Guidetti, life without the death-wish opponent

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I see the story that Feyenoord are chasing John Guidetti has lasted more days than I expected.  John Guidetti is a likeable guy and seems to have enjoyed his time at Celtic, but he desperately needs to show some form before the end of the season if he is to attract the attention of Feyenoord or any team of that calibre.

One aspect often overlooked about Guidetti is his inexperience.  The player is still only 22 and had started only 30 games before arriving at Celtic Park last season, there’s a good chance that by the end of the season he will have played more games for Celtic than anyone else.  On paper, a season at Celtic was a chance to sort his career out, grab first team football at a prestigious club who were short of a centre forward.  Conversely, being kept out of the team by Leigh Griffiths will damage his reputation.

Barcabhoy sent me an interesting summary of Celtic’s material loss since the liquidation of Rangers.  The figures below compare the three years before Rangers liquidation with the two and a half years since.

As you see, even though we are comparing a shorter time period after liquidation, Celtic’s turnover and profitability is still miles better than when we had to compete with Rangers.

This should end any nonsense about Celtic needing or in any way missing Rangers.  We lost some revenue streams: domestic commercial and ticket income, but the slipstream to European revenues have more than made up for the gap.  More importantly, we are also no longer caught in an arms race with a death-risk opponent, allowing us to bring costs below income and plan longer than the current season.

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  1. goodnight Timland

     

     

    and for all you lucky bhoys and ghirls getting to the game tomorrow night …….

     

     

    just one more sleep …..enjoy

     

     

    HH

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    To MWD..or Any Apple heads..

     

     

     

    Q: is there a Quicker way to refresh the Page other than clicking the Time Stamp of the last Post then clicking the 3 dots.. Then Clicking the ‘C’..

     

     

    TIA..

     

     

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  3. We Are On The Cusp Of A Treble………

     

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    So Shut Up Moaning……Is Now my Stock Reply …..

     

    Warning to all CQN Bitches….

  4. weet weet weet(GBWO) on

    Sixty-three players and 24 staff are said to have received payouts.

     

     

    Ex-skipper Barry Ferguson leads the list of players who received vast sums of cash over and above their normal salaries.

     

     

    He pocketed £2.49million, according to figures obtained by BBC Scotland.

     

     

    Former manager Alex McLeish got £1.7million and German keeper Stefan Klos was given £2million.

     

     

    Striker Nacho Novo and Dutch midfielder Ronald De Boer netted £1.2million each.

     

     

    But some of the sums involved were comparatively small. Former defender Steven Smith got just £7500.

     

     

    And Ibrox icon Graeme Souness received £30,000 from the trust in 2001 – 10 years after leaving the club.

     

     

    It’s unclear why a payment was made to Murray’s close friend Souness a decade after his involvement at Ibrox officially ended,

     

     

    EBTs were used by the rich to avoid paying tax.

     

     

    They are the root of HMRC’s Big Tax Case that helped plunge Rangers into crisis and is threatening to destroy the club’s 140-year history.

     

     

    Rangers set up the trusts for 87 players and staff – then paid cash into them in addition to paying wages.

     

     

    Money is then paid out in the form of a tax-free “loan” from the EBT. In practice, the loan is never repaid.

     

     

    The recipients avoid paying the PAYE and National Insurance that millions of ordinary workers stump up at source.

     

     

    From 2001-10, Rangers put £47million into dozens of sub-trusts for players, coaches and staff.

     

     

    Dutch goalkeeper Ronald Waterreus’s agent questioned the scheme when he joined Rangers in 2005.

     

     

    His agent was told by a club representative that using the trust was “in the interests of Ronald as it enables him to receive funds tax-free”. Murray last night insisted to the BBC that he had never received any payment from any trust which involved direct contributions from Rangers.

     

     

    Rangers’ annual accounts from 2001 to 2010 show the Glasgow club invested a total of £47.659million to the Murray Group Remuneration Trust.

     

     

    Separate contributions were made by Rangers’ parent company, Murray International Holdings, of at least £10million.

     

     

    Funds were deposited by Rangers and MIH into the Jersey-based trust, which was then divided into sub-trusts for the benefit of players, coaching staff, directors and other employees in the form of the tax-free loans.

     

     

    A further 24 Murray Group employees benefited from the scheme, currently the subject of a tax tribunal at the Court of Session in Edinburgh.

     

     

    If Rangers lose the tribunal, they will be liable to repay the money, with interest, as well as a penalty for tax avoidance.

