Loved Dave King’s statement, absolutely loved it, as Kevin Keegan would say. On the positive side for Newco fans, “Rangers” beat Celtic 2-1 on the mention count. Well done, Dave, excellent result.
In short, Our New Hero confirmed five points:
The manager he appointed in 2015, Mark Warburton, was an improvement on Ally – I’ll tell the fans anything for money – McCoist, but he was not good enough when up against top-flight clubs.
He didn’t get a resignation from Warburton and his management team. There are now two club statements out there earnestly trying to convince you otherwise, but both are clear on the subject – there was no resignation.
They have burned £18m in less than two years to get into this mess.
“Our realistic expectation [for this season] was to come second”.
There will be jam tomorrow.
Warburton and his management team were sacked in the most dignified manner conceivable: informed by a journalist who read they were out of a job on the club web site.
Let the sacking sink in for a moment. Management were informed they were sacked by a journo who read an article on a web site! Years from now no one will believe such a thing could happen.
Who behaves like this? Sacking someone is never pleasant, but if you don’t have the cahonas to do the job in person, get out of the employer business. You have to wonder where their moral compass is.
The club appear to have acted after it became clear Warburton & Co. were not getting the Nottingham Forest gig and there would be no chance of a compensation payment heading to Glasgow. Forest didn’t buy the soiled merchandise, there’s no resignation letter nor even a meeting where a verbal resignation could have taken place. Not a concern if they don’t remain in business long enough for the legal process to run its course, though.
I’m pleased King made the financial facts clear: this is what overinvestment looks like at Ibrox. £18m shovelled into the furnace already, and there’s a good chance pushing that figure up to £30m will not be enough (according to King).
What “enough” is, is the question.
Their realistic expectation was to come second! Less of this “Going for 55” nonsense, please, you’re “Going for second place”, we all know it. There is no shame in this, the cold fact is that Celtic are out of reach.
Going for second place is a high watermark from now on. Pushing the £18m up to £30m or more will do nothing more than make the battle with Aberdeen and Hearts more interesting.
This season alone Celtic will earn £50m more than any other Scottish club. £30m, £50m, £70m over three or more years will still not bridge the gap at the top.
Then, when the last of these loans are made, the unpleasant business of reigning costs back to breakeven point will take place. What you didn’t read in King’s statement was any awareness that football clubs have to pay the piper. Financial responsibility is a foreign language.
Given his past football directorship, you’d think……..
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Et tu Waghorn
Generally speaking, I prefer it when our support are singing pro-Celtic stuff or lovely song such as `Grace` but I did enjoy the outbreak of The Huns are going Bust` on Saturday 0:-))
JJ
Blog broke between 7 and 8??? Blame MWD at 6:57 – naw, I agree with JNP at 8:08, so many good, happy, positive posts reflecting such good times.
Anyhoo… DavidO…Someone having pun over on Phil’s site. Wouldn’t be you by any chance:
The Great Ibrox Bake-Off
February 12, 2017 at 12:51 pm
Warburton had no option – whatever way you slice it. It’s clear Sevco had run out of dough – and even though Mark had proved himself, he just couldn’t rise to the challenge. And he wouldn’t butter the bosses up.
But everything was spread too thin. There was No meat in the sandwich. Margarine – not butter.
It goes against the grain to say it, but he demonstrated he just wasn’t oven-ready – but then – he was up against the flour of Scotland’s fitba teams.
If he’d used his loaf, he’d have had more buns in his ovens, and wouldn’t just roll over.
But his players were a pretty bad batch – some of them too fond of crumpet – and others always on the batter. Some were brown, some were white – but most were shite.
It wasn’t just the (world-class) breakfast – it was the whole meal they overindulged in -and far too many pies – or so Bridie tells me.
In the end King put his gas at a peep – and it all fell flat for Warbs. They just didn’t knead him anymore. He knew he was toast – pan bread – yeast-erday’s man – with bread-knife in his back.
Now he’s scone.
Whit a shower o’ Paris Buns.
But don’t flap Jack – I suspect the Warbs will make a meal of it in the next court diet.
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RS consistent once more. They are blithely reporting “Warburton’s resignation”.
Good morning from a bright and crisp Somerset.
Happy St Huno’s Day ;-)
This day in history:
690 St Huno died
2012 huns announced they had a terminal illness.
According to a comment on Phil`s site ( Alfie Birches) the SFA had underwritten Baron`s contract so that the bold Joey could join Burnley.
