Green/Whyte enablers, racism and Ibrox security

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Have you ever seen a ‘Rangers’ director pushed by a journalist on a question he dodged before yesterday?  It’s never happened.  STV’s Peter Smith did something no journalist in the history of Scottish football has done before, pressed a question when the man in charge at Ibrox dodged the initial inquiry.  Smith dismissed the deserved praise that came his way last night by suggesting it’s what a journalist does.  True, but refreshing nonetheless.

I was reminded last night that Green’s examination by the old media has come earlier in his journey to the bottom that Craig Whyte’s did last season.  Whyte was being backed by some, let’s call them enablers, right up until the week before Rangers went into administration.  Unfortunately for Green some in the media, and perhaps a few in the support, were embarrassed by their backing of Whyte last year and will not repeat the mistake.

Apart from the aforementioned Green, I have only ever known one person to use the word “darkie” (I missed 1970s ‘comedians’).  He was born in the first years of the 20th century, too young for the first war and too old to be conscripted for the second.  Well into his 90s, I heard him say “there are a lot of darkies on TV these days”.  He was reprimanded and immediately realised what he had done.  An apology and a period of over-compensation followed.

It falls to SFA president Campbell Ogilvie to ensure that such language has no place in Scottish football.  Disciplinary proceedings should be issued, unless, of course, the SFA view the matter in a different light.  Any future appearance of a Charles Green image on a banner or effigy at Celtic Park, or use of the words ‘Our New Hero’ to describe him, should not be regarded as an endorsement of his views, only his work in football.

Celtic minstrels will write songs about him, I have heard the words “man-love” being used this week.

Will Newco stay active long enough for Craig Whyte’s security over Ibrox, crystallised by yesterday’s ruling that he owes Ticketus circa £17m and therefore had a piece of the action at Rangers after all, to have an effect?  There are so many icebergs around Newco probably not.

It was interesting to hear Manchester United’s endorsement of Newco as a potential English Premier League club being debated on STV.  Now out of Europe, Manchester United were asked if they would play a fundraiser at Ibrox later this month.  I hope Green’s comments on the interview don’t spoil relations.

I was pleased to hear we were drawn at home for the next game but for pity’s sake, sending Motherwell to Tannadice the day before defeats the point. This is a complete failure.

Add this to the fact that Fraser Forster’s biggest fan is making his First Holy Communion when we are at home to St Johnstone on 11 May and you get a taste of the frustration in our house last night.

He realises the importance of his First Communion but thought we could cancel the party afterwards and have an alternative celebration at Celtic Park. We’ll distract him on the day…..

As many of you are already aware, the Celtic Trust have arranged a process whereby, if you live in Scotland, you can easily contact your MSP to back the FAC call for an inquiry into policing at the Gallowgate last month.  You can find the information and template here, go do it.
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  1. Dead and Loving it on

    setting free the bears

     

     

    I know what you mean, but I think that 95% of them would never except a watered down version of the Rangers.

     

     

    They are the most arrogant and elitist fans that I have ever known, so playing anywhere other that ibrox is not a option.

     

     

    They want to keep everything no matter what, they will never take the blame for anything.

  2. Dead and Loving it on

    sipsini

     

     

    Again I think we give the masons to much credit, but agree they should be dead and buried.

     

     

    The Lns was a shambles , as for the BTC that has a way to go.

     

     

    I am begging to think that I am addicted to the shambles that is Sevco.

  3. the boy jinky

     

     

    23:16 on 10 April, 2013

     

    The rangers festival …

     

     

    Doubt they would get it organised quick enough for this year but….

     

    As an annual event….. cup final weekend would be a suitable date as that will be a regular free weekend for them

     

     

    The 12th july would suit the country better though… imagine a weekend without them

     

     

    250k zombies in a field…. in tents and camper vans…

     

     

    a massive greggs stall.

     

     

    Save a fortune in portaloo costs cos they piss where they fall.

     

     

    Buckfast on tap… blue nun ( too far tbj)

     

     

    Orange juice… the bluebells… the blue nile… and that screeching scots banshee amy mcdonald.

     

     

    Kulture eh :)

     

    just wondering if tents come in xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxl

  4. praecepta

     

     

    I agree with the greater part of that.

     

     

    I don’t think the SPL and SFA powerbrokers will have it all their own way however in dictating how this reconstruction to let them back in, will look.

     

     

    There will be heavy influence brought to bear by politicians of all hues. Alex will not want to be seen to have Sevco die on his watch; some of the bears do vote SNP and he does not want to antagonise the politically apathetic, among them, into a NO vote. The Tories will want to woo them too as their “traditional” ally and may sweeten the pill for opposite reasons to Alex. Labour and the Liberals will not want to be seen as inactive when a “great institution” dies so, only The Green Party may be allowed to stay aloof from the scene.

     

     

    I have never expected Rangers fans to believe that they were following a new team. They can remain delusional as far as I care. I was never obsessed by them; my obsession was with the official record book and fair & equal administration. If PL can persuade the power-brokers to recognise reality and accept that this is, officially, a new club, and that the old club’s history is dead and cannot be bought and brought back to life, they can re-appear in any division they like, as far as I am concerned.

