of the first leg against Ronaldinho & Co, then all of the second leg, without conceding a goal.
It Camp Nou performance was the most remarkable I’ve seen from a keeper. After years looking for a solid performer to make the position his own, it looked like we had a new star.
A year later David had, if anything, regressed. He remained first choice until after the start of season 2005-06 but Artur Boruc, for a while the genuine article, soon replaced him. David was shipped out to Norwich before eventually settling at Cardiff City, where he has built a solid career, but his star never shone as brightly as we expected it to. His Scottish contemporaries, Allan McGregor and Craig Gordon, both overtook him.
It is incredibly hard for a youth player to break into a team like Celtic in a position like goalkeeper, or striker, the pressure to deliver – every time – is so high, we are a whole lot more likely to introduce wingers. The parallels between David Marshall and Tony Watt are remarkable, so far.
From the outside it’s hard to guess what went wrong for David at Celtic. He lost his place at Celtic when he was just 20 and the trajectory of his career was never the same but 20 is still remarkably young for a keeper working at Champions League level. Tony Watt is two years younger than David and he is in the considerably better position of being able to come on as substitute for sections of games, or to drop away for a few weeks, if necessary.
We should expect more fantastic splurges of form from the player but there will be frustrations and dips in form too. He has the skill, speed and strength to make it. With hard work and patience he stands an excellent chance.
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My dear,dear,dear,friend..PhilBhoy..
Thanks a Heap..
Kojo
Yer pal..who likes ye aloater
magnificentseven, yes your right really must
fanadpatriot
22:26
I sometimes shout “Come on Celtic!” :)
Seriously though, there are too many happy to let the GB do all the singing.
Books
It’s a very sad day when the GB decide bhoycott 2 Celtic home games, especially when you consider the debates that have been raging about bhoycotting away games. You have to suspect that the information about supporters addresses in section 111 is actually coming from within Celtic Park and that is the reason for this action, there can be no other reason!
Regarding the Green Brigade.
This group are the passion at Celtic Park, if I can I will help them.
They are part of the experience at CP, they sing songs to make Celtic proud.
Time for Celtic to step up and protect the fhans.
None of those arrested recently have been convicted, not guilty verdicts keep coming, they support a football team, that’s not a crime. Well, unless they play in green and white Hoops, in Scotland.
I will support the GB, if this does not stop I will not renew my ST-
Two weeks ago, we put out the above statement about the continued harassment of the Green Brigade. The response and support we received was excellent from the rest of the Celtic support, and obviously this is something we are very grateful for.
The reason for this statement was because we felt it was time that the extent of this harassment was made public. We also hoped that Strathclyde Police would see sense and end the criminalisation of our group. Sadly, if anything, they have increased the pressure since this was released. A newspaper report last year claimed that one of their senior officers had promised to ‘smash the Green Brigade’ and it certainly looks like their plan is in motion.
Last Wednesday was a special night at Celtic Park. The display before the match was beyond our wildest expectations, the atmosphere was electric from start to finish and more importantly, Celtic beat arguably the best team in world football. It is a night that will live long in the memory of everyone connected to the club.
However, while the rest of the support were still on Cloud 9, our group was brought back down to Earth with a bump as it transpired that Strathclyde Police had visited yet another two members’ home with a view to charging them. To put this into perspective, this means that just under 50% of the Green Brigade have either faced, or are facing a police charge/ban from football.
Last week, the first home league match since we released the initial statement, a young fan from within 111 was arrested and taken away for the ‘crime’ of having a water bottle inside a football stadium. When questioned about their actions, one of the senior officers within the stadium, Alex Kelly, smugly replied that “if you don’t play ball, we won’t play ball.” In other words, this young fan was being used as a pawn in their game.
On top of that, news broke that they had also visited a fan in Liverpool having (wrongly) assumed that he was involved in the Green Brigade. Why they visited him remains unclear just now but it is something which we’re looking into, and obviously concerned about.