What exactly does that mean and why would the SFA have done it?
JJ
Parkheadcumsalford
I lisrened to a Chris Sutton /Creagan (SP) thingy on Youtube and last night and the pundits were equally enthusiastic in their criticism of Warburton.
It`s just like the `Rangers are Dead` then a week later `Oh , no they`re not!` saga.
` Warburton is Great` quickly followed by ` Oh, no he`s not!`
…..and people think they can think for themselves !!
JJ
Good morning CQN
Went to see still game on Friday night brill
But should have went to the biggest show in town across the Clyde
What a joke ha ha
Keep them laughs coming sore sides
Great result on Saturday fantastic weekend all round
Hail Hail
Mt
Gooooood Morning CQN – and a happy St Huno’s day :-) ( courtesy of Pogmathonyahun)
JNP – I’m sure at school you were taught about Helen of Troy, and not that HT’s better side Helen Of Croy:-))
Incidentally Scaniel that was very good :-)
Right off ooot
Hail Hail
If anyone replies to my 8:53 enquiry, I will read/give thanks later.
Cheerio for now,
JJ
Oooft. That’s them telt :)))))))
HH
“Default Rangers fans are playing a blinder..but their loyalty is self-defeating…
…says Bill Leckie.
All I can say is, how you stand for the mess that club has become is way beyond most of us.
YOUR fully-fledged, true blue Rangers fan is amongst the most unshakeably loyal creatures on earth.It’s just a pity that loyalty is as blind as Stevie Wonder with a lead-lined paper bag on his head.
They’re like the guy whose mates tell him from day one of a relationship that she’s no good, she’s a gold-digger, she’s putting it about behind his back, but he would rather square go the lot of them than admit he’s besotted with a wrong ‘un.
Then one day it all falls apart, she disappears with his brother and he’s left sitting on the floor of a living room with no furniture, the credit card company battering at his door and an unbearable itch in his pants.
Again.
Not that I’m suggesting this latest messy Ibrox break-up is all the fault of those fans. Course it isn’t.
All I’m saying is that by forever being more desperate to give two fingers to the outside world than they are to point one at the glaring issues within their own walls, they’ve enabled those in charge to screw them over for the umpteenth time.
Personally, I don’t give a toss whether Dave King and his goons succeed, fail or float forever on a beige cloud of mediocrity.I don’t care whether Mark Warburton had a magic hat or exploding underpants.
But I do care about football fans — no matter who they support and even despite how unpleasantly that support too often manifests itself — having their lifelong devotion used against them as a means of silencing any form of protest.
At Charlton Athletic, Blackburn Rovers, Coventry City and Blackpool, punters have had enough of this passive-aggression torture.
They’ve had enough of financing rank-rotten regimes. So they stay away. They ask rival fans to stay away. They use the media to raise awareness of just how bad their exiled, don’t-give-a-damn owners are, not just for their own clubs, but for the game itself.
But your Rangers fan? He just rings up a phone-in and shouts about history and culture and 54 titles and how WeArraPeepel.
He creates a caricature of himself and turns a serious problem at an endangered sporting institution into a national joke.
In truth, I tired long ago of writing about all this, because it got a bit like shouting up to a guy on the tenth floor of a blazing building that he needs to get the hell out and him shouting back:
“DON’T TELL ME THIS BUILDING’S BURNING! YOU DON’T KNOW ABOUT THIS BUILDING, THIS IS OUR BUILDING, IT’S A HISTORIC BUILDING AND YOU’LL NEVER BE FIT TO BURN IN IT!”
What can you do about an attitude like that? Knowing even if they escape and the building isn’t too badly damaged, they’ll be too proud to get the smoke detectors checked so the place doesn’t catch fire again?
They got burned under David Murray, they got burned under Craig Whyte, they got burned under Charles Green and now they’re getting burned under King.
They refused to see the smoke signals until it was too late when Ally McCoist was in charge and they refused to see them when Warburton was plainly toiling.
Who knows, maybe they go back to their boozers and tear his signing policies to bits, maybe they go home and kick Albertz the dog up and down the garden, but — and here’s the crux — what those in charge can always rely on is that they’ll always come back and they’ll always stump up their cash and they’ll always, always sing No Surrender so the world knows there’s nothing to see here, please disperse.
Except the world DOES know something’s wrong, very wrong. The world can see that without the amazing numbers who kept turning up in League Two, League One and The Ramsdens Cup and who now still turn up despite seeing their greatest rivals disappear over the horizon on a golden team bus, Rangers would be nothing. Dead. Gone.