  5. I’m sure I recall Chuckles telling the guns in a meeting in a jakey looking pub that Arsenal would hand back the shares sold by Craigy boy and a prestigous friendly at the Emirates had been pencilled in for the first week in August.

  6. Dead and Loving It

     

     

    One liquidation did not teach them any humility, I agree.

     

     

    I think that a second death might give them pause.

     

     

    Ask yourself how you would feel and choose if the options were:-

     

     

    1) Wait an indeterminate period of years, without football, till the courts decide who owns the old Rangers and then start back as before.

     

     

    2) Bite the bullet and support a new club that has, maybe, half of the original support the old club had.

  7. squire danaher on

    From BBC website

     

     

    Interesting comments at the end by Brendan Rodgers

     

     

    Thatcher silence ‘a hopeless ask’

     

    10 April 2013 Updated 19:38

     

     

    Former Conservative minister David Mellor says asking football to mark the death of Baroness Thatcher with a one-minute silence is a “hopeless request”.

     

    Former Prime Minister Thatcher died in London on Monday, aged 87, after suffering a stroke.

     

    “I think it would make a dismal spectacle and we should not try and do it,” Mellor told BBC Radio 5 live.

     

    But Premiership rugby clubs Saracens and Exeter will mark Lady Thatcher’s death before home matches this weekend.

     

    Saracens will observe a minute’s silence before they play Worcester Warriors at Allianz Park on Sunday.

     

    And Exeter have told BBC Sport that they will do likewise ahead of their game against London Irish on the same day.

     

    When contacted London Irish said that discussions between their team manager and the club’s chief executive had taken place and that: “if Exeter have made that decision, then London Irish will respect that decision.”

     

    One-minute silences were not held in the Premier League when former Prime Ministers James Callaghan and Edward Heath died. However, respects were paid after the death of the Queen Mother.

     

    Wigan chairman Dave Whelan and his Reading counterpart Sir John Madejski want football to mark the death of Baroness Thatcher, who was Conservative prime minister from 1979 to 1990, with a one-minute silence.

     

    But the Premier League and Football League will not ask clubs to mark Lady Thatcher’s death at forthcoming games.

     

    It will be left to individual clubs to decide whether they want to pay tribute. It is understood the Football Association has no plans at present to mark her death.

     

    Mellor, the first person to fulfil the role of Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, said: “I think it’s a hopeless request.

     

    “I see both sides of Margaret Thatcher, but it doesn’t matter if she was the greatest peacetime prime minister, there is no point in asking football to have a minute’s silence that lots of people will not observe.

     

    “There is no respect for Margaret Thatcher’s memory in a situation where you effectively invite a significant proportion, I suspect, of most football crowds to opt out or behave badly.”

     

    Following Madejski’s comments, Reading said they will hold a minute’s silence before Saturday’s home fixture against Liverpool – to mark the 24th anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster.

     

    “I think it is the only minute’s silence there should be,” said Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers.

     

    “We are entering into a stage of remembrance here for 96 people that died going to a football game and for the families who have, for many years, suffered and have just about got some sort of justification in the last year.

     

    “For me that is our only remembrance at the game on Saturday.”

  8. mhark67

     

     

    Praying for your wee lassie. Hope and pray it works in the positive for your wee treasure. :))

     

     

    Weefra HH

  9. Sir Walter bolting again when the going gets tough, he’s getting as sleekit as Fat McCoist.

  10. Dead and Loving it on

    setting free the bears

     

     

    I just don’t think they will do watered down,We would choose the second option, they don’t have our mindset.

     

     

    I think they would spend most of the time on their civil unrest activities.

  11. sftb

     

     

    Political machinations will be wasted on the knuckle-draggers – they just want to follow the band (or in their case the walk) whatever the reincarnation.

     

     

    Celtic (PL + others) can be the catalyst for change whilst they are wandering in the wilderness – time to press home the advantage.

     

     

    Anyway time for me to hit the sack – Porn or Bjorn is on talkSPORT and the clues are taxing my brain. :-)

     

     

    H!H!

  12. 'crushed nuts?' 'Naw, Layringitis!' on

    Sevco supporters are cursed with the ‘…air of righteous entitlement…’©The Dignified Cardigan. They will not invest time and effort supporting a team who have little chance of winning anything meaningful for at least ten years.

     

    In any event, once chuckles & CW have finished with them, there won’t be enough left to pay for the Aldi own brand washing powder for the strips.

  13. hi ghuys,

     

    Let me tell you that I have never been so happy to be a Celtic supporter.

     

    I lurk on here a LOT lol but am always happy to do so as the posters here are so full of unbiased, checked information.

     

    I haven’t bought a paper for at least 10 years (apart from the odd sheepie gazette for the jobs page) and rely on all of the real news from internet bampots like yerselves lol.

     

    Keep up the good work.

  14. Night night Timland, and thank you all for the responses to the loss of the best working dog , and pet, I have ever had the pleasure to be allowed to be her owner. She really was a diamond. Miss her terribly.

