Green/Whyte enablers, racism and Ibrox security

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Have you ever seen a ‘Rangers’ director pushed by a journalist on a question he dodged before yesterday?  It’s never happened.  STV’s Peter Smith did something no journalist in the history of Scottish football has done before, pressed a question when the man in charge at Ibrox dodged the initial inquiry.  Smith dismissed the deserved praise that came his way last night by suggesting it’s what a journalist does.  True, but refreshing nonetheless.

I was reminded last night that Green’s examination by the old media has come earlier in his journey to the bottom that Craig Whyte’s did last season.  Whyte was being backed by some, let’s call them enablers, right up until the week before Rangers went into administration.  Unfortunately for Green some in the media, and perhaps a few in the support, were embarrassed by their backing of Whyte last year and will not repeat the mistake.

Apart from the aforementioned Green, I have only ever known one person to use the word “darkie” (I missed 1970s ‘comedians’).  He was born in the first years of the 20th century, too young for the first war and too old to be conscripted for the second.  Well into his 90s, I heard him say “there are a lot of darkies on TV these days”.  He was reprimanded and immediately realised what he had done.  An apology and a period of over-compensation followed.

It falls to SFA president Campbell Ogilvie to ensure that such language has no place in Scottish football.  Disciplinary proceedings should be issued, unless, of course, the SFA view the matter in a different light.  Any future appearance of a Charles Green image on a banner or effigy at Celtic Park, or use of the words ‘Our New Hero’ to describe him, should not be regarded as an endorsement of his views, only his work in football.

Celtic minstrels will write songs about him, I have heard the words “man-love” being used this week.

Will Newco stay active long enough for Craig Whyte’s security over Ibrox, crystallised by yesterday’s ruling that he owes Ticketus circa £17m and therefore had a piece of the action at Rangers after all, to have an effect?  There are so many icebergs around Newco probably not.

It was interesting to hear Manchester United’s endorsement of Newco as a potential English Premier League club being debated on STV.  Now out of Europe, Manchester United were asked if they would play a fundraiser at Ibrox later this month.  I hope Green’s comments on the interview don’t spoil relations.

I was pleased to hear we were drawn at home for the next game but for pity’s sake, sending Motherwell to Tannadice the day before defeats the point. This is a complete failure.

Add this to the fact that Fraser Forster’s biggest fan is making his First Holy Communion when we are at home to St Johnstone on 11 May and you get a taste of the frustration in our house last night.

He realises the importance of his First Communion but thought we could cancel the party afterwards and have an alternative celebration at Celtic Park. We’ll distract him on the day…..

As many of you are already aware, the Celtic Trust have arranged a process whereby, if you live in Scotland, you can easily contact your MSP to back the FAC call for an inquiry into policing at the Gallowgate last month.  You can find the information and template here, go do it.
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  1. squire danaher on

    ‘crushed nuts?’ ‘naw, layringitis!’

     

     

    23:30 on 10 April, 2013

     

     

    Have enjoyed your posts overact few weeks

     

     

    Do you by any chance work in Paisley??

  2. Anyone think the polis may have moved the SFA to act as they are officially in the headlights?

     

    Using the racism card as well because they know the game is up and on a save face mission? Green, a patsy same as Craigy, we didn’t know defence, racism never bothered them for decades before now?

  3. St Mirren, Morton Sevco ground sharing….looking at the photos from the directors box with chuckles tonight it may happen

  4. 'crushed nuts?' 'Naw, Layringitis!' on

    Written with this evening’s celebration of ignorance in mind:

     

    “Hell is empty

     

    And all the devils are here”

     

    – William Shakespeare, The Tempest, 1.2

  5. sipsini

     

     

    There is so much to take in just now, things are happening for a reason, which will become clear soon enough.

     

     

    It’s all wild speculation at the moment, but, there is meat being put on the table, the bampots are excelling themselfs.

     

     

    The look on Chucks face in that stv thing, they way he spluttered, and his mouth was dry, a sure sign of a liar, the desperate trying to recall his previous lies, could have in other circs felt sorry for the man >}

     

     

    To see a man crumble like that was….well it was…..

     

     

    HH

  6. TET

     

     

    Cheers mate – will look out for email.