     

     

    The total bill including penalties could hit £134million, according to administrators now running Rangers.

     

     

    Tax adviser Paul Baxendale-Walker, who brought the EBT scheme to the Murray Group, told the BBC: “The problem as we all know is how Rangers implemented the structure, how they drove the bus.”

     

     

    The SPL launched an investigation into the scheme back in March after allegations by former Ibrox director Hugh Adam that Rangers made undisclosed payments and deliberately excluded then from players’ contracts.

     

     

    Adam, who left Rangers in 2002, said directors were well aware of the double contracts, but were unwilling to challenge Murray.

     

     

    SPL rules state that all payments made to players in respect of their earnings from football must be declared by their club.

     

     

    SPL lawyers Harper Macleod are looking into dealings back to the league’s formation in 1998.

     

     

    In a statement released hours before the BBC’s expose last night, the SPL said: “The investigation into the EBT payments made by Rangers FC is being actively pursued on behalf of the SPL.

     

     

    “All relevant documents, materials and information have been sought from Rangers FC and we look forward to receiving full co-operation from the club and administrators in providing everything that it and they have access to and which is required for the investigation to be completed.”

     

     

    Murray has denied he handed out double contracts during his 23-year spell at Ibrox.

     

     

    He said: “I’ve looked through every year to check my facts and there were no double contracts. Categorically, there were no dual contracts.”

     

     

    Football forums and websites were ablaze with reaction last night to the EBTs revelations.

     

     

    Mark Dingwall, of the Rangers Supporters Trust, was despondent when the Record contacted him last night.

     

     

    He said: “I’m still going over it in my mind, I don’t know what to think right now.”

     

     

    And fans swamped supporters’ websites.

     

     

    One fan calling himself True Blue, said: “What a convoluted mess – just keeps getting uglier day by day.”

     

     

    Lisburn Rangers added: “Murray, Whyte and Duff & Phelps, may you rot in Hell.”

     

     

    Burnistoun comic Robert Florence tweeted a dig at former Rangers striker Nacho Novo, who joined Walter Smith on a fans march on Sunday.

     

     

    He tweeted: “Will @nnovo1010 be giving that EBT cash he took to the Rangers Fighting Fund?”

     

     

    WHO GOT WHAT FROM THE DODGE?

     

     

    Alan Hutton £364,000

     

     

    Hutton made his debut in 2002 and featured in 94 Rangers games, before a £9million move to Spurs.

     

     

    Alex McLeish £1.7million

     

     

    McLeish managed Rangers from 2001-06.

     

     

    Alex Rae £569,000

     

     

    Midfielder who arrived at Ibrox in 2004 and spent two years there. He played 34 games and scored once.

     

     

    Andrei Kanchelskis £145,000

     

     

    Russian winger arrived from Fiorentina in 1998 for £5.5million. Moved four years later to Southampton.

     

     

    Andrew Dickson £33,000

     

     

    Head of football administration at Rangers since 2003. Previously financial controller at Ibrox club.

     

     

    Arthur Numan £510,000

     

     

    Dutch full-back arrived at Rangers from PSV Eindhoven in 1998 for £4.5million. Played 118 times.

     

     

    Barry Ferguson £2.5million

     

     

    Former youth player who became Rangers captain. Played at Ibrox from 1996-2003 and 2005-2009.

     

     

    Bert Konterman £300,000

     

     

    Dutch defender signed by Dick Advocaat for £4.5million in 2000. Played 79 matches for Rangers.

     

     

    Bert Van Lingen £65,000

     

     

    Assistant manager under Dick Advocaat from 1998 to 2002.

     

     

    Billy Dodds £190,000

     

     

    Arrived in a £1.5million deal from Dundee United. Scored 21 goals in four years.

     

     

    Bob Malcolm £125,000

     

     

    Central defender started his career with Rangers in 1997. Played 88 games. Left for Derby County in 2006.

     

     

    Campbell Ogilvie £95,000

     

     

    At club from 1978 to 2005 as general secretary and later a director. Now SFA president.

     

     

    Carlos Cuellar £448,255

     

     

    Spanish centre-half arrived from Osasuna in deal worth £2.37million in 2007. Moved to Aston Villa in 2008.

     

     

    Chris Burke £55,000

     

     

    Started career at Rangers, playing 96 games from 2002 to 2009. Left for Cardiff City.

