I see The Herald were forced to reconsider Martin William’s hasty article, posted first online last night but now amended, where they repeat an erroneous claim that in 2001 Celtic claimed the word ‘hun’ is sectarian. The current version of the article makes no such reference.
Much of what remains of the article is a random collection of quotes, appeals and one assertion by Williams that “Celtic warned fans they can no longer call Rangers fans ‘h***’ 14 years ago”, which appears to be based on a quote by then club employee John Cole’s etiquette requirement for a forum he administered.
This is a classic manipulative argument technique (and by classic I mean the ancient Greeks first identified it). Take a statement by someone, for example:
The word f*** is not allowed on CQN, because the administrator acknowledged that it “can cause offence”.
Ignore the fact that the same administrator would never dream of chastising someone for using the word away from the blog, as the word is not inherently offensive as it does not, for example, offend at a comedy show.
State that some people believe the word to be inherently offensive in itself, or worse.
Build momentum for your argument by reminding readers that CQN’ers have been warned they can no longer use it, without issuing any caveats to the context.
Then allow your tenuous references to dovetail into an argument.
It’s an absurd and driven technique for the hard of thinking. It is also patently transparent.
Celtic picked this matter up at the time of first publication and are considering their position in relation to various items published yesterday.
As a friend said last night, “What a sad little country”.
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parkheadcumsalford
19:52 on 25 March, 2015
The North are playing in blue. That I can understand. Why are Scotland playing in white and pink?
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In memory of King Billy? :-)
Does anyone have Mogwai’s The Hawk is Howling off ITunes ?
hrvatski jim
Very funny!
H/T,
Your guess is as good as mine. Why could they both not play in their normal jerseys?
Britannia still ruling the waves I see. Obviously only when we can borrow French aircraft carriers.Don’t think we even rule the waves of Richmond Park boating pond.
Have not head of half the Scotland team – surely GMS, SA & LG are better than that tunch. Anya cant get a game for Watford and when last did Fletcher score for Sunderland? Who is Forsyth? Bruce?
EFE for POTY ……. or IZZY
Is it just me?
Could someone enlighten me as to why a radio sports broadcaster would get sacked for drink driving?
I am not condoning the behaviour.
However I don’t see why it’s relevant to his broadcasting. I can understand why eg a motoring broadcaster would get sacked but not a sports broadcaster.
bournesouprecipe
19:39 on 25 March, 2015What the papers say.
Could form part of John Guidetti’s defence….
http://abload.de/img/img_1970qtpbq.jpg
this…
Overseas bhoy
GMS LG and various others are doing just done sitting with their feet up.
Remember John Kennedy.
Doing just FINE
Parkheadcumsalford
To sell strips?
hendrix67
19:52 on 25 March, 2015 ..
That”doe me doo ? coming down the road” malarky, is cringeworthy ..
Still, I’m Scottish .. Some daft sheep shagger/ tuechter with a bee in his bonnet about the SW won’t deter me from supporting them.
The Irish huns singing the Saville song.
long haired yins man
19:55 on
25 March, 2015
Does anyone have Mogwai’s The Hawk is Howling off ITunes ?
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Nup. Got “ComeOn Die Young”, “Kicking a Dead Pig” and “Rock Action”
Why you ask?
Now I’m watching the Scotland game here, and the Northern Ireland fans are singing the Jimmy Savill song, what’s that all about?
TGCW
“Come in No1690 your time is up!”
careful with that tax, moonbeams
20:04 on 25 March, 2015
I’m like you mate, doesn’t stop me supporting them.
The last Scotland game I was at was at Celtic Park when Kevin Gallagher scored against Austria to send us to France ’98.
The last time I was at Hampden was in 2009 to see AC/DC.
Must be a lot of frustrated HUNS at Hampden tonight.
Anytime I listened to Clyde I always thought Delahunt was ok,must say I feel a bit sorry for him losing his job and the modern stigma which goes with the offence,give me Delahunt over Dalziel and BFDJ any day.
Natknow, seems that I cannot play track called Scotland’s Shame anymore….has this been sabotaged by der Hun…?
Some classics getting sung tonight, horrible shower
Hamiltontim
20:05 on
25 March, 2015
The Irish huns singing the Saville song.
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Correction they are Ulster born Scots and British. Not Irish
I heard the tartan army booing the National Anthem sung by the blue team’s support.Did they boo the Saville song?
oglach
What do you think about MCGinn etc playing for 6 counties
hendrix67
20:08
I remember that game well .. Wasn’t at it .. Was listening on 5 live .. When he scored .. The station couldn’t air for about 10 mins because of the noise
Hopefully we’ll qualify .. Looking forward to seeing the two new Celtic recruits in the squad.
Unionists in good voice at Hampden….
Oglach
Much as they do may not like it
Anyone born in the North of Ireland is Irish
I have a UK passport but the last thing I would describe myself as being is British.
Player of the Year – Scott Brown but could easily understand Craig Gordon or Stefani Johansen
Young player of the year – John Guidetti, think he qualifys as he is 22, it’s all about a full season but both him & Callum MacGregor have had important scoring spells this season, could easily understand Jason Denayer but when all said and done at least our John G has been pivotal when we weren’t at our best (& I hope he stays) alao, at least broke ranks and told the media that the “huns r deid” even if he was just quoting a factual song, for the record I think he could become a very super swede, he is only 22 ! Sign him up Pedro
oglach
I was trying to insult them as much as possible by calling them Irish :-)
blantyretim is praying for the Knox family
20:14 on
25 March, 2015
oglach
What do you think about MCGinn etc playing for 6 counties
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Doesn’t bother me in the slightest, why would it?
long haired yins man
20:11 on
25 March, 2015
Natknow, seems that I cannot play track called Scotland’s Shame anymore….has this been sabotaged by der Hun…?
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Just went on iTunes there mate and I’m able to preview it – have you downloaded the tune?
Wooooffftt!!! Australia equalize against Germany 1-1, not a bad game for a friendly (although totally devoid of atmosphere)
Anya and S Fletcher in the summer please
Just your calling them ulster born scots and British
Parkheadcumsalford
Nope not that I heard.
squire danaher
20:15 on
25 March, 2015
Oglach
Much as they do may not like it
Anyone born in the North of Ireland is Irish
I have a UK passport but the last thing I would describe myself as being is British.
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To quote the Duke of Wellington (born in Ireland) ” Just because a horse isn’t born in a stable doesn’t mean its not a horse”. I believe that the majority of those supporting Norn Ireland would argue that they are not Irish but rather Ulster Scots.