It’s not just about genius

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“People don’t realise how hard he trains or how much he works at it” – Kieran Tierney, talking about Leigh Griffiths. Therein lies a story. One young player, who has worked enormously on his development, recognising the efforts of our other clear success story from this season.

Anyone who believes there is a consistency in the application at training of professional footballers is misinformed. Some are there early and/or stay late to work on their own. Some breeze in at the last minute and never hang around to run, lift or practice with a ball after formal training ends.

The club provides players with breakfast and lunch, but can’t monitor their evening meals or snacks. Or more. Some don’t need to be monitored, others do.

In three months we’ll watch thousands of dedicated athletes, swimmers and sportspeople of many disciplines, pretty much all who work on their development 24×365. Some live lives in the margin of early rises and hermit-like lifestyles. Most footballers live a different reality.

Things are changing at Celtic – and have been going on since before the Ronny era. Players like Kieran Tierney have been brought up to understand the importance of lifestyle and hard work. For years, young players’ attitude has been a major factor in determining if Celtic will retain their services.

Success is not just about inherent genius.

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  1. TET

     

     

    Agreed!

     

     

    Any decent youngsters are usually loaned out before they get a chance with us.

     

     

    Very, very, few if any come back or come back and make a difference.

     

     

    I cringe when I see a young player is being loaned out. It usually means the end of his Celtic career.

  2. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    THE EXILED TIM on 28TH APRIL 2016 2:50 PM

     

     

    Hang on , pal.

     

     

    Let`s just see how things work out.

     

     

    New broom.

  3. archdeaconsbench on

    TIMALOY29 SLEEPS ON THE HEATED DRIVEWAY on 28TH APRIL 2016 2:51 PM

     

     

    Correct.

     

    Celtic do not/have never adopted the ‘Moneyball Strategy.’ Its amazing how often that term gets thrown about on here and elsewhere….

     

     

    Its not a theory or strategy thats applicable to football.

  4. traditionalist88 on

    NegAnon

     

     

    Why have you been waiting for Paul to do something about it?

     

     

    The Green Brigade, spelling notwithstanding, achieved more in a matter of minutes last week than you have in almost a year of airing your grievances on a blog.

     

     

    Not questioning your grievances here btw, although I think you may have jumped the gun, but you stated recently you would be willing to join any protest at CP which suggests you are actually aware that your numerous blog posts do not resonate much in the real world.

     

     

    So, what are you waiting for?

     

     

    HH

  5. THE EXILED TIM on 28TH APRIL 2016 2:50 PM

     

     

    To be fair to RD and it’s one of the few positives, he kept KT in the team when EI was fit again. Not sure other recent managers would have.

  6. Let’s all mention the game on Saturday to keep TURKEYBHOY happy!

     

     

    There, I’ve mentioned it!

     

     

    Hope somebody noticed!

     

     

    HH!!

  7. mike in toronto on

    Italiabhoy@ 1:28

     

     

    I sincerely hope you are wrong, but, I suspect that you are pretty much right.

     

     

    And if you are right, then the two clubs are not as different as I had believed (the fans, perhaps, but the clubs, not so). I do think the whole ‘religious’ element is overplayed by those in control in order to foster enmity and sell tickets. I had hoped that Celtic was above that, and their promotion of Celtic’s traditions was done out of genuine respect for our traditions. But, if they are not actively opposing the whole ‘same club’ nonsense, it does suggest to me that they see the whole OF thing as their best way to make a buck. and, telling a lie may be worse than going along with the lie, but going along with that lie, simply for money, is still pretty bad, and not something with which I would want Celtic involved. And not something with which I would wish to be involved.

     

     

    I have decided that, unless something is done to show that you are way off the mark (and, I trust you will take no offence if I say I hope you are completely wrong about everything), after this season, I will stop watching Celtic unless and until someone on behalf of Celtic steps up and does the right thing. And if that day never comes….