     

     

    Christian Nerlinger £1.8million

     

     

    German midfielder signed from Borrusia Dortmund in 2001 and left in 2004.

     

     

    Claudio Caniggia £1million

     

     

    Argentinian World Cup finalist signed from Dundee for £1million in 2001. He played 50 timess.

     

     

    Craig Moore £1.1million

     

     

    Australian centre-half played more than 90 games from 1994-1998. Returned in 1999 and stayed until 2005.

     

     

    Dado Prso £1.9million

     

     

    Croatian striker was free transfer in 2004. Scored 50 goals in 108 games. Left for Dinamo Zagreb in 2007.

     

     

    Dan Eggen £68,000

     

     

    Norwegian central defender signed in 2003 from Spanish club Alaves. Did not appear for the first team.

     

     

    Sir David Murray £6.3million

     

     

    Owned club from 1988-2011. They won 15 titles and 26 cups. Sold shares to Craig Whyte for £1.

     

     

    Dick Advocaat £1.5million

     

     

    Rangers manager from 1998-2002. Spent almost £74million to win five trophies, including two titles.

     

     

    Douglas Odam £119,000

     

     

    Finance director for 15 years. Left club in 2003 to take up a role within Sir David Murray’s business empire.

     

     

    Egil Ostenstad £370,000

     

     

    Norwegian forward signed from Blackburn on free transfer in 2003. No goals in his 11 games.

     

     

    Fernando Ricksen £684,225

     

     

    Dutch right-back signed in 2000 from AZ Alkmaar for £3.75million. Scored 13 times in 182 games. Left in 2006.

     

     

    Federico Nieto £24,500

     

     

    Argentine striker joined on loan deal in 2005 from Almagro. Scored once in three matches.

     

     

    Gavin Rae £376,000

     

     

    Midfielder joined Rangers from Dundee in 2004 for a fee of £250,000. Transferred to Cardiff in 2007.

     

     

    George Adams £30,000

     

     

    Ex-player was head of youth development between 2003-2005.

     

     

    Graeme Souness £30,000

     

     

    Player-manager of Rangers from 1986-1991.

     

     

    Gregory Vignal £173,000

     

     

    French defender joined on loan from Liverpool in 2004 and played 43 times. Joined Portsmouth in 2005.

     

     

    Ian McGuinness £25,400

     

     

    Ibrox club doctor was sacked after Paul Le Guen left. Moved on to Newcastle United and then joined Aston Villa.

     

     

    Ian Murray £95,000

     

     

    Midfielder was free transfer from Hibernian in 2006. Played 43 games. Left in 2007.

     

     

    Jan Wouters £285,000

     

     

    Former Dutch midfielder joined as a coach under Dick Advocaat, then Alex McLeish. Left in 2006.

     

     

    Jean-Alain Boumsong £630,000

     

     

    French centre-half joined in 2004 on free transfer. Signed for Newcastle for £8million after just 18 games.

     

     

    Jerome Bonnissel £48,000

     

     

    French left-back arrived in 2003 from Bordeaux. Played three games before joining Fulham.

     

     

    Jesper Christiansen £320,000

     

     

    Danish goalkeeper signed in 2000 as injury cover. Played three times and left in 2004.

     

     

    Joel Le Hir £28,275

     

     

    Paul Le Guen appointed physiotherapist from 2006 to 2007. Now with Le Guen at Oman national team.

     

     

    John Greig £40,000

     

     

    Played for club from 1961-1978. Manage Rangers from 1978 to 1983. Later became a director.

     

     

    John McClelland £225,000

     

     

    Appointed a director in 2000. Was chairman from 2002 to 2004. Resigned as non-executive director last year.

     

     

    Julien Rodriguez £638,000

     

     

    French centre-half signed from Monaco in 2005 for £1million. Played 34 matches then left for Marseille in 2007.

     

     

    Kevin Muscat £1million

     

     

    Australian defender joined from Wolves in 2002 on free transfer. Played 22 games. Joined Millwall in 2003.

     

     

    Kris Boyd £215,000

     

     

    Signed from Kilmarnock in 2006 for £500,000. Scored 101 goals. Joined Middlesbrough in 2010.

     

     

    Libor Sionko £178,000

     

     

    Czech midfielder signed from Austria Vienna in 2006. Played 18 matches. Joined Copenhagen in 2007.

     

     

    Lorenzo Amoruso £639,000

     

     

    Italian defender cost £4m from Fiorentina in 1997. Moved to Blackburn Rovers for £1.4million in 2003.

