Sir David Murray, Campbell Ogilvie, Dave King, as directors of a football club, you presided over tax evasion. While ordinary men and women have no choice, or criminal urge, to avoid paying for public services, you directed a deception on an industrial scale.
Sir David Murray and Campbell Ogilvie have their influence and signatures all over this act. The SFA was quick to discipline and sine die Craig Whyte after he was out of the game, it must now charge Murray and Ogilvie with bringing the game into disrepute. The stale influence of cronyism at Hampden must be routed and seen to be so.
The SPFL instructed an inquiry three years ago but with this verdict in, the SFA must appoint their own inquiry.
Why did the processes at Hampden allow this to happen and continue without check?
Why did Rangers get their European licence in 2011 despite being in arrears to HMRC, in contravention of that licence? Who was responsible for this decision?
Why was a director and signatory of Rangers illegal tax schemes elected and reappointed president of the SFA?
How transparent were the SFA and the SPL in their handling of these tax evasion charges?
Was the SPL inquiry commissioned to uncover the facts, or to meet a desired objective? Who prepared the inquiry remit and who signed off on that remit?
Lord Nimmo Smith found that legally executed Employee Benefit Trusts did not confer a significant sporting advantage. In light of what I have already read of the verdict, we must now discover if such widespread illegal Employee Benefit Trusts conferred a sporting advantage. This question has not been asked yet.
It’s time for football to shake off the shackles of corruption in Scotland, as elsewhere.
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Good evening, friends.
HeidiPoonCSC
DD to issue an apology on behalf of the huns.
A big boy done it and hobbled away.
Mark Daly is Jim Spence Mark Two?
GREENPINATA on 4TH NOVEMBER 2015 4:29 PM
Bawsman @04.22 hrs,
“Today’s decision may be appealed against by the liquidators, and the saga could continue”
Now I am baffled. Why would the liquidators appeal, and who would pay for this appeal if it were to happen?
In the end, just as with the shysters at the banks, it will Joe Public without access to fancy lawyers and accountants who will be required to foot the bill.
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Mark Hately says losing big tax case is as good a getting a line of credit from thee banks.
Remember your own personal Bond name in time for seeing the new movie,
Surname, Christian Name, Surname
I know what you meant.
Amazing on a day like today with the HMRC result, the huns annual report making fun reading and Mike Ashley stitching Dave King up with a court case on December 9th, the first thing that some people on this blog do is bring Celtic, Peter Lawwell etc into it in a negative fashion.
Sad really, let us have 1 day where we can laugh and point at the hun without bringing out your prejudices…
Looks like they’re gonna need a bigger Magic Hat
RWE
i believe you are correct re those who claim to govern our game.
in meejah terms the narrative that this is nothing to do with the new club this is incorrect.
especially when said club which was ‘accepted into’ our league is suggesting not only is it the same club as the liquidated mess left by Cheat Murray,it is claiming its titles.time to shine a light on the cheats who govern and run our football,The same people who claim kudos by having ‘Lord Nimmo Smith’when he was in fact a paid consultant
good blog today on Tony :-)
hope alls good
HH
West End of East End on 4th November 2015 4:40 pm
Posting as one who has brought PL and DD into today’s events.
If the pair of them sit on their hands, all we will get is a good laugh.
The judgement delivered by Lord Drummond Young reads:
“A scheme involving payments to various trusts set up in respect of executives and footballers employed by the former Rangers Football Club amounted to “a mere redirection of emoluments or earnings” and was accordingly “subject to income tax”.
May I direct my learned friends to the phrase “the FORMER Rangers Football CLUB”
I rest my case.
Perrymasoncsc.
Breithla Shona Dena
From Alex Thomsons article today
“HMRC will now lodge a claim with the old Rangers company which will be substantially bigger now they have won their appeal. The taxman believes the old company still has money and they say they are due some of it now in unpaid taxation. They also point out that the old Rangers club can also appeal if they wish, to the Supreme Court.”
He also made it clear that the judges used phrases such “common sense” and “self evident” and almost dared Oldco to try an appeal to the UK Supreme Court just for the fun of it.
Meanwhile over in the Asbestos Dome, LaLa Land – Glibby is moving a pound coin from pocket to pocket and telling everyone that things are grand.
The line of people outside his window is not for match day tickets but for payment of all outstanding bills.
Oh I forgot he’ll be at Stamford Bridge today…
Is an annual running cost of £27million and failing to make the SPL another Sevco world record?
Mark Daly told the truth and was slandered from pillar to post.
Must be a happy man today:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-34723209
They even try to bury bad news inside badder news.
Nike Fridays were shite
New balance Wednesdays are much better :)
Was new balance a message :)
McLaughlin in full concentration mode on Reporting Scoddland,job at stake, as he avoids using the word ‘club’ wherever he can say ‘company’ instead, despite working for an organisation that correctly stated the facts about incorporation in a submission to the BBC Trust back in 2013.
And I quote. . .
“A football club, once incorporated, is indistinguishable from its corporate identity.
If the club was separate, it would need its own constitution, committee members, trustees etc.
Rangers Football Club does not have that because it is incorporated”
I wonder who’ll be the first hun to mention Juninho?
GIRUY
A glorious day.
COYBIG
Today has reminded me of one of the most obnoxious pieces of churnalism I have ever read. Traynor`s final words in a final article which he used to pour scornon all those who had said Rangers had cheated via EBT`s:
” I was asked to remain but my conscience won’t allow me to stay in our profession.
The kind of journalism needed by the country, never mind sport, no longer exists in enough of the media outlets.”
