I see The Herald were forced to reconsider Martin William’s hasty article, posted first online last night but now amended, where they repeat an erroneous claim that in 2001 Celtic claimed the word ‘hun’ is sectarian. The current version of the article makes no such reference.
Much of what remains of the article is a random collection of quotes, appeals and one assertion by Williams that “Celtic warned fans they can no longer call Rangers fans ‘h***’ 14 years ago”, which appears to be based on a quote by then club employee John Cole’s etiquette requirement for a forum he administered.
This is a classic manipulative argument technique (and by classic I mean the ancient Greeks first identified it). Take a statement by someone, for example:
The word f*** is not allowed on CQN, because the administrator acknowledged that it “can cause offence”.
Ignore the fact that the same administrator would never dream of chastising someone for using the word away from the blog, as the word is not inherently offensive as it does not, for example, offend at a comedy show.
State that some people believe the word to be inherently offensive in itself, or worse.
Build momentum for your argument by reminding readers that CQN’ers have been warned they can no longer use it, without issuing any caveats to the context.
Then allow your tenuous references to dovetail into an argument.
It’s an absurd and driven technique for the hard of thinking. It is also patently transparent.
Celtic picked this matter up at the time of first publication and are considering their position in relation to various items published yesterday.
As a friend said last night, “What a sad little country”.
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long haired yins man
20:37 on
25 March, 2015
Natknow, just tried on my IPad and it works, must then only be an issue on the IPod…will keep trying anyway…thanks for the tips…HH!
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No worries dude!
I’d try removing it from the iPod and re-sync with the PC/Mac.
Hail hail!
Fletcher scored one goal for scotland in five year? WOOFT.
….pfayr supports weeoscar
20:36 on 25 March, 2015
The only way to guarantee your not over is not to have a drop.
Delahunt can’t bin anyone now for saying Sevco, karma, wonderfull thing.
long haired yins man-
Mogwai – Scotland’s Shame: https://youtu.be/D8KFMoVG1Y4
Apart from being very base people, why are they singing the Saville `song` at a Scotland game???
JJ
Gordon off? Good.
Tanner pointing out that the Irish goalie had a clean sheet at CP this season………..
JJ
It’s just what they do, why? Haven’t a clue, could the celtic goaly was at that end, other than that! I haven’t a clue.
What baffles me is how many posters appear to be watching or listening to tonight’s hatefest.
Junglre Jim
They are singing it to offend………cos that’s what huns do in foreign cities.
Ard Macha.
It’s possible fixtures won’t be announced for the split until 23rd April with first fixtures being 25 th April.
The reason being is that Celtic play Dundee on 22nd April which is the first midweek date Celtic have free.
Usually fixtures for split would be announced round about cup semi final time 18th April. However it will all depend if Dundee’s game against us makes a difference as to whether or not they finish in top 6 or not.
Ghents the DD limit is 22mg …it was previously 35mg …having one drink is keeping well within the limit
The morning after is the killer for most
As we are all part of the Union, how can Glasgow be a foreign city?
ArdMacharÁrd Macha
20:37 on
25 March, 2015
Anyone know when the split happens and when the draw for the last few games takes place.
Árd Macha
First game after the split is Saturday 25th April SPFL
I’m watching this Scotland game and, you know, it’s the ‘same old, same old’
ttt
I did wonder :)
Just back in from being oot, getting a kebab and a piza, met a hun, he lives in a valley many miles away, a decent bloke really, disny talk about the footy any more, still a hun tho.
As for the football PotY, I gave my reasons, others can’t seem to see them mind you :)
HH
quonno
20:51 on
25 March, 2015
What baffles me is how many posters appear to be watching or listening to tonight’s hatefest.
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Hatefest? A bit strong mate – John Torode is simply giving his honest opinion of that tarte tatin!
While we’re on a mogwai vibe-
Mogwai – George Square Thatcher Death Party: https://youtu.be/xbp3k3rYMs4
It is true that in todays Scotland, it is easy to be caught ‘drink driving’ which could in some circumstances sound a harsh description, given that 1 pint could put you ‘over’ in Gretna but not come close to that in Carlisle.
Árd Macha-last game is 23 or 24 May,SC Final 30th May
It is very easy to say: Simply do not drink at all if you are going to drive.
What about if you have a heavy cold? A toothache? A serious worry ?
What if you are listening to a piece of music you REALLY like? An idiot on Radio Shortbread?
There are many things which can adversely affect driving. Why is drink singled out?
JJ
PS I am not very interested in the Internationals. Haven`t been since I was about sixteen.
quonno
foreign……in so many ways.
Parkheadcumsalford
The problem with the research I referred to is that it did not include Ireland per se but only the areas within the UK. Certainly supports the theory that the Scotti made or make up the populations of both part of Ireland and Scotland. The Picts, who spoke a Welsh/Brythonic language 1500 years back certainly spoke Gaelic later, ie after the Scotti arrived. I watched a BBC2/4 programme a few weeks back which focused on the Archeological history of Ireland that suggested that the Gaels themselves were forced over time to the North and the North West of Ireland, long before the Normans arrived. The Scottish Nation of today is not Irish as such, but as I have argued before, would not exist without its’ own Scots/Irish history.
quonno
20:53 on 25 March, 2015
It’s a foreign city to those from the north of Ireland.
Steven Fletcher is the biggest proverbial bullet Celtic ever dodged, immensely unpopular on Wearside seven goals in two seasons, usually unfit, and on £40,000 a week.
livibhoy
Yes good shout. I’ll see if I can get the winner to come on here for a Q & A.
TonyD 67 and BCW67
Thank you both but I am still at a loss. Do they think Scotland supporters are mainly Tims?
TD67`s suggestion re Craig Gordon is a possible shout.
JJ
Oh aye, Paddy comin on, lol.
My hearing’s getting really bad.Are they singing “Stand up cause the Huns are deid?”
Paddy coming on!
bournesouprecipe
18:16 on
25 March, 2015
“After 30 minutes of listening to filthy tartan clad HUNS abuse Jimmy Johnstone from all over the ground i left.I have never felt any connection to national team since.”
Ditto CSC
Good God,how far back do you want to go?.We all know what they were like then,FFS Masons picked the team then.The Scotland support is as far removed from those days as you could possibly imagine.The Huns detest the Scotland fans.They detest the Scotland team.I have great Celtic mates,go all over Europe with Scotland.They never miss a trip,and have met loads of new mates through it.The Huns never mentioned unless its to laugh at them.
Don’t sell McCourt….. (loan him out notts county instead….)
bournesouprecipe
20:59 on
25 March, 2015
Steven Fletcher is the biggest proverbial bullet Celtic ever dodged, immensely unpopular on Wearside seven goals in two seasons, usually unfit, and on £40,000 a week.
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Plenty of bullets his their mark though! One or two “head shots”! :-)
bournesouprecipe
20:59 on 25 March, 2015Steven Fletcher is the biggest proverbial bullet Celtic ever dodged, immensely unpopular on Wearside seven goals in two seasons, usually unfit, and on £40,000 a week.
agree,he tweeted a picture of his new £350,000 Lambourgini this week,alongside his £150,000 Bentley,going down well with the Sunderland fans right now,as you can imagine.
BSR
I read on here I think that he was on mucho more than 40K, more like 60K, whatever, he’s no worth 5K imo.
HH
Is there anything worth seeing in Rossknowlagh?
Also best pubs in Letterkenny?
Magennis v Berra. International football at its finest.