     

     

    Martin Bain £249,000

     

     

    Chief executive of Rangers from 2005 to 2011. Resigned after David Murray sold club to Craig Whyte for £1.

     

     

    Marvin Andrews £316,025

     

     

    Centre-half from Trinidad and Tobago joined from Livingston in 2004. Played 43 matches, scoring four times.

     

     

    Maurice Ross £120,000

     

     

    Played 78 games for Rangers from 2000 to 2005, before moving to Sheffield Wednesday.

     

     

    Michael Ball £1.4m

     

     

    English left-back signed from Everton in 2001 for £6.5million. Played 55 games. Joined PSV Eindhoven in 2005.

     

     

    Michael Mols £260,000

     

     

    Dutch striker joined Rangers under Dick Advocaat. He arrived in 1999 and spent five years at Ibrox.

     

     

    Mikel Arteta £674,603

     

     

    Spanish midfielder joined in 2002 and played 50 matches, scoring 12 goals. Moved to Everton.

     

     

    Nacho Novo £1.2m

     

     

    Spanish striker joined in 2004 from Dundee for £450,000. Played 178 games in six years, scoring 47 times.

     

     

    Neil McCann £500,000

     

     

    Winger joined from Hearts in 1998 for £2million and played more than 100 games. Now a media pundit for Sky Sports.

     

     

    Nuno Capucho £970,000

     

     

    Portugal winger who arrived in 2003 for £700,000. Featured in 22 games, scoring five goals.

     

     

    Olivier Bernard £224,000

     

     

    French defender arrived on a free transfer in 2005. Played nine times.

     

     

    Paolo Vanoli £592,000

     

     

    Italian left-back joined from Bologna in 2003 and played in 28 matches for Rangers, scoring once.

     

     

    Paul Le Guen £201,250

     

     

    French manager replaced Alex McLeish in 2006. Left in January 2007 after a string of poor results.

     

     

    Pedro Mendes £1million

     

     

    Portuguese midfielder joined in 2008 for £3million. Played 39 games and joined Vitória Guimarães in 2010.

     

     

    Peter Lovenkrands £902,000

     

     

    Danish winger arrived in 2000 from Akademisk Boldklub for £1.3million. Played 129 games and scored 37 times.

     

     

    Robert Reilly £105,000

     

     

    Rangers’ commercial director and helped generate income for the Ibrox club.

     

     

    Ronald De Boer £1.2million

     

     

    Dutch midfielder joined in 2000 under Dick Advocaat. Scored 39 goals in four years for the club.

     

     

    Ronald Waterreus £510,000

     

     

    Dutch goalkeeper joined Rangers in 2004 from Manchester City. Played 49 matches for the Ibrox club.

     

     

    Sasa Papac £319,000

     

     

    Bosnian left-back arrived in 2006 from Austria Vienna for £450,000. Played 161 games. Left in May 2012.

     

     

    Sotirios Kyrgiakos £532,200

     

     

    Greek centre-half signed from Panathinaikos in 2005. Left in 2006. Played 54 matches and scored once.

     

     

    Stefan Klos £2million

     

     

    German international keeper signed in 1999 for £800,000. Played more than 200 times. Left in 2007 to join Bayer Leverkusen.

     

     

    Stephane Wiertelak £28,275

     

     

    French fitness-physiotherapy coach joined Rangers in 2006 under Le Guen. Now works at Rennes.

     

     

    Steven Davis £600,000

     

     

    Northern Ireland midfielder and club captain. Played more than 140 times, scoring 17 goals.

     

     

    Steven Smith £7500

     

     

    Defender came through youth ranks and made debut in 2004. Moved to Norwich then on to US side Portland Timbers.

     

     

    Steven Thompson £485,000

     

     

    Joined from Dundee Utd in 2003 for £200,000. Left in 2006 to join Cardiff City.

     

     

    Tero Penttila £140,000

     

     

    Finnish defender joined in 1999 for £300,000 from Haka Valkeakoski. Left Rangers in 2002 to join HJK Helsinki.

     

     

    Thomas Buffel £1.2million

     

     

    Belgian midfielder joined in 2005 for £2.3million from Feyenoord. Scored 11 goals and left in 2008.

     

     

    Tore Andre Flo £1.3million

     

     

    Norwegian striker joined from Chelsea in 2000 for £12million. Scored 39 times for Rangers. Sold for £6.75million to Sunderland in 2002.

