“I brought Charles Green in to buy Rangers” screams the BBC headline ahead of this evening’s interview by Chris McLaughlin of the Last King of Rangers, Our Hero, Craig Whyte. Whyte has retained private contact with a couple of journalists but he has previously declined earnest requests to go on the record given the level of investigation he is under. The wrong word could be costly.
But here it is, “I brought Charles Green in to buy Rangers”. An unequivocal assertion.
The interview will be broadcast on Reporting Scotland and Newsnight Scotland this evening and has been trailed by every outlet in the land (first trailed by Phil Mac Giolla Bhain last night). There appears to be genuine surprise in many news outlets. CQN’ers will be busy checking this this is, in fact, news, not a rehash of an earlier established fact (it is genuine news).
It has been a few months since Our Hero was The Only Show in Town but he can still put on a captivating performance.
Charles Green has yet to respond but he will. He has no choice. He could categorically deny the claim, citing Whyte’s court-established reliability, but to do that he’ll have to calculate that corroborating material will not emerge. The wrong word now could torpedo hopes of a successful share issue next month
A bombastic statement from well-polished PR people is what’s needed. I hope we’re not disappointed.
“I brought Charles Green in to buy Rangers”. Kaboom!
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sftbs and others
Jim Murphy did more than just give out soundbites.
He met with and directly spoke to Lloyds about Rangers and therefore on their behalf.
He didn’t follow it through because like Salmond with HMRC he could not do anything about their predicament.
It’s playing politics
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5654230,00.html
http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=128766&st=20
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/d/dundee_utd/8334649.stm
The last one is the most interesting link – it features Craig Levein’s take on the whole thing in October 2009. Murphy said nothing in support of Dundee United and their debt in 2009.
Can I have jelly..
I was refering to a post earlier about masonic signs.
Get what you mean though.hail hail.
A Ceiler…,
his rebuff was probably written weeks ago when this was all scripted
Here’s a couple of other articles mentioning James Murphys intervention on behalf of Scottish teams (Rangers) and their credit lenders (Lloyds TSB).
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/6440632/Secretary-of-State-for-Scotland-Jim-Murphy-holds-talks-with-Rangers-bankers.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/8327429.stm
Here is an article mentioning James Murphy’s intervention on behalf of rangers, and how he could possibly be useful in intervening to help other Scottish Clubs – like Dundee United.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/dundee_utd/8334649.stm
Sorry, I cannot find any news stories after this to outline when James Murphy, Secretary of State for Scotland, met with any of the credit lenders of any of the other Football teams in Scotland to intervent on their behalf.
Nighty night.
Lennybhoy…Supporting Neil Lennon and CFC until I die
23:13 on
17 October, 2012
Jabba…SDM reduced the debt from £85 million to £18 million…aye by not paying taxes and using EBTs…stupid hack.
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and using MIH to reduce RFC debt, by loading up debt with his pals at the bank
Does CQN stand for Censoship Quick News?
I posted the complete works of Billy Nowell on Saturday night / Sunday morning (maybe 14- 16 songs as links) and recieved a message saying my post was under moderation.
I’m still waiting on it arriving on the site or at least an explanation as to why it was unsuitable. I think in my time here I’ve seen all his fantastic works posted but usually individually. Why would it be inappropriate to post them all together? I’ll try posting it again some time.
Booooooo CQN moderator. I thought censorship was the realm of the hun and the DR.
Mon the hoops and geis another song aboot craigy bhoy, BN.:-)
Remember super sally whispering in Lennys ear?
Ahhh Karma!!
B-)
The Comfortable Collective
00:04 on 18 October, 2012
‘I know it is a bit unfair to ask you off the hoof, but could you find another example of James Francis Murphy INTERVENING (sorry for the capitals, I cant do the bold thing) on behalf of another Scottish club with their credit lenders.’
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I’m not aware of any other club facing closure.
Which clubs are you thinking of?
