Helsingborgs indifferent domestic form

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Helsingborgs IF are sixth after 17 games in the Swedish Allsvenskan, seven points off Elfsborg and Malmo, who ended Scotland’s interest in the Champions League last season.  Our opponents clearly play it tight on the road, they have lost only eight goals away from home, considerably fewer than anyone else in the league (Malmo: 19), although their home goals for and against are not unusually low (scored 14 to Malmo’s 16 at home, conceded nine to Malmo’s one).

Helsingborgs have lost only three league games, fewer than anyone else.  Four draws from nine home games appears to have cost them most ground in the title race.

Celtic can expect to face a tight defence who are well versed at shutting teams out in the second leg in Glasgow where they will need the creative talents of Kris Commons with perhaps Paddy McCourt p[laying a role.  A big European-night atmosphere at Celtic Park will be invaluable.

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  1. Thinking the older ones that have followed Celtic through thick n thin want to preserve some of the past and be able to wallow in the memories of meeting friend outside the old school.time moves on but its part of our heritage.hh

  2. Cheers G – typical of CQNERS – always happy to help out others. Old man was in the pub before Inter game – better check your slate – he kept saying you and VP had put drinks behind the bar for him.

  3. Wonder what the bid was?

     

     

    Ipswich Town have bid for Celtic’s Kelvin Wilson turned down

     

     

    By Dave Gooderham

     

     

    Friday, August 10, 2012

     

    4:09 PM

     

     

    Kelvin Wilson was one of the players Paul Jewell had a bid for rejected last weekend.

     

     

    The Celtic centre-back was targeted by Ipswich last week but their initial bid was rejected by the Scottish Premier League champions.

     

     

    The 26-year-old was left out of Celtic’s Champions League qualifier on Wednesday night at HJK Helsinki with his old club Nottingham Forest also said to be interested.

     

     

    We understand Town are considering a second bid for Wilson, but that Jewell is unwilling to go much higher than his initial offer.

     

     

    Wilson made 20 starts for Celtic during the 2011/12 season after signing for Nottingham Forest, where he played alongside Ipswich new boy Luke Chambers.

     

     

    Speaking on Wednesday night after the pre-season win at Colchester United, Jewell revealed: “I still want to bring in a few players.

     

     

    “It’s been frustrating because I know we need to strengthen. We’re a bit short of me being happy with the squad, but I’ve got to have patience and make sure those that do come in are the right ones.

     

     

    “We had a couple of bids rejected over the weekend and whether we go back in for them remains to be seen. We’re working exceptionally hard to improve the squad.”

     

     

    A fourth centre-back, alongside Chambers, Tommy Smith and Damien Delaney, remains a priority for the Blues boss.

  4. bournesouprecipe on 10 August, 2012 at 22:03 said:

     

    Before the Velodrome

     

     

     

    from that aspect, the school looks spookily like the frontage of the original main stand. good image.

     

     

    save the school. Just my opinion but if people could just dream a little.

     

     

    someone mentioned no outcry when we knocked down 3 sides of the stadium to build the new stadium, hindsight only, but so many of the features, brickwork and ever some turnstiles or barriers should have been saved to put in a futrue museum.

     

    i love celtic park, but honestly, the 88 mainstand is just a rubbish building front, would have been better to take the old fron down and rebuild it 100 feet forward.

     

     

    so much has changed for the better in the whole area, but many many quirky, unique even. bits are lost forever.

     

     

    i am all for progress, but not for shabby merely functional rectangles.

     

     

    a building erected in 1905 for goodness sake, its been there for all the time the Hoops have been the hoops.

     

     

    it really could be a special addition to the celtic park expereience, it just needs some vision.

  5. Celtic First

     

     

    Loved being here as well. It’s been a haul to get the fingers and brain working again and there are a thousand unfinished tales of terror and warped dimensions of the mind that I must finish.

