I see The Herald were forced to reconsider Martin William’s hasty article, posted first online last night but now amended, where they repeat an erroneous claim that in 2001 Celtic claimed the word ‘hun’ is sectarian. The current version of the article makes no such reference.
Much of what remains of the article is a random collection of quotes, appeals and one assertion by Williams that “Celtic warned fans they can no longer call Rangers fans ‘h***’ 14 years ago”, which appears to be based on a quote by then club employee John Cole’s etiquette requirement for a forum he administered.
This is a classic manipulative argument technique (and by classic I mean the ancient Greeks first identified it). Take a statement by someone, for example:
The word f*** is not allowed on CQN, because the administrator acknowledged that it “can cause offence”.
Ignore the fact that the same administrator would never dream of chastising someone for using the word away from the blog, as the word is not inherently offensive as it does not, for example, offend at a comedy show.
State that some people believe the word to be inherently offensive in itself, or worse.
Build momentum for your argument by reminding readers that CQN’ers have been warned they can no longer use it, without issuing any caveats to the context.
Then allow your tenuous references to dovetail into an argument.
It’s an absurd and driven technique for the hard of thinking. It is also patently transparent.
Celtic picked this matter up at the time of first publication and are considering their position in relation to various items published yesterday.
As a friend said last night, “What a sad little country”.
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Paddy Mccourt – 31
Time running out for Paddy to show us what he’s capable of.
Celtic Mac
19:40 on
25 March, 2015
fan-a-tic
This game Scotland played against Israel when Jimmy Johnstone got dogs abuse, when exactly was it?
Never happened.Fan-a-Tic must be getting mixed up.
Nae ‘k’ obviously.
NatKnow
Usually johnny foreigner ;-)
Bada
A Bentley a Lambourghini and a weave, that’s obscene :-)
southside
21:11 on 25 March, 2015
Paddy Mccourt – 31
Time running out for Paddy to show us what he’s capable of.
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Harsh. We know he can drink at least 12 pints of the black stuff in one night.
Mogwai.
Stole a lot from other bands but massive tims. That quiet-loud dynamic has been done to death.
Turkeybhoy,
I don’t know a single Celtic supporter who goes to home Scottish games, let alone away ones. Having said that, I always hope Scotland win. I have even turned back to the game to see if it has improved any. It was dire earlier. Still looks poor.
Southside – Mogwai are class….thank you..
TET
Wouldn’t be surprised.
Not his fault of course, much more the imbalance of wealth between
football leagues due to TV etc.
Mogwai fans,
You may want to hear a Texan band called Explosions in the sky. Same style.
Guy from Mogwai used to post on CQN.
John Guidetti or Callum McGregor as possible YPOTY ahead of Jason Denayer?!
Ffs!
HH!!
Mogwai also soundtracked a documentary about Zidane. Well worth a watch. Get it from the superb distributor Artificial Eye.
South of Tunis, Scrolling back I see a post addressed to me asking if I knew anything about The Keening Woman’s Alliance. Unfortunately I know very little about them, my understanding was that they were a group of Feminists operating in Cork late fifties early sixties but I could be totally wrong there. I did hear mention of them many years ago but cannot really recall any details.
fan-a-tic
20:31 on
25 March, 2015
Celtic Mac
It was East Germany just checked my old diary.
Was a 15 year old then so memory fuzzy.
Still a stadium full of Huns in tartan though.
It was always like that then.Met a load of Irish girls on holiday from the Falls.Went over when N.Ireland were playing Scotland,the George Best game,the whole boat was full of flute bands,and other assorted Huns.
Ryecatcher is a member of Mogwai? The things you learn, eh?
Captain Beefheart
21:20 on
25 March, 2015
Mogwai also soundtracked a documentary about Zidane. Well worth a watch. Get it from the superb distributor Artificial Eye.
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Great film. Great soundtrack. Great, great player.
Hamiltontim
Rossnowleigh has very nice beach from what i can remember.. been years since i was there.
Letterkenny has plenty of pubs..most famous tim pub being the wolfetone bar. Always been busy town when i have been there.
Your not far from derry either.
Jungle Jim Hot Smoked
20:49 on
25 March, 2015
Apart from being very base people, why are they singing the Saville `song` at a Scotland game???
JJ
The Louden and other Hun pubs will be empty tonight.Thats why.
proudbhoy
Cheers mate, we’ll be in Derry for a day too.
My player of the year would be gordon after what he has come through and the high standard he has kept all season.
Proving many people wrong.
Young player-big jason
Moat inproved- nir bitton
POTY Stefan a johansen
YPOTY Jason Denayer
Kogwai wrote a song called Hugh Dallas.
McCourt getting booed …….no surprise
HT: Rossnowlagh has an Orange walk a day or two before the 12th of July. It is regularly featured on RTÉ news. Is that when you plan to go over:)
Maybe I missed something earlier, but why are Niron playing in blue jerseys?
Berra lol
That’s Berra!
!!Bada Bing!!,
Theres a wee painter and decorator over at the “Big Hoose”with a Bentley.
almore
Cheeky bassa :-) no but I did know about the OW. The only one in Donegal?
Nae Broony tonight? mmmm wonder why?
To save the embarrassment of both sets of fan booing him?
Is he on the bench? Couldn’t care less really?
Oglach 20:20 – Árd Macha at 20:23 makes my point entirely re 6-county fans being Irish.
The Duke of Wellington could whinge all he liked about not being Irish.
He may not have been by inclination but he was by birth.
Thanks for all the responses ghuys. Hoping to get over on the 2nd weekend in May with lovejoysalegend.
Árd Macha
where are the away fans being housed and who is in the Mt Florida end. GSTQ sounds very Glaswegian??
hamiltontim
Wolfe Tones pub.
Its on the main street,bottom of the hill on the left hand side.
Big pub with interesting “memorabilia”
In other news,
Gardener of the year – McCoist
Pie of the year – Boydachenko
Special recognition award – Mike Ashley
think McCourt booed by ‘own’ fans but could be wrong
Parkheadcumsalford,
Quite a few Tims go.Hoops and Kilts.I have seen all the pics.They love it
Not been to a Scotland game since the Joe Jordan winner,in WC Qs