Did any other politicians intervene in relation to the clubs you’re thinking of?
Or are you just desperately trying to deflect attention away from Salmond?
Jabba went to the same school as Pat Nevin which taught faux intellectual pencil and spectacle twirling.
The trick is to look pensive while doing pencil/glasses rotation.
Stroking chin is the next level.
TCC
“I know it is a bit unfair to ask you off the hoof, but could you find another example of James Francis Murphy INTERVENING (sorry for the capitals, I cant do the bold thing) on behalf of another Scottish club with their credit lenders.
Trust me, you won’t. He didn’t.”
Nothing unfair about your request at all but you’ve slightly misunderstood me.
My comment about other interventions not resulting in any publicity was about the fact that all the interventions he will have carried out on behalf of firms, including other football clubs, none would have been high profile enough to get publicity outwith his local paper.
As an MP for East Ren., I would be surprised if he has never been approached by Neilston Juniors or Arthurlie or Giffnock Amateurs about some matter or another. I have no proof of this but I think most readers will find it a reasonable speculation knowing how much rubbish passes through an MP’s desk before being foisted on to some local official or councillor. The MP’s (of any party) motivation is to be seen to do something and to write a letter back to show that something was done.
The damaging question that needs to be asked of Jim Murphy’s intervention is “What did he achieve by it?”
If he persuaded Lloyd’s to do something they did not want to do, for the benefit of Rangers, you will have proved his partiality. I did not see Lloyd’s do anything but continue to act in their own best interests, after Mr. Murphy’s intervention.
By being seen to be supportive of Rangers in a public meeting, I doubt that Jim Murphy would have won over any Sevco votes he did not have, but he will have prevented any Sevco Labour voter in East Ren. being able to say, “I’m no voting Labour because that Timmy bassa wouldn’t lift a finger to try to help Ra Rangers oot”
And I really do not want to say any more about him. His role in this affair was minimal and ineffective.
people trying to turn this into party politics wjen we should be demanding full public inquiery
The Comfortable Collective – 23:52
,“Well, except perhaps that Salmond is a hun, and has a soft spot for the huns, obviously, so perhaps his reasons are one dimentional and understandable – he is a hun.
I wonder what reason well known ‘tim’ James Francis Murphy had.”
Why is hun not worthy of apostrophes but ‘tim’ is? Bit discriminatory if you ask me.
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire
00:14 on 18 October, 2012
A Ceiler…,
his rebuff was probably written weeks ago when this was all scripted
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Are you saying jabba the jurno is a wringer?
He gies ye the heebie jeabies when you listen to him. But when you see him in the flesh those heebies and jeabies turn into the dry boak.
I look forward to hearing what others say of his hun supporting whitterings in the coming days.
HH
TCC & Snake
Not many votes in it for Jim Murphy or any other West of Scotland MP to speak with Dundee United’s bankers and I am not sure if he was asked to do so. I would have thought that some East of Scotland MPs, Labour and SNP, would be more likely to do so.
Still waiting on SDM’s response/thoughts on the man who `duped’ him getting Beeb spotlight tonight – or was that his own script they used?
canamalar
Agreed.
Whatever Salmond or Murphy did, they did not dream up and plan(?) this scam.
Our concentration should be on Murray, Green and Whyte, Duff & Phelps, Ticketus, the SFA, SPL and SFL, and all legal advisors to this prolonged scam.
I doubt we will find a politician at the centre of it. I also doubt we will find one without plausible deniability. I doubt Alex Salmond is losing any sleep over Craig Whyte’s attempt to involve him in the story. He will wriggle free fairly easily, I predict.
st.john.doyle
00:02 on
18 October, 2012
Are you sure about 100% non-catholic cabinet? Do you want to reconsider?