     

     

    And I know some will say that I am punishing Celtic for the actions of the Sevco and the SPFL. Not so …. if Celtic opposed what is being done and lost that battle (or, possibly, even just came clean and even answered questions ….’what was their involvement with the 5 way agreement’ ), I would likely still support Celtic (certainly, if they actively opposed the cheating, and likely if they came clean, unless they were thick as thieves with the zombies).

     

     

    I expect nothing from the zombies, their fans and the SPFL …. but I do have high (perhaps too high) expectations for Celtic … but Celtic’s silence the last few years feels to me like a betrayal of the core values of Celtic, and most of its fans, including myself.

     

     

    As a child, I followed Celtic because it is was my heritage. But, as an adult, I have stayed a fan because of its history, and what I understood it represented … however, its silence makes me question whether that is still the case. And if it doesn’t, then my key emotional connection with Celtic would be broken.

     

     

    I think the only way things will change is if fans leave Celtic in droves, and DD realizes that the continued silence will impact the bottom line severely in the short term ….

     

     

    In my view, writing letters will not change things. Celtic have had ample opportunities to address matters before now (or at least some of the issues) but seem to have adopted a ‘say nothing and hope it goes away’ attitude. There is no reason why JP Taylor would suddenly now decide to tell all to someone like me….

     

     

    For now, no matter how eye-wateringly bad the football may be, I will savour the last few games this season, as I know they may very well be my last games watching Celtic.

  8. TALLYBHOY on 28TH APRIL 2016 2:58 PM

     

     

    Turkeybhoy never commented on the game on Saturday either.

     

     

     

    Weeminger.

     

     

    Does Neil Lennon’s track record with various ladies, including the use of injunctions pass your discrimination test as being acceptable to manage our club ?

     

     

    HH.

  9. Dear ever angry Turkeybhoy. I think it’s important that cqn is called to account for the propaganda it has espoused which has led to the current disasterous state of affairs at Celtic.

     

     

    And I would prefer the term bugle.

     

     

    Macjay1 didn’t we have that exchange last night? Aren’t you just repeating yourself? I thought that was my domain?

     

     

    Traditionalist see the thing is you just assume I am doing nothing. But I think a wee look in the mirror is required for you. What are you doing? Or is what your doing trying to prop up a failed regime?

  10. Nye Bevans' rebel soldier on

    WHAT IS THE STARS

     

     

    Cheer’s for the info pal,I’m on a rotten run so I’ll

     

    be punting like a married man until my luck changes.

  11. Just to say in any other business a board of directors when faced with this crisis would have at least tried to lead or left. That Lawwell and the spineless boardings are sitting hiding and the chairman nowhere to be seen is perhaps the most cowardly pathetic inaction I have ever seen.

     

     

    And as for cqn, by the day Paul exposes his conflicted sense of loyalty to a disasterous regime. Unwilling to question he should take down the not lazy journalism statement. Cos it’s far worse than that.

  12. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    The Exiled Tim

     

    You may well be right. But if you look at it that way there will NEVER be a good time.

     

    If we had tried to do it in 2012 we would not have beaten Barca.

     

    Getting the likes of Henderson and Nesbitt out on loan to get first-team experience is maybe the way to go.

  13. Philbhoy

     

    Yip, Lennoxtown is a right good training ground for the other scottish clubs.

     

    HH

     

    Macjay

     

    Are you hopeful that the next coach will play the weans, I’m not.

     

    HH

     

    Weeminger

     

    You might see it as a positive, I don’t :-)

     

    I think he had no choice, when you look at the failures that were playing week in week out and no attempt to change it was shocking, esp when we had others who could have done a job given the chance, the likes of Allan, Christie to name but two.

     

    WC said that Allan wasn’t getting a chance cos he kept losing the ball in training, well those who were getting a chance in the game were losing the ball in games and didn’t get dropped, something no right there.

     

    HH

  14. Mike in Toronto, I hope I am wrong too. But I’m old enough now to see the situation for what it is: Celtic have had ample opportunity to protest, officially or unofficially, in private and in public.