     

     

    I’ve got another three weeks of relative confinement before I’m allowed loose with a pint and again.

     

     

    My posts will be evidence enough when that day arrives. :-)

     

     

    Hail Hail and Thanks

     

     

    Estadio

  6. JimmyQuinnsBits on

    Estadio,

     

     

    I’ll echo CF’s sentiments… at the risk of embarassin ye, cos I know you’re a wee shy thing…

     

     

    Helluva good to read your nuggets again… ahem

  7. Bourne:

     

     

    A tour de force in stone- am I right in thinking that it is made from concrete? Sure I heard that somewhere. I know its a James Salmon creation. Always loved that building…sad to see its fate now.

  8. Ooooooh. Ritula Shah messes up the DJIA bit at the end of The World Tonight.

     

     

    Can’t be having that, Ritula, hen.

  9. Kelvinbhoy

     

    Best wishes to your old man.

     

    Tell your dad to buy as much drink as he wants and

     

    stick it on VPs slate.

     

    Good to hear he was back in the pub.

     

    Hope to see him soon.

  10. WDH

     

     

    I could get used to a bar like that. Its a bit like Sharkeys; not sure what bit, probably the shape of the urinal!

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    Estadio

  11. Saint Stivs

     

     

    Changing my mind with each counter post on the subject

     

     

    wonky

     

     

    Hope St, listed building – but nobody will buy and redevelope it, due to the

     

    cost, which tells us something about the amount involved for London Rd School

     

     

    Very Difficult Decisions CSC

  12. I’ve been re-reading Cider With Rosie by Laurie Lee.

     

     

    What magic in his descriptions of a recent but vanished world. All the talk of the London Road Primary School has reminded me of it all.

     

     

    One of his best bits is recalling coming home from his first day at school in a bad mood, insisting he wasn’t for going back. When his sisters asked him why, Laurie explained that it was because he “never got the present”.

     

     

    His older sisters wanted to know what he was on about. So he explained that a member of staff had received him first thing that morning by saying: “You’re Laurie Lee, aren’t you? Just sit there for the present.” And she pointed to a stool. Laurie sat down and waited, and waited, and waited … but the present never arrived.

  13. Amazing how the many on this site can view an artistic impression of the new superstore/museum and immediately form an opinion that it is a tin shed.

     

     

    Get a life…looks just fine to me.

  14. C1st

     

     

    A great book and the bit you mention I’ve used with my own class in the last few years.

  15. Jeromek67 on 10 August, 2012 at 22:50 said:

     

    Amazing how the many on this site can view an artistic impression of the new superstore/museum and immediately form an opinion that it is a tin shed.

     

     

    Get a life…looks just fine to me.

     

     

    ——————–

     

     

    see when my worklife is delivering building such as this for a living, then i think i can express an opinion that i havnt seen a building yet that looks as good as its “artists impression”.

     

     

    its a functional cladded shed.

     

     

    nothing iconic or future about it.

     

     

    save the school.

  16. HT

     

     

    Great stuff.

     

     

    Maybe the weans would also like the anecdote of his mother’s that Laurie retells of the toffee-maker going into the church to pray for a man, before it’s too late, with the village blacksmith mending the clock and overhearing.

     

     

    He has been besotted with her for years, but too shy to say anything … until now, when, pretending to be God, he answers from the clock tower and asks her if a blacksmith will do.

     

     

    The utterly magnificent Jake Thackray re-retold this story in a brilliant song.

     

     

    It’s here if you don’t know it (with one of those mental YouTube photo agglomerations, but still).

     

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDkQQRNcT3c

  17. arcade fire sprawl1

     

     

    To keep the school or not? The debate reminded me of this particularly melancholy song from arcade fire.

  18. argument in the pub tonight with a few huns ensued concerning Charles Green’s dictionary definition of the word “bigotry”.