The Comfortable Collective and anybody else who may be remotely interested:
http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_phrase_elements.asp
that page will tell you how to use html tags.
the tags must be inside the chevrons and you must remember to use the forward slash / to reverse what you have done and put the rest of your post back to normal font.
i.e. stong (inside chevrons) will make your text bold /stong (inside chevrons) after you are finished bolding will revert your remaining post to normal.
em /em
strong /strong
blockquote /blockquote
all inside chevrons are the three that I use the most. (N.B. A lot of the others won’t work)
Salmond furiously denied in the Scottish Parliament that he had been asked by Murray to intervene with HMRC on behalf of Rangers.
Which is true. It wasn’t Murray. It was Murray’s long-time associate Sir Angus Grossart, who was an old banker pal of Salmond’s. Indeed, wee fat Eck even appointed him head of his fundraising quango Scottish Futures Trust . . . a dismal failure.
Salmond has blocked every Freedom of Information bid to find out how many times he contacted HMRC and what he said to them.
If it can be proved that he got Cameron to intervene as well, his lardy goose will be well and truly cooked.
The complete works of Billy Nowell…………………
Maybe this time.
The Complete Works of Billy Nowell.
Billys Lament by Billy Nowell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMyh1cGUUBs
The Laughing Tim by Billy Nowell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqiXRNqPMwk
Stadium of Silence by Billy Nowell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylucI-soxJ4
You Are Dead by Billy Nowell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Bj3OnPoIM
Sir Minty by Billy Nowell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-4s-P8-2Rk
Subhuman Hunsick Blues by Billy Nowell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RriKdXTAfvI
Yes We Will Survive by Billy Nowell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZMR3Xt1NIY
Murray Murray Murray by Billy Nowell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iee8EFQeVWE
A Story by Billy Nowell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQEb-rJgy9I
Goodbye Glasgow Rangers by Billy Nowell/Celticminded.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zi4FwUGsX4
Smelt like Dung by Billy Nowell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ybPBXIpEis
The Trophy Stripper by Billy Nowell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuzLvBuxxfo
League With No Shame by Billy Nowell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgKXfEcZlMY
Always Chasing Rainbows by Billy Nowell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzdZA7ZhA2M
Charlie Said by Billy Nowell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYXIhxBPvpQ
He’s more Than A Hero to Me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HyPCe73fdw
He’s a Tim by Billy Nowell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zt06w1eEOs
Maybe this time.
A Ceiler Gonof Rust
00:37 on 18 October, 2012
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SFTBs
I think we’re all not a million miles away.
Murphy was smart enough to have what he “did’ offered or said in his meeting with Lloyds (because that is what the papers/ media reported, a press release from one of his people) published and as you say nothing came of it.
How much do we really know about what Alex Salmond said to HMRC? We have the word of Craig Whyte that Salmond tried to speak to them on behalf of Rangers but just like with Jim Murphy we do not know what he actually said because presently we have no firm evidence of anything, only speculation.
If people have tried to get a FOI request about his correspondence with HMRC and been turned down then that does not look good and adds fuel to the fire for me.
The problem the SNP face is more complex than anything Labour have to worry about. Labour know they’ll always get a majority Scottish vote in a General election, the SNP do not have that luxury when it comes to an Independence referendum because of divisions in Scottish society which we all know about.
The SNP have to court votes in a different manner to Labour and for different reasons and that’s why they have to be seen to be for everybody without being overly supportive of somebody – a bloody hard task and much harder than courting the my Da voted Labour and his Da voted Labour mindset still ingrained in much of Scotland (particularly the West).
I think (but could be wrong) that Alex Salmond wanted to appear receptive to helping a “Scottish institution” at the very least and had he pulled off a repayment plan that got all tax payer money he’d have won a watch certainly with the media who would love him for saving Rangers and among other people who could applaud him for getting tax-payers money back.
The fact that he supports the Semi-Skimmed thems clearly factors into it as well and I do not doubt that a fair number of SNP people support Rangers among other clubs.