The money handed over by those ever-loyal hordes allowed Whyte, Green and McCoist to make an almighty rick of getting back up through the divisions and it has allowed King and Warburton to put together a gang of overpaid, overvalued, underachieving mercenaries in the top flight.
See the link there, Bluenoses? Without your money, your £800,000 at the gate every other Saturday plus pies and programmes and whatever else — even with the THREAT of those fortunes drying up — none of these imposters could have operated.
If only you knew the power you had. It’s greater than just about any other major club, because if Man U or Liverpool or Arsenal fans stayed away they’d still have their £100million a skull from Sky and they could market themselves up new pretendy fans.
But you don’t get it. You think strength comes from roaring defiance at everyone outside Govan, from constantly reminding everyone Whit Ye Ur and what you stand for.
Well all I can say is, how you stand for the mess that club has become is way beyond most of us.
I mean, Barton? Senderos? Hill? Kiernan? Kranjcar? Who’s kidding who? Between them, they’ll have soaked up the first 4,000 admission fees every week.
That money was meant to get Rangers off their knees, give them a future, not to build a time machine back to the era of idiotic spending that brought them down in the first place.
Truth is, with a squad full of guys who have no re-sale value and whose best years are long behind them, Rangers have turned back into everything they were under David Murray, except a Poundland version.
And if anyone is daft enough to argue the toss about that, think on this.
Moussa Dembele cost Celtic £500,000, has scored 26 goals in 40 and is now valued at £40million, a fortune they can afford to turn down.
Joe Garner cost £1.8million, has three in 15 and might make the next gaffer £500,000 back if he cuts his losses.
That’s it. That’s the story, right there. Forget all your boardroom politics and management double-talk, that’s the bottom line.
Mark Warburton, on the advice of his scout Frank McParland, did that deal and Dave King let him.
While Celtic were signing assets, Rangers were stockpiling liabilities.
So Warburton can moan all he likes about not having the support of the board and King can bitch all he likes about the manager wasting “his” money, but they were in it together and they cocked things up together.
If Rangers fans didn’t see that coming, then they deserve all they get. If they did see it coming but chose to ignore it…well, I refer you to the previous sentence.
Now please assemble at the usual points while emergency services deal with the situation. This is not a drill.
HOT SMOKED on 13TH FEBRUARY 2017 8:53 AM
‘According to a comment on Phil`s site ( Alfie Birches) the SFA had underwritten Baron`s contract so that the bold Joey could join Burnley.’
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That was suggested at the time.
The SFA were supposed to have agreed that Barton would have first dibs (or should it be dobs?) on any money they were due to pay the huns if they (the huns) weren’t paying him what they had agreed.
If true, it was a clear admission from the SFA that they knew then there was a real risk the huns were about to go bust.
Cowiebhoy.
Brilliant. :-)))
Was it your birthday the other day?
If so I hope you had a blast.
Hail Hail.
I hope Bill Leckie’s house has CCTV ……
Don’t often give Bill Leckie any credence but he has got it spot on this morning!
KTF
Chris on Radio Scotland phone-in about how to police/monitor anti-gay chanting at football giving it laldy about they can’t even stop being up to their knees in fenian blood. Well done that man, and well done to Kaye Adams for not knocking him off.
…….oh dear, they’re just about to bring on Kris Boyd for his views. Aff oot to do the donkeys!
(Gay Celtic season ticket holder just said he’s never heard any such anti-gay nonsense at Paradise) Right, definitely aff oot noo.
There’s been some right good stuff on here and on the pitch lately,but nothing better than this.
MOONBEAMSWD on 13TH FEBRUARY 2017 6:24 AM
If the previous tweet I posted snnoyed the ahit out of me then this one just made me smile.
@BarbaraMcMahon8: Hoopy finally in the washing machine For a full make over….”Daddy, I will just sit here so he can see me in Case… https://t.co/UpqsOvzKeC
MWD
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Right down to what the wee man is wearing,watching,and sitting in!
My friends in Celtic,
Some excellent posts last night. I also believe that it’s a joy to watch Celtic. I have always bought into the thinking that football must be entertaining. IMO Celtic are arguably the most entertaining and best team to watch in the U.K.Good times indeed.
Where I disagree is that this Celtic team must be open to all. No exceptions. If not who decides who is eligible to be part of the Celtic family.?
Why should socialism get a ready endorsement. The principles of socialism are admirable, but it must be applicable to 2017 not 1917.
