In a press conference today, Legia major shareholder, Dariusz Mioduski, has been scathing about Celtic, who benefited from Legia’s mistake last week. Perhaps his most important comment was, “The football family of Legia are all suffering now. Their dreams are shattered, it’s against football values”.
There can be no doubt that Legia are suffering and that their punishment was in no way proportional to their mistake. Some of this hurt is inevitably going to find its way to Celtic, who Legia apparently asked to withdraw from the tournament before the Disciplinary Committee sat. Celtic, Legia inform us, declined to respond. My understanding is that the rules do not allow for input from the losing team when a suspended player has been involved – as they do when an ineligible player is involved.
Former Juventus-great and current chief of the Polish FA Zibi Boniek had earlier said, “Everyone thoroughly looked into this matter, but Michel Platini and Giorgio Marchetti [from Uefa]said one thing, ‘Zibi, there is no backdoor. Nothing. Regulations do not provide for any other penalty. We are very sorry’.”
If there was a possibility Celtic could choose to forgo their place in favour of Legia, Celtic would be presented with a moral dilemma, but I don’t think the club’s actions would be any different. Their reluctance to ‘pick up the phone’ to Legia suggest as much.
One area where Mioduski’s information differs from Celtic’s is where he states “No-one at UEFA in Nyon was even considering a 3-0 forfeit Celtic win on the morning of the ruling.” I understand Celtic were told the exact opposite, that a forfeit was the only outcome possible, corroborating what Platini and Marchetti told Boniek.
Our very best wishes to Fraser Forster, who yesterday became a Southampton player. Southampton have an enormous rebuilding exercise ahead after selling the majority of their first team players this summer. They now have a good keeper, who I expect will be busy in the opening months of the season.
After my article yesterday on Fraser Forster’s dedication to his work, a CQN’er sent me this nugget:
“My brother used to go to the dancing with Jinky. He would go to Jinky’s to collect him and Jimmy would be all suited up, apart from wearing his sand shoes, as he would be practicing his dribbling while waiting to be picked up”.
There are no shortcuts to brilliance.
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Our supposed nearest challengers beaten 0-3 at home by Dundee Utd.
Big cup winners
True enough. Just thinking about games I will be able to go to see.
Hopefully even more.
garygillespieshamstring. Is it not a minimum of eight European games 2 against Maribor and 6 in the Europa League ? assuming we dont progress in the CL. H.H.
Actually, Tiny Tim, what you said was “it is the right thing to do.” (Playing Legia again)
That is the bit that most found issue with.
HH
Hearing Jason Steel as well as Tonev
BSR
5 in a row loser to Celtic Baldy Berg knows the masonic workings of the SMSM. Beginning to really despise Legia. My family are from Gdansk, which is Green & White. :)
Just heard that Campbell Ogilvie and his cohorts are about to ride to Celtic’s rescue.
Aye, we’ll be awe right noo!
So we wull.
Had a good bet on DU beat the sheepies at 23/10,a
good day all round.
Legia going public is an obvious attempt to twist Celtic’s arm. We played by the rules. We’ve done nothing wrong and should be left out of this.
Ps article 34 seems very vague and somewhat open in scope. I’m not sure that could accommodate a one off game between us – the rules of CL qualification refer to 2 legged ties. Does article 34 overwrite the entire UEFA rule book !? I think not.
roy croppie
Wait til Cap’n Beefheart sees that score………..I was tipping the sheep to worry us this season !
My daughter sent me a text saying that Legia sent their letter to Celtic online because their secretary would have forgotten to put a stamp on if he had mailed it.
ulysses mcghee. Who is Jason Steel ? H.H.
Bourne
Still trying to figure out how you ‘hide’ from a phone, but especially an ‘e-mail’ or heaven forfend ‘e-mails’??????
How much did United take in from the player sales.
Boro keeper
Jason Steel is a goalkeeper!!!!!
tricoloured ribbon
16:33 on 10 August, 2014
Tanner,the Cardigan and McCann.
Ye couldn’t have picked a better 3 in the Sky studio to witness the Hearts winner.