     

     

    Weefra HH

  15. timbhoy in spain on

    WeefratheTim,

     

    So sorry tae hear aboot yer wee dug earlier.

     

    You have my deepest sympathy cos I know.

     

    Ah lost ma wee Gizzy last year oot here efter 10 years

     

    an it broke ma heart.She was 17 went blind & then deaf.

     

    Anyway ah said tae the wife no more dogs but she came in wan

     

    day wi a wee dug called Ernie who was 10 weeks auld & ah jist fell in luv wi him right away.

     

    2 days later he took no well & died wi Parva virus which we didnae know it but he hud it when she got him.

     

    Well that´s it fur me.Deffo no more dogs cos it´s jist too much tae bear when ye lose them.

     

    TAL.

  16. iPaddy McCourt on

    “All the perfumes of Arabia could not sweeten these big Yorkshire hands”

     

     

    MacbethCSC

  17. timbhoy in spain on

    gamriestu

     

     

    Pleased tae meet ye pal.

     

    ah´m like yersel mostly post oan here when ahm jist sittin here late at night in spain huvin a wee dram.

     

    Wife´s in her bed so jist lookin for a wee bit o chit chat noo an again..

     

    Normally ah write in ” proper ingish but when ahve had a few I start writing in Glesca or a mixture. Hic

  18. Dead and Loving it on

    timbhoy in spain

     

     

    I usually get a shout from my sleeping beauty round about now, ur ye still oan that laptop.

  19. Dead and Loving it on

    iPaddy McCourt

     

    01:07 on

     

    11 April, 2013

     

    “All the perfumes of Arabia could not sweeten these big Yorkshire grabbing hands”

     

     

    MacbethCSC

     

     

    Fixed that for you

  20. timbhoy in spain on

    Ah´ve been here 10 years & ah´m gettin on a bit.

     

    left Scotland in 1976 but ah still luv the Tic mair than ever.

     

    Even thinkin aboot comin back tae Glesca fur the final countdown

  21. the daily rectum

     

    The investigation was launched after a report was sent to Strathclyde Police by Duff and Phelps, the accountancy firm that carried out the controversial administration

     

     

    if this is correct

     

    then the police must have info from else where

     

    also it must be about the sale to sevco 5088/sevco scotland

     

     

    maybe duff and duffer have not done the right paperwork

     

     

    hope the sfa and RCO might have to explain why a club without audited accounts

     

    gained a licence

     

    and would they issue another licence to a club if they failed to produce audited accounts in their first year of membership

     

     

    they again charles green provided them with fail proof plan

     

     

    jelly and ice cream 2

     

     

    jam67

  22. timbhoy in spain on

    Dead and Loving it

     

    01:24 on

     

    11 April, 2013

     

    miki67

     

     

    She died in a hotel in London, It should have been Brighton

     

     

    At the time ah wiz livin in Crawley aboot 20 miles fae Brighton & aw the local english boys were sayin ” Bastard-they missed her “20 seconds sooner & she wid´ve been blown tae hell

  23. Scottish Fitba?

     

     

    Who will save us from this shite?

     

    Who will save is from Hugh Dallas & his Cowboys

     

    Who will save us from the SFA?

     

    Who will save us from the MSM?

     

    Who will save us from being Patronized, like they are.

     

    We have that in common, no doubt.

     

     

    What a Feckin Farce….

  24. timbhoy in spain on

    miki67

     

     

    Ah hope you´re keepin well son.

     

    Ma thoughts & prayers are with you all the time even if ye dont know me.

     

    TAL

  25. timbhoyinspain

     

     

    So sad to lose any pet, pal, animal, we just love our pets, pals, best mates, call them what you like, we just adore them. On that note, I’m off to my kip. Night night

     

     

    Weefra HH

  26. The question has never been answered as to what ahe was doing wiith John Selwyn Gummer in a toilet in the middle of the night when the bomb rocked the place.

     

    It’s the reason she survived the direct impact of the blast and went on from bad to worse.

     

    Now we have a nation state in her image.

     

    People have developed amnesia about the levels of trouble she called. There is so much, but who remembers Brixton burning?

  27. Dead and Loving it on

    timbhoy in spain

     

     

    She has reached her final destination now, no frostbite right enough.

  28. miki67

     

     

    Praying, like you would never know, for your complete recovery. Get in there kiddo, you can do this

     

     

    Weefra HH

  29. timbhoy in spain on

    PJBhoynyc

     

     

    Hows Ny ?

     

    Dinnae worry they´re like Mission Impossible-This tape will self destruct in ….very soon

     

    ha ha

  30. timbhoy in spain:01:34 on 11 April, 2013

     

    >>>>

     

    Thank you for that. I start radiotherapy very soon (burn the bugger!) and I’m still recuperating from the pneumonia the cancer caused.

     

    However I remain upbeat and mentally strong.

     

    HH!

  31. weefrathetim

     

    >>>>>

     

    Again, my thanks. Though I’ve been told the cancer is terminal I refuse to go quietly and I will do all in my power to defeat the bugger. Ye cannae keep a good Tim down!

     

    You never know. Nothing is written in stone and I refuse to just throw inthe towel.

     

    HH!