Can business owners be true socialists, can better off people be true socialists, can professional people be true socialists. Many would answer no. The lifestyle is not compatible with true socialism. Yes the great Generals of socialism, like Eagles , Castro came from privileged lifestyles. We know that, but the Champagne Socialists who preach one thing, but act another are a complete turn off to the ordinary person.
To get back to the point: who decides and who vets who qualifies for the Celtic family.?
No my friends, supporting Celtic must be open to all.
HH.
LIKENOOTHER
I reckon he has put his rag on the FF banned list!
About time he started writing proper stufff again. Once,he was pretty good at it.
Engels not Eagles.
HOT SMOKED on 13TH FEBRUARY 2017 8:53 AM
‘According to a comment on Phil`s site ( Alfie Birches) the SFA had underwritten Baron`s contract so that the bold Joey could join Burnley.’
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Can I refer you to the SFAs Memorandum of Association which allows the SFA to honour club/association member debts at their own discretion.
Greenpinta
As an extreme (example is not the right word but I can’t think of the right one right now) that is never likely to happen, how about a Hun took to supporting Celtic bought a seat right next to you and stated singing the Billy Boys every week with his Celtic tam my and scarf on while nazi saluting and handing you SDL league leaflets and started making attacks on club for not bringing the troops in on Armed Forces day.
MWD
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The biggest story on the blog last night being what to we call HamiltonTim now???
Croybhoy? That had a nice ring to it
The Quiet man CSC
BT
I like TrustThim meeself
MWD
GREENPINATA
I agree with you that Celtic should be open to all. Why anyone should wish to dispute that is beyond me.
Put yer colours on,support the team,I don’t care whether you’re on yer knees in life or high-flying with the Masters of the Universe. I sure as hell don’t give a monkeys who you vote for.
Think about it,when we score,dancing for joy,hugging all and sundry nearby-I so hope that’s not just me-I don’t ask for a union card or owt. Celtic fan,celebrating,just like me.
The blog has people of all views and none,some stronger than others. Again,as in life. And again,some will express those views more often and more strongly than others.
I’ve conversed on here with MACJAY from Day One of joining in 8 years ago. I soon realised that some of his opinions were simply not mine,but he expressed them with candour and reason.
For he is a reasonable man.
He’s a long way away from a hater. He simply has views about immigration which are different from many on here,and different from those which are fashionable elsewhere too.
I finally had that drink with him just over a year ago,as did many of us. I found him to be pretty much as I’d hoped he would be.
A smashing bloke.
Bloody Tory,but a smashing bloke. Not the first from here I could say that about.
HH
BMCUWP
Irefer you to my reply to Greenpinata. This guy just bought a season book next to you too! :@-)))
MWD
MWD,
Ha you have taken an example from “One flew over the Cuckoos nest” Obviously I would inform the authorities and he would be returned to his secure unit.
The point remains , who decides who meets the criteria of belonging to the Celtic family. ?
HH.
MOONBEAMSWD
And I refer you to the bit about being a Celtic supporter.
He would soon be pretty noticeable as not being one. Wee difference between wearing a scarf and being a Celtic supporter.
Part of which is the self-policing part. The “Haw you,behave. Remember who you represent!”
It’s great times to be a Tim. Superb football on Saturday, even at 4-0 up we played with the same intensity and commitment. Haven’t seen Celtic play like that in such a long time.
Bill Leckies’ piece also reinforces our dominance, it would be great if Aberdeen, Hearts and others would consolidate and marginalise Soft Loans Co. to where they belong.
HamiltonTim: well said last night.
Ma dug’s called Engels….
So Greenpinata, forgetting the obvious obfuscating both your answers are NO this gentleman would not be welcome if he were a Celtic fan.
MWD
MWD,
It would be sooooooooooo blatantly obvious he was not a Celtic fan or even a neutral. He would just be a delusional troublemaker.
However his grandchildren may be .
HH.
http://www.celticfc.net/news/12080
BT
:)
What about …from last night .
Helenoftroystoybhoyfromcroy.. mibbe no :)
Marspapa
That could work ;-)
Deciding who qualifies to be a member of the Celtic family is a very dangerous road to travel.
What school did you go to ?
What do your parents work at. ?
What is your salary ?
What political allegiances do you or your family have ?
What stamps are on your passport?
Not the Celtic I wish to see.
. No selection, equality for all.
HH.
Moonbeams
No even The Green Man could have came up with such a scenario !! :))