     

     

    Got a meet with the Spanish manufacturer in London in May – might result in a trip to Santander. If so – believe there’s a direct internal flight to Barca and a chance for a few days meet-up.

     

     

    H!H!

  7. garygillespieshamstring on

    Sorry,

     

     

    Fleg.

     

     

    Bloody predictive text. Had enough trouble stopping it calling you kinky!:)

  8. Silver City 1888 on

    Sftb

     

    One of my favourites might apply

     

    “stand not upon the order of thy going but go”

  9. How many companies has chuckles walked from… sure I read 31…probably with cash in his big yorkshire hands everytime.

     

    He wants pushed out the door with a promise of money on his shares…his

     

    retirement fund?

     

    Only time will tell what is left of the corpse by the time he leaves and we can enjoy every minute.

     

    Thems will be back though more bitter and twisted than ever.

  10. No1 daughter hurt herself during her dance rehearsals so I am now sitting in A&E at Salford Royal waiting on someone to assess her injury…. 4 hours and counting..( cheers maggie)… She is fine she is asleep on the treatment bed

     

    her ma and me are knackered and starving …. However I at least have had CQN to keep ME amused

     

    however the missus……. Well I think she was less than impressed with the CQN updates I was giving her!!! Lol

  11. 'crushed nuts?' 'Naw, Layringitis!' on

    squire danaher

     

     

    23:37 on

     

    10 April, 2013

     

    >>>>>>>>>>

     

    That would be an ecumenical matter!:-) )))

  12. timbhoy in spain on

    MHARK67

     

     

    Hope your wee wan is ok pal.

     

    Ah´m jist sittin here on ma todd.

     

    The wife´s jist went tae bed( Thank God)

  13. praecepta and TET

     

     

    I think they will accept that, with the scam blown, they are now going to have to resurrect the hard way.

     

     

    How hard is it for a team to carve its way through the Scottish football divisions? Gretna went from non-league to SPL and a SC final in jig time. They went bust, I know, but Miles did not have that much spare cash to begin with. QOTS just won promotion to Div. 1 with a 300k budget.

     

     

    Sevco’s model of SPL wages and a squad with 7 internationals (Alexander, McCulloch, Wallace, Shiels, Little, Kyle & Black) a promising young player (Templeton) and some foreign Mercenaries who were U-21 internationals or had Serie A experience (Cribari, Faure and Argyriou), plus the selection of their best from the youth team, was a model that suggested they had real doubt in their ability to get out of the division.

     

     

    A squad with a QOTS level budget would have been able to swamp that division and get promoted. A slight increase would guarantee a succesive promotion from Div.2. Only when they got to Div. 1 would they need an average SPL budget to have a fighting chance of promotion.

     

     

    Their 3rd Division spend speaks either to a desire to burn money quickly and go bust (The Producers scenario) or they expected a restructuring straight back to the SPL after Armageddon. Maybe they are that stupid that they believed we would beg them back because they are a large crowd.

     

     

    The SPL may miss their money but not their attitude and their unreconstructed arrogance. They wanted back, not at any price, but with the whip hand again.

     

     

    Now, they may be forced to look at the more honest route of hard work and paying your way.

     

     

    If their old club badge and their old stomping ground are tied up as booty of the court for a long while, they will have to re-form, re-apply (and I expect room will be made for them) and rent from some willing soul, whether that be Queen’s Park, St. Mirren or Cowdenbeath (or Murrayfield)

     

     

    Alternatively they may just buy a bust club and move it to Glasgow but where will they play?

  14. Cheers all

     

    doctor with her now and it looks like badly bruised ribs but no fractures or breaks so that’s a relief I will pass on your good wishes as like her da she loves the hoops and it will cheer her up

  15. Dead and Loving it on

    I dont think that anybody would be in a position to move in and take over the huns, I reckon on a few court cases to establish who owns what and who done what.

     

     

    I think the old guard thought that they would be better protected than they have been, I also think we give them to much credit for planning all this, they where that clever that they totally underestimated the new media and the affect it would have on them, now they have a runaway train.

     

     

    I also reckon that BDO have still to show their hand, all these things take time.