Yes you could have…
Me, I would have rubbed it right intae them
Spot on with this comment:
kikinthenakas
16:37 on 10 August, 2014
Re Legia…shame but they got it wrong not us.
In golf in you don’t sign your card or put a score in incorrectly you’re oot the competition…nae discussion…the way it should be.
Kikinthenakas
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Legia Throwin’ Their “SHOP-LIFTED RATTLE”……
Oota The PRAM….!!!!
Away Tae ‘MUMSNET’…Lewacki Smiecius..!!
Happy As Larry….
(If He Wiz Canin’ GCT…)
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Sadies bhoy p–s off,swearing is nothing ,something absolutely worse is all the seperatists
posting political vote yes rubbish on here
23 year old – interesting buy if true.
Time for those at Legia who made a mess of it to hold their hands up and take what criticism is due to them from their own fans.
Their mistake .
Have they even appealed?
As from my reading of it there is no point in even trying as the rule is perfectly clear.
Sadies bhoy p–s off,swearing is nothing ,something absolutely worse is all the seperatists
posting political vote yes rubbish on here xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Pleased that Paul67 has highlighted the disproportionate penalty and raised the moral question. I was taken aback slightly by the initial euphoria. I found the situation rather embarrassing. I doubt that UEFA are happy with their ruling but they would be quite wrong to amend their rules retrospectively. Nonetheless, if they don’t like their own rules then it’s time to change them to prevent this happening again.
I floated the idea that we had the opportunity to take a bold stance in the name of sporting integrity that was largely greeted with derision. However, the time for that has maybe now passed. The moral pressure being applied by Legia today leaves a sour taste. It’s not our fight, and any moves we might make to assist Legia should be voluntary. We should not be dragged through the mud for not being martyrs. The whole business only highlights the corruptible nature of big money in the game.
Pragmatic about the Forster deal. 4 years was decent service. He’s earned his move. The price is right. The time is right. The most pleasing aspect is that his replacement is already in place (for a change). This is the one deal we could afford to do this summer without necessarily weakening the team. Gentlemen goalies…the gloves are on!
ger57
16:54 on 10 August, 2014
My daughter sent me a text saying that Legia sent their letter to Celtic online because their secretary would have forgotten to put a stamp on if he had mailed it.
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Steele
All Celtic have to say is that it is a matter for UEFA and, as always, they will abide by their rules and regulations. Simple.
I genuinely feel sympathy for Legia. However, they should be skewering their secretary instead of trying to drag Celtic into their mess. Their are enough Celtic haters out there stirring the pot,for god sake accept our good fortune and move on. Hail Hail.
Jason Steele………
Oh forgot to add – ” let’s all laugh at Sevco” :-)
Jason steel?
Was he not with department S?
Naw, that was Jason king.
Peter wyngarde csc
darwins
‘something absolutely worse is all the seperatists…’
Ermm… Something absolutely worse is…
Top of my head? Your Grammar?
Oh! That reminds me, something absolutely worse is the Grammar Police on here…
See what I did there?
U
Catman
You about ?
A couple of the names you posted last night are beginning to circulate on twitter.
Back from a recent holiday to the states and went into a Nike store or even a shop ,to get some hoops stuff for the wee gingers and nothing on the shelves and this wasn’t the first time ,if you are from Brazil plenty of stuff but nothing for us . Needless to say the Adidas gear was in all their sjpos
Rules are supposed to be implemented consistently and without favour. That’s exactly what UEFA have done. End of story.
There was no discretion here, no assessment of severity, impact or sporting advantage. The penalty for breaking the rule was clear. UEFA imposed it.
It may be a shame for the players, coaching staff and fans of Legia that their administration let them down. But perhaps they should focus their anger on whoever within their management structure was supposed to ensure that players and suspensions were registered and implemented correctly.
Sjpos /shops
Can I Have Raspberry tries to suppress his delight in sky sports studio..
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FtD4mn9CeH4/hqdefault.jpg
voguepunter
16:43 on 10 August, 2014
Glad to see that mate but is that an old photo it being black and white, just saying…:)
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!