Over the weekend, Erik Sviatchenko spoke about Scott Brown as Celtic’s “fine minister” as the captain had authority to fine players who broke discipline. In Erik’s instance, it was lateness. Scott Brown has been Celtic’s first line of discipline since Neil Lennon’s first period in charge. Young players were led by example, as more experienced players were given clear guidance of what was expected from them as a Celtic player.
Reprimanding a player for hitching a ride on a buggy intended for an injured colleague, as I once witnessed, requires oceans of respect from players and coaches alike. This takes pressure off the manager, who can ration his use of discipline for more select matters, when its rarity has more effect.
Controlling a squad of several dozen well-paid athletes is a challenge when results are not going your way and there are campaigns against the manager. Players cultivate all the wrong feelings when reading social media and pester their agents. At these times, the manager’s voice can lose effect. Scott Brown could not prevent our collapse this season but you do not need to think too hard to figure how heavily Neil Lennon and John Kennedy have relied on him. Not that you will hear any of this from Scott. I would have him in my corner before anyone else in football.
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Agree. Legend
HH
So would I Paul.
Which makes it all the more striking that we’ve allowed him to join someone else’s corner.
Care to say why you think this might be?
HH jg
It’s right and proper that we applaud our exceptional players as they part, on good terms, for pastures new.
However, given how poor we have been this season, I would expect to be applauding inbound players at this time.
We are currently 20 points behind. We are becoming weaker by the day.
Where the hell is the urgency.
No doubt we’ll be told how uniquely difficult it is for Celtic to recruit the right mgt team.
Chelsea, Aberdeen, Livi (to name but 3) have all made managerial changes this season, all much quicker than we have.
Why are we different?
He’ll be missed
JAMESGANG .
Which makes it all the more striking that we’ve allowed him to join someone else’s corner.
Care to say why you think this might be?
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I think Paul may have answered the question in his leader….
“Neil Lennon and not John Kennedy have relied on him”
Does the removal of Scott Brown mean we already have our manager in place , currently acting in a temporary capacity.
please tell us it ain’t so.
The Onlooker
Uncle Jimmy
Some time ago Paul said that we wouldn’t be looking at anyone not currently in a job so that might explain our tardiness.
UNCLE JIMMY – we all keep asking the same questions. PL is notorious for dragging his feet, trying to squeeze value on every deal. But with a 30 million CL place at stake this summer and a similar jackpot on the line for the champions next season this really is the time to speculate big time.
Go back to usual austerity model in 2022 if it fails but at least give it our best shot, because a 30 > 60 million jump in newco’s revenue without a similar rise in ours will leave us chasing shadows on and off the park.
We know they will gamble. Soft loans will be ramped up big time, their is no FFP to worry about.
Even before Peter Lawwell?
I am thinking Paul meant to write “and now John Kennedy” rather than “and not John KennedY”, no?
JK has played Brown rather than Sorro so not sure it makes sense otherwise.
“Neil Lennon and not John Kennedy have relied on him”
Could be wrong, but I took that as a typo – so should have read:
“Neil Lennon and NOW John Kennedy have relied on him”
Let’s hope it was a typo 🙏
BGFC
So did I and was just about to post same ! Glad I read yours first:-)
From last night:
“LETS ALL DO THE HUDDLE on 28TH MARCH 2021 10:18 PM
So is Steve Clarke crossed off our list.
—yes
he plays too many scottish players in his teams!”
:-)))))
Nice one, Huddle .
Steve Clarke would offer a high level of continuity, inasmuch as, for long periods last night it felt like I was watching Celtic 2020-21!
HH jg
I haven’t been on much the last few days, was there much noise on here re. Griff going to Aberdeen too? Just rumours because he is SB’s mate? Or is PL willing to sell players without a mngr or DoF in place?
If he goes, along with OE, Elyounoussi and probably Ajeti . . . well, it just gets even more interesting.
Apologies, typo, should be “and John Kennedy”, now corrected.
Honestly!
JAMESGANG – at least Scotland didn’t lose a goal from a corner or free kick, as opposed to Norway where Ajer cost them two goals for Celtic-like defending :)
Deniabhoy
Did he really?
Sorry to hear that.
Old Norse saying I guess, ‘you can the Viking out of Glasgow, but you can’t take Glasgow out of the Viking….’
HH jg
Deniabhoy
It must be down to poor Norwegian coaching
This is great – a half a page of fitba chat!!!
Quick…shut the comments box down for the rest of the day before someone notices and spoils it.
Re: Scotland last night – bit of a game of two halves I thought. Israel far the better team in the first half, but Scotland grew into the game quite well. A 1-1 away to Israel isn’t a disaster. Hopefully we can take care of the Islanders on Wednesday, and Denmark and Austria can damage each other when the play their double-header.
HH
BGFC
Paul 67,
Do you have any idea where we are heading re our slow motion managerial appointment ?
Losing our manager could not have been a shock, we could all see it coming. So, you would think it prudent that we had a short list drawn up.
If we intended appointing a manager without a club, surely it would be done by now. Then again we are Celtic, We dither.
If Eddie Howe was in Glasgow at the weekend surely someone would have a photograph. ( Just about everyone has a camera phone nowadays )
Who is making decisions about letting players go out on loan. Who is making decisions about letting promising youngsters leave. Are the people making these decisions even going to be at the club soon ?