     

     

    For all the “behind the scenes” chat it’s clear they haven’t done anything, sadly.

  15. Mike In Toronto,

     

     

    Very heartfelt and well written. I wish I could have written as well as you have, for you have expressed a lot of my feelings.

     

     

    And your comment includes a good counter to those on here that persist in saying that us the customers (for I think that’s how some people at Celtic Park view us) should adhere to their stages of complaining rather than simply withdrawing our custom.

     

     

    Telling your customers that they’re complaining incorrectly is simply making the problem worse. Especially when part of the issue is perceived poor communications.

  16. traditionalist88 on

    Traditionalist see the thing is you just assume I am doing nothing. But I think a wee look in the mirror is required for you. What are you doing? Or is what your doing trying to prop up a failed regime?

     

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    NegAnon

     

     

    Mate if that would be the wrong assumption I am all ears if you wish to enlighten me. Simply walking away and hoping someone else will start a protest just won’t cut it.

     

     

    I think punishing Celtic should be the option of last resort – you jumped straight to last resort without exhausting all other options.

     

     

    What am I doing? I am not jumping the gun. A lot will change on several fronts over the summer.

     

     

    HH

  17. GREENPINATA on 28TH APRIL 2016 3:04 PM

     

     

    Is this the knife threat? If so. no I’m not particularly comfortable with somebody who threatens violence in that way being manager.

     

     

    Is there a distinction between what NL did and outright discriminatory comments to people you’re working with? I think there is, but neither are particularly morally defensible.

  18. With regards to SFA accountability mentioned in previous blog here is a release by The Scottish Football Supporters Association about how the SFA are operating to keep their cosy shop closed.

     

     

    Accountability is why the SFA have avoided answering shareholders and raised the issue in court where, if reports are accurate the case in question was unrelated. (I don’t disbelieve the reports I just haven’t checked)

     

     

    Celtic might and should have done more on Res12 in the best interests of Scottish football never mind Celtic and I’m optimistic that wider decent supporter realisation of the true nature of the Mickey Mouse mob we a allow to govern the game unfettered will push Res12 through to UEFA, but this is how the SFA try to keep the door closed on supporters to the point of gerrymandering their representatives.

     

     

    The SFA out of touch with reality? By Steve McGregor

     

     

    If you scan the SFA website a small by significant press release pops out at you.

     

     

    http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=2565&newsCategoryID=3&newsID=16272

     

     

     

     

    It refers to the fact that the SFA are now funding a fans operation through support for Supporters Direct Scotland who they have employed to deliver a development programme for Supporter Liaison Officers (SLO) in Scotland. Now that is all well on good but it follows on the SFA recently appointing the same organisation to do their annual survey and the even more bizarre appointment of this organisation on to it’s Council where it is meant to represent fans.

     

     

    For all intents and purposes what we are seeing here is the SFA endorsing, paying and facilitating a football business on the pretext that it is properly engaging with fans. This is even more fanciful when you find our that SDS is a branch office of a football business that has its Board in London. I couldn’t see fans in England being happy if the Scottish Football Supporters Association was funded to do some work for the FA in England!

     

     

    So lets look at Supporters Direct in a bit more detail and try and work out just why the SFA want to cozy up to them. The are registered in London with a Board made up of English, Welsh and Rugby League members. They have a Scottish branch office run by a West Ham fan who doesn’t follow Scottish Football and it is an organisation that only represent members of Trusts. So if you are an individual fan or your fans or supporters organisation is not part of it you don’t have a voice.

     

     

    So it is not Scottish, not run by Scottish football fans, is not independent and is representative of only a tiny minority of fans who are Trust members. What it is of course is an organisation that will NOT offer any criticism, evaluation , monitoring or ever hold OUR football authorities to account. That of course makes them fantastic partners for the SFA and a useless toothless operation that will never take fans issues seriously.

