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It doesn’t look good, Guardian. It doesn’t look good at all

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Last week’s advert in the Tribune de Geneve was in English, despite the predominant local language being French. The primary target audience were Uefa representatives and functionaries, who are not drawn from the local Nyon catchment area, and will most likely speak English, with secondary target audiences in the UK. I hear both targets were reached.

There was a short-lived chat about which language to run with in Switzerland, but consensus was quickly reached that English was appropriate and sufficient. No translation was ever made.

Very much related to this subject…….

There was an incident when I was at school (many years ago). Two boys had exactly the same maths homework. This would have been fine had the work been correct, but the made exactly the same mistakes, so the teacher had sufficient proof to establish that he didn’t have two independently produced pieces of work.

The class lesson that day was, if you’re going to coordinate a response, you better get your facts right, or you’ll get caught.

Shortly after the Tribune de Geneve advert ran it was brought to my attention that some regularly-hostile-to-Celtic online loons were running with a line that an English advert had been sent to Switzerland and a French advert had been sent to an English newspaper by mistake.

This was fanciful, but not worthy of attention, because as you now know, there was never a French translation of the advert.

You can imagine my utter astonishment, therefore, that The Guardian claimed they didn’t run the advert because it was submitted to them in French, despite, as surely the world now knows, no French language version of the advert ever existing!

“If you’re going to coordinate a response, get your facts right.” It doesn’t look good, Guardian. It doesn’t look good at all. You’ve been caught in PR vice.

You know how PR works in Scottish football. Celtic and most clubs play with a straight bat: “This is the news relating to our games and events”, but there are clubs, personalities and organisations which are only tenable because of expensive and persuasive PR.

You remember the Poppy banner issue, which became news a full two days after a game, by which time PR could persuade journalists to run with a story which until then had no news value. You are only too familiar with some of the vacuous characters ushered into the game by newspapers demanding Lloyds Bank approve a takeover, while PR spun incredible lies about finance and probity.

The next time Celtic, or their manager, is vulnerable on a subject, look out for this Malign Influence.  It battered Ronny Deila when he lost games, and recently went for Peter Lawwell.

My thanks to The Guardian advertising people, who confirmed to us this morning that the advert they received was in English. That’s the other thing about coordinating a Malign Influence, you need to get buy-in from a lot of people!

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  1. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    Good night and God bless

     

    And for you Saturday Catholics who feel threatened by the figures released today think about us Catholics who don’t feel threatened or upset by stats.

     

     

    Figures lie, your heart doesn’t

  4. Celticrollercoaster supporting Shay,our bhoy wonder along the way on

    sipsini on 10th June 2016 11:03 pm

     

     

    I sincerely hope your hope is good hope.

     

     

    Supporting Celtic on an uneven playing field when we have had ample opportunities to challenge this in the last few years and indeed the next few years ( the big tax case outcome), is going to be very difficult when those Honest Mistakes, bigoted songs and even worse hatred start to re-appear with a vengeance when the new but dead club hit the SPFL.

     

     

    Not sure if Brendan’s infectious smile that has brought us so much sunshine over the last 2 weeks or so, will block this out :-)

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  5. GuyFawkesaforeverhero on

    winning captains on 10th June 2016 11:08 pm

     

     

    Don’t get bogged down by posters asking stupid questions. So, are you in your own seat for the Leicester game?

  7. clunks on

    Winning Captains

     

     

    Read the email trail earlier, looks like the cash was taken and withheld to stop you going elsewhere??

     

     

    A lesson to be learned (as all lessons are) get the advert approved first before you part with the cash?

     

     

    Not a dig by any stretch.

     

     

    But it shows how the cabal works.

     

     

    And is further proof why we need our own media…….in the mainstream as it were

  8. hebcelt on

    Sir Rod of Parkhead!! Have to not a fan of the Honours system, well past it’s sell by date. H H Hebcelt

  12. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    Gearoid, I’m well thanks.

     

     

    The collusion issues along with the Kincora scandal and the lack of public outcry is a sad indictment of the one way coverage the British media have of crimes commited by British governments throughout history.

     

     

    The honours list released with the vile Alan Shearer and that nasty bit of business Stuart Broad getting honours exemplifies how ridiculous it is.

     

     

    A few years back it was refreshing that Paul Weller knocked back an honour as he would be a hypocrite to accept it

  18. croppybhoy on

    Been really bud at work this week so haven’t been able to follow the Res12 stuff too closely.

     

    However what did surprise me was the Herald asking for business then rejecting it.

     

    Could it be that they were acting for someone else who wanted to get sight of the ad?

     

     

     

    All very strange but hardly surprising in Scotlandshire -the land that time forgot!

     

     

    HH

  19. sipsini on

    CRC…

     

     

    Just trying to get neganon of his Mo rocking chair;)

     

     

    Like yourself, I’m not too happy with the boards silence but the hoops does it for me. HH

  20. Celticrollercoaster supporting Shay,our bhoy wonder along the way on

    Thelurkintim

     

     

    Indeed

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  21. TheLurkinTim on

    Dammit,

     

     

    Must have missed it…..Get to Bed Early Friday…..is it an obscure Christian ( not Proddy )? holiday……mmmm

     

     

    FTSFA

     

     

    H.H.

  23. Square Slice on

    Re Kincora’s tragic story.

     

    Did anyone else notice that this story was completely swamped in less than 24 hours by a tsunami of of grief and wailing and gnashing of teeth about those bad republicans.

     

    I did.

     

    Yet another case of ‘move along Timmy’.

