I see The Herald were forced to reconsider Martin William’s hasty article, posted first online last night but now amended, where they repeat an erroneous claim that in 2001 Celtic claimed the word ‘hun’ is sectarian. The current version of the article makes no such reference.
Much of what remains of the article is a random collection of quotes, appeals and one assertion by Williams that “Celtic warned fans they can no longer call Rangers fans ‘h***’ 14 years ago”, which appears to be based on a quote by then club employee John Cole’s etiquette requirement for a forum he administered.
This is a classic manipulative argument technique (and by classic I mean the ancient Greeks first identified it). Take a statement by someone, for example:
The word f*** is not allowed on CQN, because the administrator acknowledged that it “can cause offence”.
Ignore the fact that the same administrator would never dream of chastising someone for using the word away from the blog, as the word is not inherently offensive as it does not, for example, offend at a comedy show.
State that some people believe the word to be inherently offensive in itself, or worse.
Build momentum for your argument by reminding readers that CQN’ers have been warned they can no longer use it, without issuing any caveats to the context.
Then allow your tenuous references to dovetail into an argument.
It’s an absurd and driven technique for the hard of thinking. It is also patently transparent.
Celtic picked this matter up at the time of first publication and are considering their position in relation to various items published yesterday.
As a friend said last night, “What a sad little country”.
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Jude
There’s a answer to that coudnt print it on here though.:0)
I have something to say about this “Huns” saga.
The Huns themselves were singing the word at the Raith Rovers game a few weeks ago FFS!!!
Not the cup tie at ibrox – the league game on the Friday night at Starks Park.
Loud and clear…. We’re coming Down The Road.
“…and Carson he did say…
Go take our sons…. and tell the Huns….
That we are on the way…..”
It was on BT Sport and the song was ringing out for several minutes. I would suggest that this is pretty clear evidence that the huns are not offended by it, and it is certainly not sectarian.
It stuck in my mind, as it is the equivalent of Celtic fans singing songs about the IRA, and there should be a distinction between songs like these, and the racist/anti catholic chants that could be heard at other times.
I wonder if the beeb even then had suspicions about Savile? Dancers all safely secured behind bars.
Further to my post above…. do the RST actually attend Srvco matches??
Estoril,
This isn’t just a football site.
Fred
Efe is my favourite Celtic player. I love the big man.
I also love an even bigger man Craigy Bhoy. My POTY.
As King himself said, being on the LSE costs, and you have to gain the approval of a suit in London before changes are approved. For example, the recent board appointments and resignations had to be verified with the LSE before they could be announced on it.
Delisting means that is not an issue. But it also makes the company slightly less accountable, given it essentially answers to no one outwith its private shareholders.
It remains to be seen how this curious little period in Rangers’ regime change transpires.
Posted by Ibrox Noise at 18:00
So according to this halfwit,writing this article,de-listing,would make the board “Slightly less accountable”.!!!!!!!!!!!
I like the”Curious little period”bit as well.
A guy answering them tells them their shares would be as good as worthless.
Oh dear.There should be a law to stop people taking the gullibles to the cleaners.
Glad there isnt.
What is the stars
Ha ha ha! Off to bed to dream of copious amounts of porter and stout
Gaun yirsel Rod
Who’d have thought that a mere 44 years later he’d be presenting the first leg of the treble to Broony!
Franny
I remember in the 70s that it was Rod the Prod fae the deluded huns. Till he turned up at Paradise in the Hoops. Hunmonkeys are deid!
captain beefheart
23:21 on 25 March, 2015
Estoril,
This isn’t just a football site.
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Whatever, hope you’re enjoying the attention, I’m sure it is satisfying your needs.
PS don’t you dare answer my initial question, that just wouldn’t be practical :)
tallybhoy
21:20 on 25 March, 2015
Not sure if that was aimed at my earlier post, but if you actually read the post, I was just mentioning important parts of the season, Callum MacGregor done well at the start and John Guidetti had a purple patch when we weren’t playing so well, not dismissing all of our Super Swede’s assists, if you read my post I wouldn’t have any complaints about Jason Denayer being young player but surely it is a bit easier playing in a back 4 with at most 1 attacker to defend against ? Especially with big Virgil holding his hand at times
DD
Oh they hate our Rodney wae a passion.HH.
Whats in the Stars,
Re polyester, in my time i’ve seen plenty of classy gear in the country.
I’ve also seen plenty of shell suits in d capital…amo sorry
Hello again all you young rebels.
Well it’s been awhile getting wifi but were on now, our cruise is going great
plenty of tims aboard and even a little Indonesian crew member was pointing
to my Celtic badge and saying ” Celtic good No 1 ” don’t know what his story
is yet because my Glesga Swahili didn’t work on him.
His two mates told me they were Man u. fans but they would i like to give
them my Celtic tops before i go off, so i told them , sing me the full Celtic
song before i go off and it’s a deal, left them all in a huddle so wait and see.
Had a great afternoon in Sydney on Tues. with local tims the princess was
not amused she said,when we were in Cheers bar,
” Mick i thought you said we would do some sightseeing today ”
i said honey pie look up on those walls there’s Celtic tops and pics so what
sight can beat that.
Aw see you yir hopeless.
Presently steamin into Brisbane, happy face just said to me,
“naw your steamin in tae Brisbane yiv never been oot that bar fae yae
came aboard the bliddy boat”
Oh the woe.
So any of you local bhoys out this afternoon i will be in Brisbane Celtic
club today once i shake off my shadow if you fancy a beer and bit
of craic .
H.H Mick
Delaneys Dunky,
Listen to any MSM broadcast…never a good word to say about Efe.
Any mistake is highlighted, anything good is totally ignored.
Efe will prove them all wrong.
Hail Hail.
Sorry meant to say Damo
Franny
He wore a Rangers shirt early 70s for a photo wi huns of the time. He became Rod the Prod. Was a very short lived nickname. :))
Estoril,
Interestingly, you didn’t mention that Clarkson, Irish political parties, Mogwai and Donegal have also been mentioned on the football blog.
Have a calm night wherever you are.
Now there singing Douglas Park’s song! Clowns to the left of me ……..
Clogher
Damo and Ivor ??
Fred
Efe Ambrose FIFA Balon d’or.
Bhoys
Gerry Rafferty with Steelers Wheel there – fantastic. This is outstanding, fair enjoying maself reliving my youth!
HH
captain beefheart
23:40 on 25 March, 2015
Estoril,
Interestingly, you didn’t mention that Clarkson, Irish political parties, Mogwai and Donegal have also been mentioned on the football blog.
Have a calm night wherever you are.
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Didn’t interest me so wasn’t aware as scrolling.
You have a good one and stay true to yourself !
Hail! Hail!
Delaneys Dunky,
Now yer talkin :O).
Hail Hail.
EFE for pity , just to shut media up
Poty. !!
clogher celt
In Dublin is it real Polyester,or that man made rubbish?
Friesdorfer
Magic. I am placing gorgeous girlfriends to songs now. :)
Friesdorfer
The man was a legend.HH.
DD
Yep, know whit ye mean there..!
HH
DD
Pmsl here.HH.
frannyb67,
Yip, and a Tim! Thanks for highlighting the prog.
HH
Suzi
Now you are getting to my generation!
Friesdorfer
Not a prob mhate.HH
Boy on Twitter steviel1967 posting this to Stewart Regan.
@StewartMRegan any comments on sectarian singing at your stadium tonight? Sure this one falls under your remit!!! #selectivesfa
Franny
Great shout for TOTP. Was of to scratcher an hour ago.