     

     

    Even the likes of McColl would not get involved in something where the outcome was far from certain.

     

    The place is toxic, they have caused another Chernobyl in glasgow.

  16. squire danaher on

    ‘crushed nuts?’ ‘naw, layringitis!’

     

     

    23:30 on 10 April, 2013

     

     

     

    Knew it was you LOL

  17. sftb

     

     

    I agree that reality is setting in.

     

     

    When all this started, I doubt any of us realised the depth of corruption they had sunk to, but as things are very slowly coming to the surface, the worse things are looking for them.

     

     

    I honestly never thought that it was as bad as it is, but they are now commited to saving them, and they will save them come what may.

     

     

    It may not be a hun team as we now know them, but i can not see there not being a hun team playing in scotland, can you ?

     

     

    I tell you what, I will wager now, that if it comes to pass that they are on the verge of dodo land, the government will save them.

     

     

    have to go sleep now, been a stressfull few days.

     

     

    Take care and god bless Timland

     

     

    HH

  18. 'crushed nuts?' 'Naw, Layringitis!' on

    Chuckles’ reference:

     

     

    He would drown the stage with tears,

     

    And cleave the general ear with horrid speech,

     

    Make mad the guilty, and appal the free,

     

    Confound the ignorant, and amaze, indeed,

     

    The very faculties of eyes and ears.”

     

    – William Shakespeare, Hamlet, 2.2

  19. 'crushed nuts?' 'Naw, Layringitis!' on

    squire danaher

     

     

    00:07 on 11 April, 2013

     

    >>>>>>>>

     

    I assume you also earn an honest crust in Scotland’s largest town?

  20. Dead and Loving It

     

     

    Though the real Rangers and their zombie identity will both be tied up in a court fight and unable to play, a solution will be found that allows the 40 or 50k regular home attenders to have a team to tide them over until the court decides.

     

     

    Whether that is a buy-over e.g. Dunfermline or an arrangement with a willing club at whatever level, St. Mirren, Kilmarnock or Cowdenbeath to share their history and have their crowd swell theirs, I believe some solution will be found.

     

     

    No one wants all those fans to walk away from the game of football.

     

     

    Some diehards may want purity and start Rangers again at amateur level. Some might accept starting as a small club and use Clyde’s old ground, for example. But most will look for a way to have Senior football action, even if that means Div. 3 again. There won’t be 46 k of them this time round but they might get 20 to 25 k regulars willing to not walk away.

     

     

    I have never demanded or expected that their fans go away. They love football too. I only wanted fair administration of rules and a change of attitude from them.

     

     

    I think they will be here in some shape or form but I do not expect to hear nonsense about them being officially the same club. They can still claim that they are the same support however, that seems reasonable to me.

  21. dead and loving it

     

     

    00:06 on11 April, 2013

     

     

    After the btc and the lns I wouldn’t be surprised by anything.

     

    I no what you’re saying and if it wasn’t in this masonic ridden country, they would have been buried but the zombies are still here…why?

     

    I’m enjoying every minute of their demise and letting all the huns I work with know.

  22. TET

     

     

    Thanks to you and Mrs TET for a great day out. We got bus home no problem but getting past our local bar on way to flat proved more of an obstacle than climbing the hill behind El Alhambra. :)

  23. RobertTressell

     

    22:43 on

     

    10 April, 2013

     

     

    I think its called the End Game. The club that screwed itself to death.

  24. sftb

     

     

    I am going out on a limb here…………… but I am leaning towards the option that the ‘SPL Consensus’ are now looking at how best they can manage/ manipulate them for the benefit of the game (and their Clubs).

     

     

    The money they generate has an influence (no matter how deplorable) – but their credibility (power-brokering) has seen its day.

     

     

    Make no mistake – they will be accommodated but I doubt long-term they will dictate policy – we (PL/ Thomson/ Milne and hopefully a few others) will be driving the bus.

     

     

    Am not unduly worried if League reconstruction falls at the 1st hurdle – we will have 2/3/4 more bites at setting the agenda before they regain ‘minnow’ status.

     

     

    I doubt they will be remotely close to re-establishing themselves (3 years accounts etc) by season 2016-17.

     

     

    They will be football Itinerants for a few years to come!