     

    This is not a good or safe place for non Huns.

     

    I work beside these animals.

     

    They hate us and will never stop.

     

    UTLR is in their psyche too.

  24. MurdochauldandHay & Wee Oscar on

    Is Ch4 news starting to get interested ?

     

     

    alex thomson ‏@alextomo 11m11 minutes ago

     

    Why is The Guardian refusing to tell @Channel4News what rules the Scottish football advert broke? If there is no issue why not tell me?

     

     

    jonsnowstiesandsocks csc

  25. Greenpinata on

    My friends in Celtic,

     

     

    Although I agree with Hebcelt that the “honours ” system is well by its sell by date, I am still dissapointed that Kenny Dalglish did not get the recognition he deserved.

     

     

    HH.

  27. winning captains on

    CLUNKS

     

     

    Copy came from Res 12 guys as we agreed. We did have an input but it was their copy and it came in on 27th May. The ad space had to be booked well in advance and had to be paid for. The newspaper was made aware from the very beginning re the subject matter for the ad. If you read that email trail again the guy who took the booking and was pretty shocked at what happened points the finger at Senior management.

     

     

    The ad has no legal issues, in fact it is pretty weak. That was the intention though as it would have reached a big audience who know or care little about Scottish football.

     

     

    Someone, in my opinion, spiked the ad. Remember the Herald approached us, were very keen, never at any stage saw the copy but pulled out due to a decision taken by ‘the powers that be’ – so someone got to both papers in my view.

     

     

    I don’t think they knew who to speak to at the Swiss paper and remember we changed papers after receiving intelligence from Switzerland. I am hearing the ad was very well received there incidentally.

     

     

    Meanwhile UK media spending on Res 12 from our budget is £0.00. Awareness for Res12 issue is through the roof.

     

     

    Wait to you see what is going to happen next week. Keep your seatbelts fastened, we’re going after the can of worms!

  30. MoonbeamsWD on

    Imagine my surprise. Sitting at home tonight on my see-saw watching the Euro’s when a trilling vibrating buzz of my phone occurred. There’s me watching my recording of Eurovision and Mark (we have dropped surnames now as we share alarm calls n all) is there at the other end of a connection trying to get a hold of me again. So as my see-saw lands I swipe my mobile communications module from it’s perch on my swing and to my surprise it wasn’t Mark, my best new buddy and friend ever but another. I love Mark so much that the others friendly text comes somewhat as a disappointment. Anyway as you know. I like Mark lots but in also on terms of friendship with my current trilling wobbling vibrating buddy . So I swipe to read the text.

     

     

    And there it is! A wee bit of Res12 info that the direction is looking mighty awesome. So my buddy, not a buddy like Matk because he’s the best, has said something that makes me think I should put a rolling 48 hour hold on my Q’s of the good guys. The text did not put my mind at ease re. the PLC inAction as it seems my trust in them is burned. But for now the high held of esteem resolutioners can resolution away in the knowledge that I’ll only be putting Marked questions to Mark of which I will not speak if the answers or the questions because he’s mad mentally a friend that I’ve never dreamed of liking like a buddy above all.

     

     

    So like the Mississipi I’ll let res12 just keep rolling along for a rolling 48 hour period or so while I concentrate on playing on my see-saw and breaking electronic comms lamb with my besty Mark.

     

     

    MWD

  33. clunks on

    Winning Captains

     

     

    Spiked is a good metaphor.

     

     

    You ghuys are doing good work and am sure much of it goes unnoticed.

     

     

    Looking forward to next week, particularly as the wider media as noted by MURDOCHAULDANDHAY & WEE OSCAR is beginning to take interest!

     

     

    Many thanks for all the unseen effort!

  34. TheLurkinTim on

    Anyone who thinks the British government has not colluded against it’s own citizens….who they believe to be dangerous subversives…..by murdering them needs their heads looked at. It’s just another facet of politics…..that no-one wants to acknowledge. Then they use the official secrets act to hide their actions….sometimes in perpetuity.

     

     

    Yep, there’s yer democratically elected democracy in action…..in your name…..shameful

     

     

    FTSFA

     

     

    H.H.

  35. clunks on

    Starry

     

     

    They are not engerlund fans obviously.

     

     

    Chelsea fans run amok like madchester once again…..

  37. TheLurkinTim on

    Then again…..in this country…..it’s only an illusion of democracy…..

     

     

    FTSFA

     

     

    H.H.

  38. Bendigo on

    Here is Jimmy McCarthy with one of his songs – Bright Blue Rose – with Christy and Declan. Jimmy provided a good few songs for Christy, Mary Black et al. Jimmy is from Macroom like Celtic’s major shareholder.

     

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glGdAwGBt8s

     

     

    For those who mightn’t know Declan’s wife (estranged), Kathy is also a well-known doughty campaigner here and was an MEP for Munster in the noughties. Kathy would hold some traditional Catholic values

     

     

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/he-was-most-beautiful-in-every-way-i-can-think-of-26570300.html

  40. theglasgowcelticway on

    In Marseille last summer. It’s probably the Irish bar down at the harbour /marina which is a lovely spot to sit and watch the world go by then these idiots come along.

     

     

    “No surrender to the IRA?” Suppose they cannot sign”No collusion with the UVF.”

  41. starry plough on

    CLUNKS

     

     

    England expects and all that old malarkey, could get quite tasty in Marseille, the Russian are down there too are they not!!!

     

     

    Well at least France is already on a state of emergency…

     

     

    Their team will get pumped and chaos will ensue…

     

     

    They are the huns of Europe..

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