     

     

    We as lovers of fitba have seen the shocking Governance of football from FIFA and UEFA and here at home it has hardly been sweetness and joy over the past 5 years. Sadly, the response from Hampden Park is to ignore the only National Fans organisation ,the SFSA ,that I am many others joined over the past year. The organisation has modelled itself on the FSF Football Supporters Association which has a great track record of challenging the football authorities in England. Ironically the SFSA is also a member of Fans Europe where the SLO programme emanates.

     

     

    I joined the SFSA because I felt ignored and undervalued as a football customer and I was delighted to do something about it. It is a sad refection on those who run our game that even when we have a strong albeit young fans organisation backed by thousands they choose to ignore us. It is time the SFA woke up to the fact that we deserve better governance and their efforts to develop an in house fans organisation that they influence /control is just not a credible way forward.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  19. Probably the bookies covering their backsides but Paul Lambert is now favourite with everyone to be next manager, odds on in some cases

  20. mike in toronto on

    always liked Paul Lambert as a manager …mostly because I think sometimes he looks like a young Jock Stein …. not the best reason for hiring a manager I admit … but it seems we have hired some on less … :)

  21. P67

     

     

    It’s never about the talent. That is a myth.

     

    It’s about the intelligent practice.

     

    Read “Bounce” by Matthew Syed.

  22. An Teach Solais on

    AULDHEID@3.24 pm

     

     

    Interesting piece and shows the lengths the SFA will go to in order to cover its tracks. It is time for the charlatans to be exposed and you can hold your head up high for your efforts to bring transparency and equality of treatment to a discredited organisation.

     

    If only the mass of Scottish (and Celtic) supporters were likewise minded instead of leaving it to others. More power to your elbow !! HH

  23. MIKE in TORONTO

     

     

    Ciao!

     

     

    Hope yer well my mhan.

     

     

    It’s been a difficult season watching Celtic it’s true.

     

     

    The Ronny experiment has not been a success, so it’s now on to plan B!

     

     

    Then we have Res 12 and all the guff from the SMSM about ‘them’ being back and the return of the O** F***. Makes me sick to my stomach.

     

     

    But KTF.

     

     

    On another note, been to any gigs recently?

     

     

    Going to the Hydro on 5th June with my daughter to see Neil Young. He’s got a new young backing band – ‘Promise of the real! The guitarist/vocalist is Willie Nelson’s son. But you probably knew that!

     

     

    HH!!

  24. WEEMINGER on 28TH APRIL 2016 3:21 PM

     

     

    Thanks for taking the time to reply.

     

     

    I believe the knife threat was only an allegation.

     

     

    However I always think that many of us do NOT give females equal status and importance. I think some would prefer or find it more acceptable if Malky Mackay had mistreated or tweeted derogatory terms about females.

     

     

    Hail, Hail.

  25. GREENPINATA on 28TH APRIL 2016 3:36 PM

     

     

    You’re right, and it’s a sad state of affairs.

  26. whitedoghunch on

    weeminger

     

    no You’re right who knows why defend yourself if it is nonsense from fools ? who knows ? accused

     

    Your second unlike the one legged paralympian was a big leap.

     

    I suggest waterboarding all prospective employees of Celtic to see their inner workings and quash any fears of recrimination through discrimination later appearing in a persons psyche.

     

    too sore to tango apols

  27. WHITEDOGHUNCH on 28TH APRIL 2016 3:37 PM

     

     

    Can you speak English, most of us don’t understand Orc.

  28. Auldheid

     

    From where I am sitting the sfa seem to be super confident that they are bullet proof and today’s outburst in court was a warning shot.

     

    I do hope it has riled you somewhat :-)

     

    Go get the bastards mi amigo.

     

    HH

  29. mike in toronto on

    Tallybhoy

     

     

    Come stai amico mio?

     

     

    I am not too proud to come back if there is a change later. But for now I dont enjoy Celtic … as Mr. Rotten would say, I feel like I am being cheated. And that just doens’t sit right with me …

     

     

    And speaking of Mr. Rotten … well, music generally

     

     

    In the last few weeks, I saw Ben Harper at Massey Hall … good show, and a great venue!

