Legia frustration spills onto Celtic

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In a press conference today, Legia major shareholder, Dariusz Mioduski, has been scathing about Celtic, who benefited from Legia’s mistake last week.  Perhaps his most important comment was, “The football family of Legia are all suffering now.  Their dreams are shattered, it’s against football values”.

There can be no doubt that Legia are suffering and that their punishment was in no way proportional to their mistake.  Some of this hurt is inevitably going to find its way to Celtic, who Legia apparently asked to withdraw from the tournament before the Disciplinary Committee sat.  Celtic, Legia inform us, declined to respond.  My understanding is that the rules do not allow for input from the losing team when a suspended player has been involved – as they do when an ineligible player is involved.

Former Juventus-great and current chief of the Polish FA Zibi Boniek had earlier said, “Everyone thoroughly looked into this matter, but Michel Platini and Giorgio Marchetti [from Uefa]said one thing, ‘Zibi, there is no backdoor.  Nothing.  Regulations do not provide for any other penalty.  We are very sorry’.”

If there was a possibility Celtic could choose to forgo their place in favour of Legia, Celtic would be presented with a moral dilemma, but I don’t think the club’s actions would be any different.  Their reluctance to ‘pick up the phone’ to Legia suggest as much.

One area where Mioduski’s information differs from Celtic’s is where he states “No-one at UEFA in Nyon was even considering a 3-0 forfeit Celtic win on the morning of the ruling.”  I understand Celtic were told the exact opposite, that a forfeit was the only outcome possible, corroborating what Platini and Marchetti told Boniek.

Our very best wishes to Fraser Forster, who yesterday became a Southampton player.  Southampton have an enormous rebuilding exercise ahead after selling the majority of their first team players this summer.  They now have a good keeper, who I expect will be busy in the opening months of the season.

After my article yesterday on Fraser Forster’s dedication to his work, a CQN’er sent me this nugget:

“My brother used to go to the dancing with Jinky.  He would go to Jinky’s to collect him and Jimmy would be all suited up, apart from wearing his sand shoes, as he would be practicing his dribbling while waiting to be picked up”.

There are no shortcuts to brilliance.

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  1. The Green Man 12:29 on 10 August, 2014

     

     

    If it wasnt for people asking questions, and being quite rightly critical of plc inadequacy.

     

    We would still be run by the Kelly/White dynasties.

     

    Shhhh

     

    Dont rock the boat.

     

    Back of the bus.

     

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    RWE 13:32 on 10 August, 2014

     

     

    The green man

     

    Celtic were not a PLC back in 1994.

     

    The bank called them out not us.

     

    Without Fergus the mess would have continued for years.

     

    Dermot Desmond gave Fergus 4 million to pay the bank.

     

    We protested but we were powerless without all of the above.

     

    The then owners of Celtic did not sell because of the fans, rebels or otherwise

     

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    The Green Man 13:36 on 10 August, 2014

     

    Rwe

     

     

    Old board..new board.

     

    Same old bs imo.

     

    The high and mighty know whats best.

     

    Same old story.

     

    Shameless gravy train

     

    Sell big..keep the money…replace with dross.

     

    Yawn

     

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    The green man

     

     

    The above three interactions speak for themselves and if anything actually make it clear that the only person engaging in closed mind, blinkered thinking is – yourself.

     

     

    You accused another poster of rationalizing failure (EK Bhoy I think).

     

     

    Whether you know it or not you are the only person rationalizing failure today. Others are trying to understand where the club are/and going and discuss it.

     

    For you failure is all about corporate/plc/board maladministration, and you will not accept that any other suggestion from any source has any merit.

     

     

    I really hope your day improves. As any attempt to meaningfully engage with you has proven to be very obviously pointless – my day will improve – as I can scroll past you with a clear conscience.

     

     

    Angryattheworldorsmallmansyndrome CSC

     

     

    HH

  2. stephenpollock on

    Paul67 in football a penalty is a penalty – and Legia conceded a big one. Its difficult to manage the PR of this – take the kick and keep low is all we can do.

  3. I don’t know if Celtic could have done anything differently on this issue.

     

     

    If they could have ,IMHO ,they should have.

     

     

    It is Legia’s own fault ,but this was a great opportunity for Celtic to live up to the tag of “a club like no other.”

     

     

    I feel that we have inadvertently besmirched our name.

     

     

    TT

  4. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    Jam Tarts ya bass.

     

    Tims,some of whom may ,as we speak,be on CQN,are hereby permitted to celebrate.

  5. My goodness Macjay you don’t even know you are being a hypocrit. Are you saying I am gay??? Dearie dearie me.

  6. TinyTim

     

     

    14:42 on 10 August, 2014

     

     

     

    Celtic can’t override or subvert UEFA’s disciplinary procedures.

     

     

    The idea is a nonsense.

  7. Feeling a wee bit left out of CQN at the moment….just can’t seem to get the desired

     

    amount of angst and depression right…..hopefully when I hear more stories of real hardship

     

    around Scotland and the World at large I’ll get my mojo back.HH

  8. Not that should ever bet on Sevco at the beginning of match but you are allowed to lay your initial bet against them to allow for Scottish referees.

  9. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    Legia Warsaw offer us a play off with the winner going through hard luck Legia thanks to your goodselves we are already through and we dont need a play off as you are out. H.H.

  10. If Legia attempted to contact Celtic there’s every chance some silly soul forgot to put the +44 at the start

  11. tommytwiststommyturns on

    JtT – McGhee has been substituted, but his replacement got booked for a stupid tackle. No way the visitors will end this game with 11 men!

     

     

    T4

  12. If Celtic were to do ‘the hounourable thing’ who would really care?

     

     

    Most people iv spoken to dont even remember what happened with Sion

     

     

    In a few months this will also be forgotten about

  13. So the sympathy I had on Friday for Legia has now disappeared.

     

    They can ‘ get it right up them ‘

     

    If PL had any sense he should rub their noses right in it by bidding for their striker.

     

    Sorry, that was silly of me, we don’t appear to buy players these days!

  14. Just popped in to wish big FF all the best however ah did skim past a few pages and had a genuine laugh out loud moment when I saw neganons post at 11.57 calling another posters comments tiresome, anyhoo off to a wee caltonian pub to meet some fellow tims, none of whom walk about with their own wee personal raincloud hovering above their frank zappas.enjoy your day CQNrs

     

    HH

  15. martim1980

     

     

    14:45 on 10 August, 2014

     

    21-5-79 lay it now I’d suggest, Sevco are @ 5/1 draw is 2/1

     

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    It’s in a treble wae Aberdeen & Wolves.

  16. TinyTim

     

     

    I don’t know if Celtic could have done anything differently on this issue.

     

     

    If they could have ,IMHO ,they should have.

     

     

    It is Legia’s own fault ,but this was a great opportunity for Celtic to live up to the tag of “a club like no other.”

     

    I feel that we have inadvertently besmirched our name.

     

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    don’t believe despite what the Legia say, that Celtic can reject the CL place.

     

     

    If that was possible then you’d open yourself up to having the big clubs paying smaller clubs for their places in CL groups etc.

  17. martybhoy59

     

     

    I agree it has its downsides, but imagine we had put good money upfront for Muku, Lassad and others? We’d be stuck with them all. Tho I’m not sure we ever gave them all a decent chance.

     

     

    I tend to think of our loans as more try before you buy instead of borrowing another team’s player

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