Around the table it sounds a good plan and the only folk who would be angry are folk like us because he didn’t do it for us in 1994 but he was not quite in the same position as he is now and there was no Scottish Parliament we cannot say for sure that he wouldn’t have done it for Celtic (but I suspect he wouldn’t have).
The fact that Whyte went to him and instigated the intervention for me is the only saving grace. If he’d have come up with this off his own back, I think I’d have been more angry.
I don’t think the blog supports any post with more than three links in it.
I wouldn’t take it personally. I’ve lost a few posts too.
Paul67, please email me and explain why this post is never to see the light of day?
Thanks
ACGR
Back to lurking for me then.
HH Celtic men and wummin.
What more do bloody Celtic fans want?
RANGERS 2012 ARE IN DIVISION THREE!!!!!!!!!
I cannot believe how ungrateful some Celtic fans are on here at times.
First it was every other club supporting Rangers ahead of Celtic. That excuse had to be ticked off the box.
Then every wee team was going to lie down to Rangers 2012, that excuse has now had to be shelved.
What next to fill some sad Celtic fans’ live is it to be next?
I shall repeat.
RANGERS 2012 ARE IN DIVISION THREE!!!!!!!!!
I think many Labour supporting (and no doubt pro-Iraq war supporting and pro-Trident supporting, and let’s be honest, anti-Scottish, or racist by another name) people are forgetting something very clearly, Rangers will be liquidated on Alex Salmond’s watch.
It was under the unionist (Conservative & Unionist, oh and Labour for 60 years, keeping the Scottish poor back and down) watch that Catholics didn’t get jobs in the yards, or were incarcerated into human zoos also known as peripheral estates, or new towns.
Being the man who was the senior politician when Rangers go kaput is hardly something for Celtic fans to string Eck up for, although my reckoning is most peoples wet dream on here is for Celtic to play Rangers every day of the week; morning, noon and night.
As you can gather, Rangers v Celtic stop doing something for me, years ago, Europe is where it’s at and thankfully, that’s where we’re at.
Here’s a question for all you Irish-Nationalists / Scottish Unionists (these are invariably the same person, just like those Americans who are pro-life and in favour of the death penalty)
How England’s balance of trade deficit going to be solved without Scotland’s oil surplus used for the past 40 years as the counterweight?
In other words
How much money does England export on its ownio?
How much money does England import on its ownio?
The answer to both these questions is why I will be voting in a particular way in 2014.
Thank you and goodnight!!!
:-) :-) :-) :-)
SmugnProudofScotlandsExportsCSC
How about a quick straw poll? Who thinks that the whole sorry tale of the death of the huns will ever be in the public domain?
I think not, but i live in hope.
Cheers kitalba, I’ll delurk myself and remember that rule.
Gnite and may craigy boy bite.
P.S. what happened to BMCUWP, he used to talk to me.
HAW
A Ceiler Gonof Rust
Its automatic moderation by blog software on numberr of links. Not sure of the limit but more than two seems to trigger it from memory.
As I recall, there was supposed to be a Parliamentary enquiry into the events at Corruption Inc FC / Pestilence FC / Sevco…
Did it ever get off the ground?
If the events surrounding Pestilence FC had happened here in Oz there would be a Royal Commission into the whole sordid affair.
Quite clearly these events have embroiled some of the highest ranking officials in society: the administrators of the national game, various government departments, the First Minister of Scotland and possibly the Prime Minister of the UK, the full range of MSM and a wide range of other authorities whose role is supposedly to enforce the law of the land.
Pestilence FC is the most appropriate name for them. Everything and everyone who has had anything to do with them has become contaminated with the disease of corruption.
Any honest supporter of Sevco (are there any?) would be demanding a full investigation. Instead, they continue their stance of denial, refusing to accept any testimony or other evidence which might besmirch their ‘great club’ and their ‘proud history’.
Beyond any shadow of doubt, this is Scotlands Watergate.
The rancid smell of corruption is spewing forth from the heart of Scottish football & beyond, into the very fabric of Scottish society.
