I see The Herald were forced to reconsider Martin William’s hasty article, posted first online last night but now amended, where they repeat an erroneous claim that in 2001 Celtic claimed the word ‘hun’ is sectarian. The current version of the article makes no such reference.
Much of what remains of the article is a random collection of quotes, appeals and one assertion by Williams that “Celtic warned fans they can no longer call Rangers fans ‘h***’ 14 years ago”, which appears to be based on a quote by then club employee John Cole’s etiquette requirement for a forum he administered.
This is a classic manipulative argument technique (and by classic I mean the ancient Greeks first identified it). Take a statement by someone, for example:
The word f*** is not allowed on CQN, because the administrator acknowledged that it “can cause offence”.
Ignore the fact that the same administrator would never dream of chastising someone for using the word away from the blog, as the word is not inherently offensive as it does not, for example, offend at a comedy show.
State that some people believe the word to be inherently offensive in itself, or worse.
Build momentum for your argument by reminding readers that CQN’ers have been warned they can no longer use it, without issuing any caveats to the context.
Then allow your tenuous references to dovetail into an argument.
It’s an absurd and driven technique for the hard of thinking. It is also patently transparent.
Celtic picked this matter up at the time of first publication and are considering their position in relation to various items published yesterday.
As a friend said last night, “What a sad little country”.
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jamesgang
Zombie Apocalypse Now
“I love the smell of polyester in the morning!”
;-))
corkcelt
21:50 on
25 March, 2015
Turkeybhoy, I’m not sure what I have done to merit legendary status but I was lucky enough to meet Tom Barry a few times.
Thats enough.
If one the choice of July weather, would it be of bucketing rain, or sweat running down the sheughs variety? Just asking.
jamesgang
21:52 on
25 March, 2015
turkeybhoy
Like what?
A Stickie?!?’
;-)
HH JamesGang
??????????????.
Turkey bhoy
With a name like Michael o’ Neil you would imagine he is. …but why only one of L at the end of his name. ….
voguepunter
@21:47 on 25 March, 2015
Has anyone heard from our ole pal Kilbowie Kelt recently,hope he is well.hh
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Both Kilbowie Kelt and Kojo seem to have disappeared. Maybe the two old codgers have taken each other out. :-)
What is the Stars
21:56 on
25 March, 2015
Turkey bhoy
With a name like Michael o’ Neil you would imagine he is. …but why only one of L at the end of his name. ….
Why not?
POTY: joe handsome. Worthy mentions, Scott Brown, Nir bitton & Craig Gordon
YPOTY: Jason Denayer. Worthy mention, Liam Henderson
thomthethim for oscar ok
That’s it I’m hiring a motor!
AvisCSC
See Scotland’s allegedly quality newspaper has started using asterisks.
Turkeybhoy
You said you could buy him a dodgy suit. Then said you were ‘like that…’
So I took the cyber Liberty of sticking you in the aforementioned suit and insinuated you might be a hun.
Sorreeee!
;-)
HH JamesGang
What is the Stars
21:56 on
25 March, 2015
Turkey bhoy
With a name like Michael o’ Neil you would imagine he is. …but why only one of L at the end of his name. …
H,mmm.Does that matter as much now?.Micheal is not a first pick for Huns in Ulster.
Thought you would know.
turkeybhoy
21:49 on 25 March, 2015
Maybe so, although it would be unusual for scotland/ sfa to cut any celtic player some slack.
Still think wgs considered the crowds reaction in his decision.
Nobody loves playing for Scotland more than Broony.
jamesgang,
No,no offence mate.I did not understand it,thats all.Anyway,he very ungraciously declined my offer.It was”nt real Polyester,it was artificial.Half the price.
thomthethim for oscar ok
20:23 on 25 March, 2015,
Believe me, I cannot wait.
I can’t believe my dulcet tones are not readily understood.
Once heard our accent described as capable of stripping paint of a door.
See you at Easter.
Árd Macha.
southside,
Glad he was not playing anyway,a wee break for him is more needed.
quonno
22:00 on 25 March, 2015
Would that be The *un
Turkeybhoy
He’s worth at least polyester.
Proper polyester.
:-)
HH JamesGang
quonno
22:00 on
25 March, 2015
See Scotland’s allegedly quality newspaper has started using asterisks.
Bunch of A******s.What,like that?.
F*****g joke.
WITS
I know many O’Neil families. All good Tims.
Michael O Neil is a Tim (but managing the occupied 6 means it’s in name only)
Went to St Louis Bmena.
POty Scotty/Craig
ypty Jason
I hope Broony quits Scotland after this campaign
jamesgang,
Maybe,but you know him better than me.I am not a Polyester man myself.
Probably not had one on for,well,at least a couple of months !!!!!!!.
gearoid1998
22:10 on
25 March, 2015
Michael O Neil is a Tim (but managing the occupied 6 means it’s in name only)
Went to St Louis Bmena.
POty Scotty/Craig
ypty Jason
Cheers mate.That surely does not go down well with the more rabid among them.
Good.
!!Bada Bing!!
22:12 on
25 March, 2015
I hope Broony quits Scotland after this campaign
How they get on will decide,I think.If they get to the finals,I would think he would be there.Getting to that time though.
Gearoid
I cannot split Broony and Big Craig for domestic performances. I think Craig in Europe wins POTY for me. Inter home I forgive him. :)
LuxCelt
Somebody is doing an amazing job for us away in the background regarding keepers.
For what seems like forever to me, the ones that have become our established keeper have been excellent, yet many of the ones that did ‘keep’ the gig….or even get a shot at it, have gone on to be very good keepers at other clubs.
Oiche mhaith.
Árd Macha
hamiltontim
21:58 on 25 March, 2015
thomthethim for oscar ok
That’s it I’m hiring a motor!
AvisCSC
*******
You would be very welcome.
HT
No worries.. if you need any info let me know. Or TCR and the other derry bhoys could help if im not on here. Time difference makes it tough sometimes.
TR
Oor ex Michael McGovern was excellent tonight and in the Accies games against us this season. Cracking Goalie.
turkeybhoy
22:17 on 25 March, 2015
!!Bada Bing!!
22:12 on
25 March, 2015
I hope Broony quits Scotland after this campaign
How they get on will decide,I think.If they get to the finals,I would think he would be there.Getting to that time though.
Meant to add that if Scotland qualified, he would play then possibly retire.
HT
Once you are in wae the SAGA tour crew you will be hooked. Their wisdom and life experiences will be a great education. You and Minx will have a ball. ;)
I don’t see Broony as the retiring from international football type.
And I like him all the more for that enthusiasm.
Good Evening my fellow Celtic Supporters.. m struggling to put down in words what I feel and how
https://twitter.com/BarryMcGonigle/status/580813010685599744
Good night all
I didn’t see the game tonight, did Jamesie get a run?