I see The Herald were forced to reconsider Martin William’s hasty article, posted first online last night but now amended, where they repeat an erroneous claim that in 2001 Celtic claimed the word ‘hun’ is sectarian. The current version of the article makes no such reference.
Much of what remains of the article is a random collection of quotes, appeals and one assertion by Williams that “Celtic warned fans they can no longer call Rangers fans ‘h***’ 14 years ago”, which appears to be based on a quote by then club employee John Cole’s etiquette requirement for a forum he administered.
This is a classic manipulative argument technique (and by classic I mean the ancient Greeks first identified it). Take a statement by someone, for example:
The word f*** is not allowed on CQN, because the administrator acknowledged that it “can cause offence”.
Ignore the fact that the same administrator would never dream of chastising someone for using the word away from the blog, as the word is not inherently offensive as it does not, for example, offend at a comedy show.
State that some people believe the word to be inherently offensive in itself, or worse.
Build momentum for your argument by reminding readers that CQN’ers have been warned they can no longer use it, without issuing any caveats to the context.
Then allow your tenuous references to dovetail into an argument.
It’s an absurd and driven technique for the hard of thinking. It is also patently transparent.
Celtic picked this matter up at the time of first publication and are considering their position in relation to various items published yesterday.
As a friend said last night, “What a sad little country”.
877 Comments- Pages:
- «
- 1
- ...
- 5
- 6
- 7
- 8
- 9
- 10
- 11
- ...
- 24
- »
Burgas
Aye, one of those when you want both of them to lose, well I do anyways.
A bigot fest to beat all bigot fests is this fixture.
HH
Sorry Ernie, I misread your Wapping quote, it made me smile, I need to stop speed reading,
Geordie Munro, go for it, I had thought about it for the last year, now that I have cancelled sky the BBC will be next,
good luck and
Happy Celticing. .
The non iron strips are out in Blantyres Hun hole already
Huns have more faces than the town clock
winning captains
16:53 on
25 March, 2015
Did you ever get any response from Dundee Utd re the conduct of their support at Celtic Park?
THE EXILED TIM
I dont suppose they’ll be any need for segregation either -)))
Ernie
Whatever gets you through the day. We’re you at Wapping? I spent a fair bit of time at Kinning Park. But you have me labelled again. Your good at that aren’t you? Labelling
blantyretim is praying for the Knox family
The non iron strips are out in Blantyres Hun hole already.
_________________-
-))) Surely High Blantyre BT?
Burgas
I can just imagine the suits in their sash’s and aprons :)
HH
winning captains
16:53 on
25 March, 2015
More power to you all
blantyretim is praying for the Knox family
17:18 on
25 March, 2015
The non iron strips are out in Blantyres Hun hole already
Huns have more faces than the town clock
Town clocks everywhere will be mortally offended at their faces being compared to the grotesque coupon of a hun.:)
Burgas
Afraid not
Stonefield Tavern at top of station road is only Hun shop in Low Blantyre
BB
the hun that made that remark at the grosvenor last year is the guy that owns the louden at ibrox,used to own the duke st one
Glendalys
Was going to link the four faced town clock but decided against it
Hi CQN
Hope you are all doing fine.
Just popped in to say very little.
Árd Macha
buick makane
Marshall?
So if earlier posts on here were accurate, and Paul Bouffant Murray is a member of the RST, you have the current chairman of Sevco allied to a group that just called Celtic a racist and sectarian organisation. Time for the SFA to act…no chance.
My player of the year Bitton by a country mile, without him, the Broonies and Johansons couldn’t do what they do.
He is our metronome.
HH
Stairheedrammy
They are accurate.
HH
corkcelt.
Possibly a very long shot – but – .
Do you know anything about a group of female singers in late 1950s / early 60s Cork – The Keening Women’s Alliance.?.
BT,
Supposedly fernando Ricksen is making an appearance at some hun pub in Blantyre tonight.
burgas hoops
17:12 on 25 March, 2015
!!Bada Bing!!
You have scoddland V the occupied 6 tonight. -)))
International games are an inconvenience for me, they get in the road of Celtic games,but to be honest I think the players could do with a wee break after a lot of games recently. The only interest I have ,is the Bhoys come back fit for our next game mate.HH
buick makane
17:27 on 25 March, 2015
BB
the hun that made that remark at the grosvenor last year is the guy that owns the louden at ibrox,used to own the duke st one
I know who you mean mate
Sipsini
It will be the 1 mentioned earlier
No Nomad?
Clogher Celt
Is the email addy for Dublin2016@gmail.com or Dublin2016mail.com ?
Second word in Paul’s headline was interesting…
BT,
Just had a look, yep, you’re spot on.
HT
yup
Paul67
Great article always leading the way, the fight for equality goes on.
“We will not be treated differently”
John Reid
*then he retired*
Is Hun illegal yet? What about zombie? the great unwashed? knuckle draggers?skanks?oldco?sevco?/newco? Craigie Whyte’s liquidated army?Huney,I’ve shrunk the league? horsemen of the apocalypse?deidco?deidco 2?deidco 3,Craig Whyte’s revenge?
Missed any?
Scotland’s 4th oldest football club, founded in 1872,
just after Queen’s Park (1867),
Kilmarnock (1869) and
Stranraer (1870)………………………………
And known as ……………………………………….
The Sons!
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
auldheid @ 17 05.
Indeed -The ” peedo ” nonsense is vile .
That said – My Aberdeen FC pal and his wife are not pleased to be called Zoophiles whenever they attend a fitba match in Scotland.
SoT
Thanks i heard a rumour ther was a few Hibs fans involved in makin it too
El flaco
Really?! There surely has to a few Tims involved as well then
WC-Back to your cryptic best…..)
Whoever wins player of the year, there is no outstanding candidate. Brown, Johansen, Biton, Gordon, VVD and Denayer have all been superb at different times.
Personally I would give it to Brown because he is the biggest influence on the team. Players from other clubs are likely to notice that so I would think he will win Players Player.
SoT
In recent years the Dons fans have embraced the animal worriers label. So much so that they now sing, “We’re only sheep sh***ing bas*****!” and chuck blow up sheep about amongst their own.
theglasgowcelticway
Can of worms.
burgas hoops
17:20 on 25 March, 2015
THE EXILED TIM
I dont suppose they’ll be any need for segregation either -)))
_________
Most huns I know, well huns in the work hate the tartan army, their sites are also full of bile towards them.
Don’t be too surprised if the atmosphere gets a bit tetchy.