The SFA Judicial Panel which disciplined Rangers two weeks ago was independent of the SFA. Tonight’s appellate panel was also independent but as I was reminded tonight, there’s independent and there’s ‘independent’.
Celtic Quick News has cast its share of aspersions in the direction of the SFA in recent years but even President What-school-did-you-go-to? could not spike what appears to be well established processes.
The consequences from tonight’s decision by the SFA appellant panel will run deep for Stewart Regan, and I suspect life would be easier for him if a more accommodating verdict was returned, but the structure he created delivered what he promised. Justice, without fear or favour. Credit where due.
You and I have a responsibility to start rebuilding trust, and Scottish football, from here. Don’t wallow in past times, or a in an old victim mentality. Tomorrow belongs to you and your neighbours who support Aberdeen, Dundee United, Hibs, St Mirren, Motherwell and many others. Make sure you enjoy that future and are not consumed by past torments.
Rangers is a former football club. They played their last game on Sunday 13 May 2012 at Perth.
We’ve been predicting this for months, and if you think the revelations and shocks are over, think again. Empires will crumble, oceans will dry and galaxies will collide next week. The surface has only been scratched.
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I dont think sally making stupid threats was an issue, it never has before, what made the difference this time, is his threats were reported properly nationally.
jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on 16 May, 2012 at 23:53 said:
Wee Oscar NUMBER 1 cqn bhoy
Hail Hail
One rocket on FF urging they take the Sion route as the only way to get a fair trial!! Takes more than a few posts before someone points out Sion got hammered and are currently in a relegation play-off
Paul67,isn’t it fitting that the Huns played thier last game ‘down under’..Perth..
Evening All
Doing the launderette shift as the wee bhoy has spewed all over the bedrooms.
may as well have a can
THE EXILED TIM on 16 May, 2012 at 23:52 said:
“goat man”?
Thought your mountain was hun free?
I honestly do believe ghuys and ghals that had they got away with this then they’d have had carte blanche to get away with everything else they could in Scotland.
Think about this:
With the ban for a year standing they must now HOPE for liquidation as it will not stand (unless I am mistaken) and what a choice – hope for liquidation to get a new team while losing every player who wishes to leave from the current squad for nowt and your history along with it
OR
somehow get their desired CVA minus European football for at least two years) which will allow the players to do their on the cheap walking away act while blaming the SFA and getting little flack.
Look at their choices again:
SPL with a team of kids and McCulloch
OR
Division 3 with a team of kids plus McCulloch and any leftovers from Rangers oldco.
Choice one means a beating on a regular basis in the league, little chance of top six and humilation
Choice two means newco, loss of history and the humiliation in division 3
For us it is win win either way.
The braindead rangers fans will now demand division 3 to “punish” Scottish football and when this happens all the myths about SKY TV contracts and the SPL needs them will vanish.
This is the best thing to happen to our game in decades
AND then there is:
FTT
Hector
Ticketus
Double contracts
AND of course
stripping of titles for more than a decade of cheating.
Celtic will overnight become the most successful club in the world statistically (something that will kill them even more because their only come back to 1967 was all their titles won under false pretenses as we will shortly discover , hopefully) and we can “welcome the chase” forever if they liquidate.
They now say they’ll appeal AGAIN and they are talking about the court of arbitration for sport and going to FIFA –
PLEASE DO.
I’d LOVE their industrial cheating to be aired EVERYWHERE. If TWO, yes TWO Judges find them guilty TWICE they have NO appeal and we all remember Sion and how their appeals got on.
The level of delusion is SO high and the screaming baby without the dummy routine is so cringe-worthy I really hope they do appeal and lose AGAIN. COAFS will take quite a while. Do they have the cash or the time?
They cannot accept their cheating this season – God knows what they will be like when the rest of it comes out.
Karma is real.
Believe.
HH
B-)
Jandy Sardine says that rankers fans are bitter.
bourne
Belter -ha!!
gordybhoy64
Whatever the outcome, and I think Paul suggested that the Marc Daly prog next week would be mind blowing, I can only get exited to a degree.
Corpse mutilation will only take us so far down the line.
It’s new hun club that we need to focus on.
If the Daly prog throws up something new, that will be for the courts to decide, but I doubt I will ever see the real culprits in the dock.
We can only kill the huns once, mores the feckin pity.
Sandy, Alistair, Mark, Gordon, Campbell, David, John, D&P
Why don’t you just trying saying “Sorry”.
Bill will be turning in his grave.
TET
A summer of confrontation – legality of being allowed to play (somewhere?) – pending court cases this Autumn – Hector ruling – distinct possibility they won’t kick a ball in earnest till August 2013.
Jandy Sardine, spokesman for the Rangers Fans Fighting Fund, added: “Rangers supporters will be shocked and bitterly disappointed by this decision and will find it hard to take that the club has been so heavily punished for the actions of individuals.”
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An indivdual who owned the club
A board of directors who didnt blow the whistle.
A group of people in other positions in the SFA who had enjoyed the benefits of EBTs.