     

    It didnt end there. Having dared suggest that one of the fall outs from this Rangers saga was that the Huns would have to eventually bring out their own dictionary just so that the rest of the world might be able to understand their raison d’etre didnt go down to well.

     

    words or phrases up for debate:

     

    Bigotry;

     

    Sectarianism;

     

    Punishment;

     

    Consequence;

     

    Ineligible;

     

    Banned;

     

    Corporate responsibility;

     

    Company;

     

    Club;

     

    Hun;

     

     

    Having failed to reach agreement on any of the above I cant help but think the Hun believes wholeheartedly in their own devised definitions. The rest of the world are wrong.

  19. Hugh Bonkle fae Dallas on

    Guys absolutely livid tonight. I’m on holiday in Tenerife and had to sit through a karaoke where the rep allowed a holidaymaker to sing the rankers version of penny arcade complete with old rankers badge on screen. I was booing at the top of my voice but was a voice in the wilderness. What would you do next?

     

     

    Shug

  20. G64

     

     

    Great book as well. However, if you want a fantastic read on the Spanish Civil War, unbiased and recently updated using new evidence from Russian archives, i’d suggest The Battle for Spain by Anthony Beever.

  21. JimmyQuinnsBits on

    CF,

     

     

    too few books tell the tale of the ordinary person through history…. many attempt it, but its normally from an outsiders viewpoint (e.g. Dickens).

     

     

    Its the story of the wee things that gets lost… what it was like for a family living in one room in a tenement; how did they cook, eat, wash, keep the cold at bay; what did this do to a person mentally; the fear of losing a days work through sickness, and no dole.

     

     

    Even in my life, things have changed dramatically, and so many stories lost. My granny was what was quaintly called “in service”; i.e. a maid in the big hoose, whilst my granda was in the pits. This grieved him greatly, like a boot on his face.

     

     

    I tell my kids about gettin the belt in school, and they look at me like I’m smokin a camel turd right there in the kitchen.

     

     

    Which is nonsense of course, you’ve got to smoke them outside.

  22. Bellamy on twitter:

     

     

    “Yes, it’s true I ve signed for Cardiff, but I wouldnt be surprised if I ended up at Celtic in the next transfer window”

  23. NatKnow - "We welcome the paper-chase..." on

    Tearing down old buildings is usually controversial. People can have an emotional attachment. However, just because a building is old, that does not mean it is worth preserving. SNH will have a say in whether Celtic application to demolish the school is acceptable. The question that will be asked is whether this is a unique example of a particular style or architecture that needs to be preserved or not. I think there are probably other examples of a school building from the turn of the last century but I may be wrong.

     

     

    From a planning point of view there are a lot of considerations that need to be balanced. With Celtic Park on one side of the road and the new Velodrome on the other, the argument that a modern building would be somehow out of place it lost. I am also sure that there has been much thought and consideration as to whether the development can be done by retaining the school and providing the necessary payback the project requires. If not then there’s no point in developing at all. Any project Celtic undertakes in this area needs to be something that pays for itself and more. It’s not like we don’t need the income.

     

     

    On the question of whether the particular design presented so far is aesthetically pleasing or otherwise, well that is a discussion with no correct answer and possibly no end. Modern buildings can be spectacular or grim. Just like old buildings. And opinions on what mades a great modern building are many and varied.

     

     

    I have no particular emotional attachment to the school and therefore I am comfortable about the development. I would love to see something that makes a bold statement and something that is recognisable and symbolically aligned with the club. However I also recognise that statement architecture costs a lot of money. First and foremost, whatever is developed should provide a great experience for the fans and be an additional source of income. I’m looking forward to seeing how it turns out.

  24. Jimmy Quinn

     

     

    Totally agree. Small things mean immense amounts.

     

     

    On the camel thing, I’ll take your word for it.

  25. I can’t even begin to imagine what it

     

    must be like to have a discussion on semantics with an orc…ma heid hurts jist thinkin aboot it!

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