Our support is demoralised, we have let the genie out the bottle in such a hopeless self inflicted way and we are still going backwards. We will continue to go backwards until our managerial future is established.
But still we dither.
I really don’t think the club feels our pain.
Maybe I’m cynical, but it seems the only urgency will be when season ticket renewals go out.
HH to all.
Any news on the sevco covid breakers or are the SFA waiting on slippy’s decision
Greenpinata
Everyone’s supposed to stay at home – that’s the reason for no photos 🤨
One serious concern I have about the incoming season is the loss of any remaining leaders/ character in the squad. I thought we were lacking in it already but with Broony away we not only need more players initials, we need to bring in guys with the right mentality who will command immediate respect. That is a rare quality.
I like Cal Mac and James f. They are now our Mr Celtics. But they don’t strike me as born leaders. Who else do we have at present who might be?
A couple of older heads would be a useful addition to the squad.
Interesting times ahead.
I hope Scott Brown does well at Aberdeen. I hope Aberdeen strengthen. Would love to see them and/ hibs emerge as strong sides to challenge at the top and in the cups. That would be healthy. Us 1st, Dibs and hibs 2nd and 3rd and also rsns after that in any order would seem about right to me.
Most managerial set ups are teams of 3,maybe Scott thinking if he stays,he might not be in the 3 of a new regime, but straight in as a No2 at Aberdeen, will give him more hands on and greater experience quicker.
So what happened to Brown’s leadership and discipline skills this season?
GENE on 29TH MARCH 2021 1:14 PM
Greenpinata
Everyone’s supposed to stay at home – that’s the reason for no photos 🤨
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In the sense that Howe stayed at home, yes that is the reason.
DENIABHOY (from previous thread)
How can you be sure those on the “waiting list” are not as pissed off as most of us on here and won’t purchase?
And it could be another VST.
ROBERTRESSEL – Good point and the truth is, there are currently no big personalities/captain type left in the team. Some say Ajer but he’s likely to be away too. The rest are too quiet.
If we had got Marshall or Forster in as a keeper then they both could have taken on the role.
Guys,
Celtic have been provisionally contacting people on the waiting list. I know some who are not taking up the offer.
This waiting list might only exist on paper.
HH.
Can’t figure what the article’s really saying or not saying Paul…
That Broony was as much of a leader as Neil (SBs pavement pished incident aside) ever could be ?
Or, that wur season was totally simply undone by various nefarious campaigns against the manager?
Or that Broony felt the brunt of the collapse bad and had to move on, given what/who is about to manifest?
I wish Broony nothing but fulfilment, joy and certainly some partial successes now he’s joined the competition.
Chapeau P67 for another enigmatic article; like a whiff of Anais Anais on a disco dance-floor it catches the young man’s attention, but doesn’t readily identify the corpus it adorns.
When can we expect some white smoke totally separate from the smoke and mirrors ?
PhilBhoy – I agree but I was speculating on DD’s mindset not my own. If he wanted to appoint Keane I think he would, regardless of the current social media reaction. I doubt he believes that 10,000 season ticketholders would walk away just because Keane gets the job. He is probably arrogant enough to think it would add to the waiting list.
As I said, only my opinion. I just don’t see DD being swayed by a few blog posts. There are enough ex-pros and ex-managers willing to do the Keane PR cheerleading to ensure the media columns are dominated by positive opinion pieces.
UNCLE JIMMY on 29TH MARCH 2021 12:19 PM
Why are we different?
It’s far easier to find the right man if you are a top 4 epl team who are still in the cl
It’s also far easier to appoint someone if your winning candidates are, with no disrespect to either man, someone’s who’s experience amounts to managing Atlanta United’s reserves and someone who’s spent several years in prison.
Gene at 12:32
“Some time ago Paul said that we wouldn’t be looking at anyone not currently in a job so that might explain our tardiness”
Yes, it think I remember this being suggested. I’m not sure I understand the logic?
Do we not want to appoint a free agent?
Are we certain there are none out there of the calibre we require?
Have we identified ‘the man’ and he’s currently employed elsewhere? I’m not sure I’d buy that.
It’s an odd statement. We don’t know who we want but he has to be working currently.
We seem to have a uniquely cumbersome approach this time around.
“…Scott Brown could not prevent our collapse this season but you do not need to think too hard to figure how heavily Neil Lennon and John Kennedy have relied on him. Not that you will hear any of this from Scott. I would have him in my corner before anyone else in football…”
100% agree
In my eyes Scott Brown is a legend, his medal haul alone proves this.I Personally hope to see him back one day cos he loves skelping those Huns…
Celtic40me @1:43
I think that’s the collection of arguments I disagree with.
We make excuses as to how ‘bigger teams’ have more clout, money and pulling power.
We make excuses that ‘smaller teams’ have simpler demands and are operating in a less demanding gene pool.
Poor Celtic are somewhere in the middle with unique challenges which makes player or mgt recruitment so difficult.
We are 20 points behind in the league. How was another scottish team, without our resources, able to recruit a mgt team to deliver that?
Paul often talks about how players respond when presented with ready made excuses. Yet, we constantly make excuses for our poor player and managerial recruitment.
Broonie is irreplaceable as captain, a real challenge for the new guy.