Ex managers , players and staff who enjoyed EBT’s
Ra people who continued to sing bigoted and racists songs while throwing poor unofortunates into fountains and pissing against national memorials.
aye, the action of one individual.
its all of yeese.
giruy
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bournesouprecipe, what big hoose?!!
SFTB, excitement getting the better of me. Thanks.
notafanofSoAL :-)
gordybhoy64, I wasn’t actually referring to either.
coorslad, true. Just for Kano!
Exiled Tim, let’s see next week.
Paranoid Tim here but can following happen :-
They lose 12mth signing appeal
They are found guilty of double contracts
they lose BTC appeal
They liquidate and reform as new club and gain entry to SPL and lose all previous sanctions applied to oldclub?
They start next season as newclub in SPL with no sanctions and no debt?
I agree newclub and ‘them’ is an oxymoron, to use a popular phrase tonight, and ‘ they’ will have no morals (which is nothing new to ‘them’ so no real punishment ) but just have a bad taste in the mouth that if above plays out we will have been well and truly ‘done’.
“Sandy Jardine, spokesman for the Rangers Fans Fighting Fund, added: “Rangers supporters will be shocked and bitterly disappointed by this decision and will find it hard to take that the Club has been so heavily punished for the actions of individuals”
He got the bitter bit right.
controversial
I’d sign Mcgreggor .. for peanuts – win win.
He could be great..or we sell him for a major profit
Tonight when “I should lay me down to sleep” I will be such a happy man I may just stay in bed till next season.
H H
Oh Oh Oh
Paul 67
THE SURFACE HAS ONLY BEEN SCRATCHED. SUPERB.
Following our up and coming weeks of fun do you think league
re-organisation will be mooted for the newco to spend less time out
of the SPL if the full extent of cheating causes more club chairmen
to do a Petrie.
TET,
not looking to do gardening :o)
just a bit of space between me and the world about 3 acres.
water source most important though.
Shallow Shallow not happy,
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Interesting (!) turn of events. I was convinced the appeal would be upheld.
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hampden should be busy on saturday eh ………………
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And so it begins.
**** the sfa. See you on Saturday.
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arseholes. the lot of them.
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Time to turn up on saturday in thousands then??
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why am i surprised..?
I am so f****** angry right now
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disaster in every sense of the word
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Another protest?
I was not confident at all about this.
I also question whether it might have an impact on the takeover.
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Time to to take them to court.
Unbelievable.
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Did anyone think they would back down? Regan is in post for one reason only.
Time for the court of arbitration. We are not being treated in accordance with other clubs who have gone into administration. An open and shut case outside of a banana republic.
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We have to take this further. All the way to CAS.
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Ah well the game in this country is now ***ed.
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I had a feeling that this’d be the case.
Absolute shambles of an organisation.
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Its not on the BBC site, not doubting but I really thought they would half the sanctions…………..it seems only TLB gets successful appeals.
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Havin a girafe. Wis hope for a 6 month on condtion of paying football debts. Regans that much of a puppet that when he smiles you can see the time on liewels watch.
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Arseholes in a kangaroo court. Court of arbitration here we come.
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I think we have to plan our next legal move very carefully yet with all the aggression we can muster.
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absolutely disgraceful
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Time to get serious. The last march was only the start you bastards.
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Take them to court and stop Scottish teams playing in Europe.
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Just been on BBC. No sign of it. Just scaremongering.
Q. Is it true that if a national association is being taken to court none of their representatives can play in uefa competitionsuntil it’s sorted? If true, a RFC appeal could keep the other Scottish teams from competing.
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This is war.
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Need to fight this all the way. They really are a corrupt bunch.
Boycott all away games and refuse to let any players at any level represent Scotland
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Pull out of the Scottish cup right now and tell them to gtf if they want to use Ibrox for euro 2020.
All this does is hand a pishy Celtic side the title next season nothing more.
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We need to keep our players now and win this f*****g league
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take them to court just like they fenian b******s
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Thats the reason behind fat Peter’s silence, he knew
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They really do want us dead
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The last two comments are belters……..Zimmerman.
macanbheatha
Nothing wrong with good Catholic goats mi amigo.
Just like everything else them feckers have robbed everything form us, never an origional thought in their puff.
hun free goat curry, superb :>)))
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Kevtic on 16 May, 2012 at 23:58 said:
Sandy, Alistair, Mark, Gordon, Campbell, David, John, D&P
Why don’t you just trying saying “Sorry”.
Bill will be turning in his grave.
Bill would push them overboard and take their position
and still deafening silence from the Celtic board,back of the bus,soup taking,forelock tugging board.
SMILEY FACE TO SHOW EVERYONE I AM JOKING
Paul67 you have an annoying habit of posting a new article just as i am posting an infrequent article on the previous thread. Coincidence or do you have me under electronic survelience? Are You Moonbeams in disguise?
What developments can we expect next week? Something do do with Mark Daly’s doc?
I’ve long held the belief that they would find a way to wriggle out of this.