We’ve also heard worrying developments involving a member of the Govan Emerald CSC, which will be revealed over the weekend in a statement from their own members. It wouldn’t be right for us to comment on this any further until they have released this publically.
It has come to the stage where we have to act and fight back. We can’t continue to let the Police have free reign to arrest and charge whoever they please. It is having an astronomical effect on people’s livelihoods. Those members who are left without a charge can’t even enjoy the football anymore in case it leads to a chap at the door that could change their lives forever. The grim reality is that if we don’t act now, there may not be a group left come the end of the season.
As a result, we have no choice but to highlight this further in the form of a two-match boycott from Celtic Park. This will begin immediately and means that during the forthcoming league match V Inverness Caledonian Thistle and Scottish Cup match V Arbroath, the Green Brigade will not be present whatsoever. This is clearly not a decision that has been taken lightly. Our members live for going to watch and support the team we love, just like every other fan out there. Sadly, we aren’t being treated like every other fan and in fact face victimisation and harassment on a scale that is unimaginable. We hope that this boycott will raise awareness of our situation and the end result will be that Strathclyde Police will relent. We’d also once again ask Celtic PLC to defend the fans by using their considerable influence to bring an end to these oppresive police tactics.
We would ask that everyone in Section 111 joins us in this protest and that the area is left empty during both matches. We have been very lucky in that other season-book holders within our section have supported us all the way and we hope that this will continue. Fans in this section who want to join us in protest may have to cancel their payment for the Arbroath match if they are on the home cup ticket scheme.
We’d like to stress again that this is not something that will be taken lightly. Many of our members haven’t missed a Celtic match in years so it’s clearly not been easy to come to this decision. However, it is simply a last resort as this cannot be allowed to continue. The continued support of those in 111, and indeed the rest of the Celtic community is greatly appreciated and we can’t thank you enough. Without this, the group wouldn’t have survived.
We’d also like to make it clear to those who wish to see the end of the Green Brigade, that we will be sticking by the motto created when we were formed in 2006 and will not go down without a fight.
UTLR
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Thanks Spirit for the GB link, don’t know what to say everyone knew they were getting hassle but to bhoycott, maybe thats what needs to be done, the GB would not bhoycott without reason.
Sad news about the green brigade. The polce can get addresses from 1 place sad to say
I think Paul should have a lead article in total support of the GB
All Celtic fans together
Does the club have to hand over addresses etc, data protection?
Gutted that it has come to this, but the group feels it is the only way we can raise awareness within the wider support .
Sorry, Guys..
But..
Ah dinna think that Ye hiv made a wise decision…
If ye Boycott.. Two games.. ye are Depriving the Team o’ yer Excellent Support..
Which,is a Great Boost tae Us… as wiz proved time and time again.
In Ma Opinion..
‘
If Ye withdraw that support..
why..
Ye are Playing intae the Hauns o’ oor Enemies…
Na..
Not a very smart thing tae dae..
Fur.. a Boycott.. wull.. only. extract a.. Tired Yawn.. fae the Polis..
Kojo
Canamalar
I think you are waiting for my reply. Then I would be happy if we don’t discuss these thigs again and leave the subject.
You finished tonights initial post with the comment
Oh dear, and Jesus was the first communist.
I don’t know how you found these were my words to you? They were not to you.
That “was Jesus not the first communist” phrase I remembered from passed years. The communists said that when discussed things with the believers. That meant: he was like we are, but we are even better, come on, join our company.
It’s lies, lies and propaganda.
Ernie Lynch and canamalar
If you could scroll the pages of the last article and tell me how many times two terms “fascists” and “Nazis” there were used to describe the Israelis? Probably tens of times.
I watched the news in the Polish TV today and saw Hamas leaders speaking to the journalists. One of them told that they will not stop fighting until they destroy Israel and kill all Israelis.
Are they doing this for the Palestinian children? The Israelis were the fascists yesterday but I can’t find how you call these Hamas leaders today.
Not keeping one of the sides but would like both country leaders to sit down and work out the terms of peace.