     

     

    Yves Colleau £106,200

     

     

    Former French midfielder served as assistant to Paul Le Guen at Rennes, Lyon and Rangers from 2006 to 2007.

     

     

    Zurab Khizanishvili £405,000

     

     

    Georgian defender joined on a free transfer from Dundee in 2003. Moved to Blackburn Rovers in 2005.

  5. Nice one Tony- nice to take the bookies money!

     

     

    last minute equaliser by Rotheram cost me a ton, got my stake back not quite as good as you can imagine.

  6. Thomas Buffel

     

     

    LOLZ

     

     

    Mind the patter we had to listen to and read about that tool :-)

  7. Hamiltontim, Great spot, has a holiday feel to the place. Great food, great scenery, very big Glasgow Celtic connection.

     

     

    Anyway have a great time. Look at Ballyliffin, if you get a chance.

     

     

    Art of War,

     

     

    No pressure. Well said tonight. I will go to Mass in the morning and think about the family.

     

     

    Clogher

  8. Summa of Sammi….

     

     

    or click on the wee curly wurly thing at the top left of the page por cierto

  9. Por Cietro..

     

     

    I’m on iPhone 6..Need to click the 3 wee Dots then the Curly thing..

     

     

    I’m sure there was a Quicker way (Before I went for a Swim with my Last 3 iPhones..) ha Ha

     

     

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  10. Serious Question Guys….I would Really like someone to Show me how anyone could Rule That EBTS..Gave Rankers a Sporting Advantage…Aint a wind up…Just show Me.Open minded on This.

     

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  11. When i’m on ma iphone I just click the time stamp and then the curly wurly to refresh por cierto

  12. Of course.

     

     

    When reading WWW’s post. It should be remembered that at the same time these employee scams were on the go at the Asbestos Arena. The greatest businessman we’ve ever seen Sir David, was running up a £900 million overdraft at BOS.

     

     

    Could be worse. We could be paying for their bail out.

     

     

     

    Sshhh Pedro. Don’t upset the huns.

  13. Herbo…You seem Vocal on this..So i will ask you…How could anyone Rule that EBTS gave the Huns Sporting Advantage?…

  14. 16 roads - Celtic über alles... on

    weet weet weet(gbwo)

     

     

    00:06 on 15 April, 2015

     

     

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    Reads like the greatest scam of the century.

     

     

    HH.

  15. Bgx

     

     

    There’s not a rule stating if a player is through on goal you’re not allowed to shoot him dead with an automatic firearm.

     

     

    It’s a bit obvious. Naw?

  16. It’s great to see ghuys like Auldheid pursue the EBT scandal and resolution 12.

     

     

    Yet I wish we would pursue the SFA for IMO wrongly allowing the transfer of Rangers FC’s membership to Newco Rangers.

     

     

    For me this is the only thing that gives any “legitimacy” to the continuity myth.

     

     

    It should have been robustly challenged at the time. Even now it may not be too late.

  17. Whats in The Stars…

     

    The Implication is That The Huns, Through EBTS..gained Sporting Advantage.how can that be Proved..Just asking..

  18. Bgx

     

     

    You’re at the Madame :-)

     

     

    What would be the point of undeclared FOOTBALLERS wages if there is no sporting advantage?

     

     

    Sorry for the capitals, was just stressing the word.

  19. Herbo…What They Paid is Between Them and Thems…PROVE..

     

    Sporting Advantage..Im Saying it Cant Be Proved…

  20. 16 roads - Celtic über alles... on

    Perhaps the only thing that annoys me about them, wasn’t the fact that they didn’t care about their skulduggery – the cnuts actually revelled in it.

     

     

    Same as their counterparts in Ireland – Linfield.

     

     

    The two most successful football clubs in the world eh? How? Why?

     

     

    Some coincidence that, is it not?

     

     

    Degenerate cheating monkeys.

     

     

    HH.

  21. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    BGX

     

     

    There is a clear sporting advantage. They signed players whom they could not otherwise afford. Players who improved their team more than otherwise affordable players would have.

  22. What is the Stars on

    BGX

     

     

    I actually thought you were being facetious and had unintentionally omitted the words DID NOT when you wrote

     

    .I would Really like someone to Show me how anyone could Rule That EBTS..Gave Rankers a Sporting Advantage…

  23. Bgx

     

     

    Fair enough. You probably have a point there. I’m no legalese to debate that.

     

     

    The evidence though, as you and I know, is what it is. Ye cannot deny that big chap.