I am now seeing only doom & with next weeks revelations to come, oblivion may not be so far fetched after all. :)
Hail Hail!
zimmerman on 17 May, 2012 at 00:02 said:
keep ’em coming ;-)
Paul67
I like your message – time for Scottish football to return to its roots – for Scottish boys to be able to dream of winning the Scottish Cup playing for their local team
Would be interested to hear your thoughts on how you think Celtic should move forward in this fairer new world
VertWolf
Why the SFA CAN give them a transfer ban:
Following an investigation into alleged rule breaches by Rangers, and a subsequent hearing by a judicial panel, the Scottish FA imposed a registration embargo and fine on the club on Monday night.
In total, Rangers were found guilty of breaching five counts of the governing body’s disciplinary rules, with one further allegation returning a ‘not proven’ verdict.
It is the breach of rule 66, and the punishment which ensued, which has caused the most consternation amongst the club’s support. For bringing the game into disrepute, the tribunal imposed a £100,000 fine and a ban on registering new players over the age of 18 for the next 12 months.
The decision to prohibit Rangers from signing new players was immediately called into question by commentators with reference to the Scottish FA’s Judicial Panel Protocol, which came into force at the start of the season.
The protocol, which is publicly available to view, outlines a scale of suggested punishments for each breach of the rules. In the case of rule 66, the sanctions available include a maximum fine of £100,000, suspension or expulsion from the game, ejection from the Scottish Cup and/or termination of membership.
With that in mind, the question was immediately raised. How did the panel arrive at the decision to ban Rangers from signing players for the next year when it is not a readily apparent punishment within the scale of sanctions?
The answer is contained within the tribunal’s published determination and made reference to articles 94.1 and 95 of the Scottish FA’s Articles of Association, which relate to the permitted penalties for any infringement of the rules.
Rule 94.1 refers to the powers of the judicial panel, stating it “shall be the sole judge” when a club “in any way brings the game into disrepute or any other grounds it considers sufficient”.
Interpreting that article, the Scottish FA essentially has the power to call a club before the judicial panel for any reason it wishes, even if a specific rule hasn’t been breached.
Rule 95 then provides a mechanism for an indepedent tribunal to impose any sanction it wishes outwith the guidelines set down by the Judical Panel Protocol, leading to the decision to hit Rangers with a registration embargo.
It states: “The Judicial Panel shall have the jurisdiction, subject to the terms of the Judicial Panel Protocol, to deal with any alleged infringement of any provision of these articles.
“A… club… if found to have infringed the articles shall be liable to censure or to a fine or to a suspension or to an expulsion from the Challenge Cup [Scottish Cup] Competition, to any combination of these penalties or such other penalty, condition or sanction as the Judicial Panel considers appropriate, including such other sanctions as are contained within the Judicial Panel Protocol, in order to deal justly with the case in question.”
It is also important to note that the scale of sanctions which are detailed serve to any tribunal only as a suggested framework for punishments. As we have already seen this season with the verdict on disciplinary charges against Celtic manager Neil Lennon and Hearts boss Paulo Sergio, the scale of sanctions shouldn’t be treated as fixed eventualities.
A tribunal has the flexibility, using the framework, to impose a penalty as it sees fit. So where one rule may say the “lower end” punishment should be a ban of three games, it is perfectly acceptable for a two-match suspension to be imposed.
Additionally, as we now know, the tribunal can impose any other sanction it sees fit where there has been a breach of the Articles of Association. It is not possible, however, to exceed the maximum sanction outlined.
The independent panel, then, has acted within the parameters of the Scottish FA’s rulebook to deliver their sanctions upon Rangers. An appeal is permitted within three days of correspondence on the decision being reached, which would be heard by an Appellate Tribunal.
This tribunal has the power to either “affirm the decision of the appealed tribunal”, uphold the appeal, uphold the appeal in part, substitute the appealed determination for a breach of a different rule, order a lesser sanction, refer the case back to the original tribunal or, keeping in the spirit of other rules, use its discretion to take whatever action it deems appropriate to “deal justly with the case in question”.
There you have it – the panel can give them ANY sanction it sees fit.
Bye Bye rangers.
A Queens council and one of her majesty’s judges. Kick them where it hurts.
Oh
The
Iron
On
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Was Gazza at Hampden?
Huns on RM advocating a boycott of Greaves Sports, you know where to buy your sports gear this weekend!
Sounds like the #$¥> is about hit the fan!
Dual contracts? =loss of honours=compensation claims from teams whom were relegated etc =compensation claims from European teams whom suffered defeat and loss of earnings v thems in euro competition due to inelligible players participating ….
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaassive can of worms about to be opened
The Spirit of Arthur Lee on 16 May, 2012 at 23:56 said:
Evening All
Doing the launderette shift as the wee bhoy has spewed all over the bedrooms.
may as well have a can
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Oh the memories, my two now at uni just about to graduate but seems like yesterday was cleaning up my youngests sick and washing the rug……….oh wait…….:)
Is Gatuso only 18?