Ernie Lynch
Re.: Tony Cliff and the article on Marxists website. He is the Jew but forgot to tell couple of facts in that article.
I can imagine the Pole who is anti-Polish, the Scott who is anti-Scottish and the Jew who is anti-Jewish. There are also many Jews who are anti-Christian or anti-Polish. I can also say that anti-Semitism has many faces.
Your another views canamalar.
Quotes:
any capitalist is a fascist
Capitalosm is a totalitarian doctrine.
I don’t think above need my comment.
Canamalar
“I also said that Christianity is not the philosophy. There are Christian philosophers but Christianity is not the philosophy.”
Sorry you’ll need to explain that one in a bit more detail, it just doesnt make sense. What are these Christian philosophers discussing what would be the point mentioning the Christian philosophers if it was not Christian philosophy they were discussing, surely if they are not discussing Christian philosophy they would just be philosophers, no.
No, it does make sense.
Christian philosophers is rather conventional term. Two or more Christian philosophers discussing Christianity are philosophers (as simple as that). Two or more Christian philosophers discussing definition of time are philosophers.
I should start from two terms: supernatural belief and inborn belief. For the clearance of this explanation I prefer not to explain these two terms.
Catechism states:
“The desire for God is written in the human heart, because man is created by God and for God; and God never ceases to draw man to himself. Only in God will he find the truth and happiness he never stops searching for. … In many ways, throughout history down to the present day, men have given expression to their quest for God in their religious beliefs and behavior: in their prayers, sacrifices, rituals, meditations, and so forth. These forms of religious expression, despite the ambiguities they often bring with them, are so universal that one may well call man a religious being” (27-28).
In another places Catechism states:
The act of faith is man’s response to God who reveals himself (see Catechism, 142).
“By faith, man completely submits his intellect and his will to God. With his whole being
man gives his assent to God the revealer” (Catechism, 143). Sacred Scripture calls this
assent “obedience of faith” (See Rom 1:5, 16:26). The virtue of faith is a supernatural
virtue which enables man, by enlightening his intellect and moving his will, to assent
firmly to all that God has revealed, not because of the intrinsic evidence but because of
the authority of God who is revealing. “Faith is first of all a personal adherence of man to
God. At the same time, and inseparably, it is a free assent to the whole truth that God has
revealed” (Catechism, 150).
Sumary: Christianity is belief in the Trinity : the Father , the Son (Jesus Christ) and the Holy Spirit. This belief do not exclude science.
Philosophy is a scienceof all things through the highest causes, obtained by natural reason. This science do not exclude belief.
Christian philosophers (conventional term) is used for the philosophers who believe that God created this world, they believe in the Holy Trinity. Therefore: St.Augustine and Karol Wojtylla were Christian philosophers. Take a note, Christian philosophers term was first used in nineteenth century, many years after St. Augustine was born but the Saint is called Christian philosopher.
St.Augustine and Karl Marx were both the philosophers but first was Christian philosopher, the second one was probably first and the best sevconian philosopher.
If you could not ask me to go into discussion on the philosophy again I would be happy.
I’ve just told my wee girl that we will not be shopping at the Celtic store again this season.
She wants a 125th strip for Christmas.
Support the people who support you.
Sort it Celtic or take the consequences.
Very sad tonight, considering our game in midweek.
UTLR.
22:36 on
16 November, 2012
Gutted that it has come to this, but the group feels it is the only way we can raise awareness within the wider support .
hh beyond a joke from what I read, we all need to stand up for the GB
I would assume the only people happy with the GB boycott are the polis
Total Class that so called Celtic men never knew anything about this
winning captains
21:54 on 16 November, 2012
celtfish – we got hundreds of pre order requests today. Paul will have the payment link sorted tomorrow – everyone who contacted us today we will send you an email. We have a limited number of copies so be quick not lazy!
Thanks for the info. No doubts it will be a collectors item as there sure hasn’t been a year like it. That’s not to say next year might be even better. :-)). Keep up the good work Paul67.