If Scotland votes “Yes”, you can bet your house on this whole sordid affair being buried pronto.
Fortunately, I don’t live in Scotland anymore. If I did, I would be screaming “NO” when asked about the referendum. I am no lover of the English but the thought of Scotland being run by Salmond and his followers scares the hell out of me.
Just in case it hasn’t yet been seen, Alanmac posted these videos on YouTube of the Chris McLaughlan with our Local Hero.
Part 1 http://youtu.be/bCv0hy4wwiI
Part 2 http://youtu.be/sjNA3XtjkVY
Part 3 http://youtu.be/AVftRyH6-k4
Enjoy
Snake Plissken
As you say not a lot between us in terms of views.
I would cavil only with your :- “a bloody hard task and much harder than courting the my Da voted Labour and his Da voted Labour mindset still ingrained in much of Scotland (particularly the West).”
It is one of the less attractive features of the pro-SNP posters on here that they repeat this view that carries the implications that our fathers and forefathers were unthinking monkeys in choosing to vote Labour in Scotland.
These bright people knew fine well why they were voting Labour and why other parties, Conservative, Liberal or fledgeling Nationalist parties, did not represent them. Hell! they hardly needed to research it; the other parties told them they were little interested in the views and voting intentions of the immigrant Irish and the Papists.
Now, for similar reasons, I differ from ernie lynch in blaming the modern SNP for the genuine sins of their forefathers, but I still get annoyed when the rhetoric gets around to “blind faith” voting. Just as it was wrong to accuse my defence of Neil Lennon as being based on “blind faith” so is it wrong to accuse me and others who have voted Labour in the past as being merely habitual or unthinking in our approach to voting choice. My forefathers passed on their values to me and they resonate yet, whether the boundary they operate in is defined as Shetland to Gretna, Lands End to John O’Groats, Dublin to Sofia, or the global world itself.
We each have our own reasons for having reached the voting position we have but I find 3 strands of SNP politics carry implicit insults:-
1) You vote Labour out of habit
2) You favour other nation’s sovereignty but not your own 3) Labour have not solved Scottish poverty, so vote SNP.
I find these rhetorical arguments to be as simplistic and sloganising as ” I’ve never seen a zone score a goal”.
And yes, before we get bogged further down on party politics, Labour was wrong, dead wrong, on Nuclear weapons, Irag war, and loosening bank regulations.
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a ceiler gonof rust
00:37 on 18 October, 2012
Maybe this time.
A Ceiler Gonof Rust
00:37 on 18 October, 2012
Your comment is awaiting moderation
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I think the Limit is 5 links per post it will be the Server Not Paul67.. Unless he sits up all night waiting for Naughty Posters..;0)
Summa
I am very very drunk tonight, who would ever believe the Huns do not exist but their bastard son is in the 4 th tier of Scottish football, their former owner has been telling all and sundry, the previous owners were crooks and charlatans, he might have been a wee bit of a tam pepper but hey they were bigger crooks than me! Surely a night like this deserves a wee bit more of the red wine, a watch at game of thrones and a wee prayer to those dilligent bhoys at HMRC and BDO, now if only sky atlantic could make a series……
Could someone email this back to me tomorrow before I head for Spain!
Rusty
Too many links for WordPress. Nought to do with CQN.
Try 5 at a time.
MWD Where is my popcorn
Pics from John Paul Academy Wee_Oscar cycle to Paradise.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/61614987@N07/sets/72157631794722113/
More will appear via same link as and when uploaded.
MWD
‘GG
Thx for posting, don’t think it makes the iPlayer til tomorrow…
Chris Mc comes across well, restores his serious journo credentials to a decent degree.
Thought it telling that CW says the previous board were taking insolvency advice.
HH
Jabba arch-presstitute, the corpulent voice of reason on Newsnight Scotland?
Says it all, really.
Thank god I didn’t see that. It’d be the televisual equivalent of schizophrenia.