JJ
Judges using common sense, now imagine if that caught on across the Brotherhood.
I think Paul himself said a day or two ago that this was going to the Supreme Court which I assumed meant HMRC would once again lose today. never make assumptions, eh?
Meanwhile, if only it could be disclosed as to why Souness got an EBT. Everyone else was involved with the team at the time, either playing for it, managing it, owning it, or working for it. Most, if not all of them, would have been told they had nothing to worry about, just part of their remuneration deal.
Souness’s payment on the other hand stinks of a dirty transfer deal and an illegal payment.
It’s good to see that the BBC are very quick to confirm that it won’t affect Sevco, and underlining for everyone that of course it can’t, because they are a different club.
Prior to the FFin’ judgement:
“Anyone want to bet against HMRC appealing?”
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“Of course they’ll appeal,unlimited public funds dictate this.”
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“HMRC must be sick of getting their bottoms smacked in court, you would think by now they would turn it up.”
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“It’s 3-0 and they only have one more appeal left until the end of the road…”
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“The [Descendants of the Drowner] tweeted about 5 or 6 weeks ago that HMRC had lost again and have only one more appeal option left.Very good news in terms of getting OldCo back out of liquidation.”
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“it has without question gone in Rangers’ favour, again. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind whatsoever.”
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“I hope the decision a) goes our way and b) has common sense applied and gived HMRC no right of appeal, ending this witch-hunt.” Common sense you say Sammy?
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After the FFin’ judgement:
“The law does not work on common sense it works on the letter of the law, so common sense tells me this decision is flawed due to the over use of common sense instead of the law.”
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“BDO. Don’t they have an obligation on maximising return for shareholders?”
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“What i do not get is ‘Lord Drummond Young himself said in his ruling that if the club hadn’t operated the EBT scheme, some players “might well have taken their services elsewhere’.
How the F&ck does he know that? he was to give a rulling based on the evidence not his personal opinion!!!!”
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“Exactly!!!…How the feck does he know what they would have done?….that statement is so hypothetical”
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“It is absolutely ludicrous to suggest a sporting advantage was gained.”
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“It can’t be the case that two separate tribunals have read the law one way but one other sees it differently and this is the end of it.
Common sense, for example, cannot be used in a legal determination, can it?”
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“As you say ‘common sense’ would be more likely to read to me ‘it was legal at the time you can’t backtrack now’
It’s far too complicated an area of law to have a ‘down the pub’ type logistic spun on it.”
Auldheid is working on showing the original agreement going into the LNS inquiery, had flawed qualifications that require investigation and reassessment of the remit.
It makes any agreement made, void :)
To the legals:
If HMRC are going to chase BDO for the money, is it possible/likely that they will try to call the asset sale a sham and try to put a sensible value on it?
Think someone posted earlier that the latest accounts had re-valued the properties at higher values?
Now that it has been declared illegal why can’t HMRC claim the tax back from the beneficiaries?
I have a live link for the development squad game that starts soon – am I breaking any blog rules by posting it ?
SYD NEGAKEV on 4TH NOVEMBER 2015 4:52 PM
I wonder who’ll be the first hun to mention Juninho.
I doubt if any will.
To do so would highlight Timmy being smart enough to have nothing more to do with EBT’s
GIRUY
A glorious day.
COYBIG
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An Tearmann
A grand day in so many ways.
Setting off for Virginia in an hour.
4 hour drive there and 4 hour drive back so past midnight when we get home but a liquid nightcap will follow.
Thanks for all your support.
From Mark Daly’s piece on the BBC website just now:
“Today’s decision may be appealed against by the liquidators, and the saga could continue.
But ultimately, who has paid for this disaster?
The fans, of course.”
Errmm…you mean “The taxpayers” – don’t you?
“Drummond Young………..”
Whit a handle!
Friendly Fire, Blue-on-Blue CSC
Thull no’ like that!
Guid.
:)
We live in a stinking little bigoted country which would be bankrupt if living on it’s own resources.
A country with disfunctional NHS, Police, Education, Legal System; Councils starved of money to spend on the sick,elderly, young and disabled, through a pernicious Council Tax Freeze, where laws are inacted to ‘even up’ and manipulate the long-standing bias and sectarianism against the minority.
So please don’t hold your breath in anticipation of any fair outcome to the blatant cheating of the institution that represents the ‘establishment at play’ in this bitter little place where we dwell
They do what they like and what they can get away with, blatantly and and even in disapproval and bewilderment by other parts of the UK, God help us if they ever able to draw the cloak of independence around Scotland – our 17% would be squeezed till our ‘pips sqeaked’- anyone who believes otherwise is a fool and a fantasist.
Charles Kickham
Might be better to encrypt to something like www forward slash celtic dot etc…. ;-)
BSR-The BBC reports are very careful not to mention it won’t affect the new club
Monaghan1900
You’re a sight for sore eyes mate and it is on days like today that we gather to remember those brave Souls who continue to work behind enemy lines.
A might Hail Hail to you my friend..
SP
Gene-i asked the same question,seems it is the job of BDO to chase the tax dodging individuals.It’s not a lot in a few cases,Chick Hun said Ogilvie’s EBT was just about enough for a good night out,£60,000.Not to mention a possible EBT from his time at Hearts.HH
So they need 2.5m external funding to get them to the end of the season?
What happened to “comfortably funded till the end of the season”????
Smart enough to operate a £6.000.000 scam.
Dumb enough allegedly, to be taken to the cleaners by a wee con man from Motherwell.
Oh Dearie, Dearie me.