     

     

    Angela Hewitt ..playing Bach with the TSO … just beautiful I am only learning about classical .. but really loving it!

     

     

    Terrence Blanchard was here, but missed him (although I have seen him before)… I have recently starting playing the trumpet, so to hear someone as good as him is lovely…

     

     

    And I have tickets to see Gregory Porter and Wynton Marsalis in a few weeks …. two of my favourites ….sadly they are both on the same night, so wont make both. but either will be great!

     

     

    and just got tickets to see Emmanuel Ax playing in a small concert hall later this year. excited about that!

     

     

    So, quite excited over all….

     

     

    Just got the new Trashcan Sinatras album …. really liking it. Highly recommend it to anyone who likes shimmering, wistful, lush, melodic beautiful pop music … they are touring the US at the moment, but not coming to Canada. I know at least a couple of the Sinatras are tims (including Eddie Reader’s brother), so, Sinatras, if you are reading … shame on you for not coming to Canada! :)

  30. johann murdoch on

    New manager win ratios

     

    I had a look around to see win ratio stats of some of the alleged candidates for our new manager.The win ratios below are their best they achieved.

     

    I would qualify these by saying the time periods they achieved these are quite variable.Make of them what you will.

     

     

    ROBERTO DI MATTEO 57.14%-CHELSEA -MARCH 2012-NOV 2012*

     

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    BRENDAN RODGERS 51.2%-LIVERPOOL-2012-2015

     

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    PAUL LAMBERT 49.3%-NORWICH-2009-2012

     

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    DAVID MOYES 54.9%-51 GAMES IN CHARGE OF MAN UTD

     

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    MALKY MACKAY 43.2%-CARDIFF CITY 2011-2013

     

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    ROY KEANE 42% SUNDERLAND 2006-2008

     

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    ANDRE VILLAS BOAS-PORTO-84.48%!!! OMG !!…JUNE 2010-JUNE 2011

     

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    I ll post Owen Coyles later!

     

    *Roberto Di Matteo achieved win ratio of 42% over longer period with Schalke but won the big cup during his tenure at Chelsea.AVB dropped his standards recently with Zenit only managing 62.64%!! from 2014 till now

     

    AVB is 1.75m tall.

     

    He will do for me thanks.

     

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  31. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Did Neil Lennon take out an injunction ?

     

    does anyone know why ?

     

    if he had not does anyone think he would have been treated fairly by the meeja ?

     

    innocent till proven guilty unless the meeja say otherwise, innit.

  32. mike in toronto on

    WDH

     

     

    How are you keeping, pal?

     

     

    I will be honest, Ihaven’t tried Edulis … it had kind of fallen off my radar … but I am hoping to have occasion for a nice dinner shortly, so you have given me a very good idea. Much, much appreciated. Thanks, pal!

  33. antipodean red on

    An Teach Solais,

     

     

    I commend Auldheid, Canman, Morrisey and BRTH for their incredible work on Res 12 and beyond. Ultimately, the people who run our club and those who run the other 38 legitimate clubs have the power to remove the charlatans who have for several years sullied our great game. That no one was prepared to step up to replace Ogilvie as president speaks volumes. The dogs in the street knew that he was compromised yet they all stood back and let him be re-elected unopposed?

     

    These bastards treat us with completes disdain because they have been allowed to by our administrators, until complete change occurs at club level and people who are fit for purpose at both club level and association level are employed on a merit based structure, very little is likely to change.

     

    Fans at all clubs need to push for it but recent events show clearly that the incumbent scum will not move over easily, the incumbent scum being those at SFA and SPFL level.

  34. GreeninbingleyinOslo on

    Lennybhoy

     

     

    If you are still around, further to our early morning posts about Dublin and snow, I can confirm there are at least 4 pubs snug and warm.

     

    Madigans, Mulligans, McDaids and Davy Byrnes.

     

    Still freezing outside though. Now going to attepmp to board a plane to Adjacent Foreign Nation.

     

    This could go one of two ways.

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