Green Brigade
Boycott
that’s what they want
ex Jungle bhoy.
I am in 111
This really is a big deal
I hate the idea of not being there but will support the GB
Those in the know please keep the info flowing
If 111 is empty perhaps others should give it some thought
Good on the GB
Benfica winning 0-1 but lights have failed,
STAND UP FOR THE GREEN BRIGADE!
STAND UP FOR THE GREEN BRIGADE!
It’s the Green Brigade today………you and me tomorrow.
C’mon Celtic, you are with us or against us!
Speak now…………
UTLR
I know from Legia Warsaw what impact this may bring on the club. This is really very bad news.
Stevo
The Green Brigade number a few thousand.
We need a total bhoycott for the same two games!
The club must be made to show their hand………or the huns have won.
Utlr
Shameful treatment by the polis …..I suspected that they were always going to use the new legislation in this fashion
If you want a wee chat please contact me ..I’d be happy to help if I can (Paul 67 has my details )
Was going to buy two tickets for both those games …not now
Kojo
If the situation continues, there will be no gb to help with the atmosphere.
Aye, it’s murder that we won,t be there for 2 games (to lend our support ,like everyone else) …. But we have to get these problems out to wider support base.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1divI2HcVPM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
UTLR.
22:45 on
16 November, 2012
Kojo
If the situation continues, there will be no gb to help with the atmosphere.
Aye, it’s murder that we won,t be there for 2 games (to lend our support ,like everyone else) …. But we have to get these problems out to wider support base.
ignore koco the clown and take PFayr up on his offer :-)
Heck..
The Only avenue.. that the Non G.B. Celtic fans..kin use…
IF..the want tae Stand Up fur the G.B. in this Matter..
Wid be tae
Tae JOIN THE BOYCOTT..
Sounds..Like…
A Great Idea..??
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm…
Mano Mano Chevitz!
Kojo.
I read this sight every day but very rarely post, we must support the good people of the GB, make no mistake, they have brought the thunder back. It’s OUR club, I will go to Celtic Park as usual for the Inverness game but will not enter.
Please support them, it’s time our custodians listened, this is far more important than shirt sponsors.
Much as it pains me to not go to the games I will support the GB and stay away for those 2 games.
Celtic Football Club is the support.
We must stand up for our own
FYI
There will be huge protest at all stadiums in Russia and Ukraine this weekend. The supporters will come in black clothes.
philbhoy
I will be with them, the only criticism I can level at them is they make me feel old.
I envy their energy. I sit close by them, they do nothing in the stadium to draw attention of the police, they are the life and soul of the party, so to speak.
If the stewards are being picky they jump around at points, someone might get injured that’s it, but it is unlikely, they are friends having fun. No malice involved. They laugh and enjoy it.
From where I sit there is no drunkenness, or any hit of violence.
Just supporters having a good time at the game.
You’d think the police have actual crimes to investigate rather than pestering a group of football fans for being too “feniany”.
I would like to think the GB could find another way to protest. The board might not be too bothered this year as they have the season book ££’s, but it could be a marker for next year.
In 1978 a friend was lifted out of the Jungle for nothing
first offence fined £125 back in the day when £125
was a shit load.
celtictom
If, a young supporter was arrested for having a bottle of water, and taken away, then that is a disgrace. Not that the possession was not illegal, it is under Scottish criminal law, but that there is such an offence in the first place. Coincidentally, for those of us that were there, this particular legislation, Thatchers, Criminal Justice (Scotland) Act 1981, (check your tickets) was the direct result of Rangers fans rioting (and Celtic supporters reacting) after the Scottish Cup final of 1980. As such it is an offence to take a plastic bottle of water, juice, etc into any football ground in Scotland. But not in England. You can have a boiling hot cup of coffee though. Anybody prepared to sing through a whole match should be able to drink from a bottle of water. For that to be criminal, and to use it to criminalise a young supporter, is an abuse of power.
Green Brigade bhoycotting Celtic Park next two matches in protest against Police brutality.
I for one will be joining them.
UTLR