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  1. Celtic Mac on

    celtic40me

     

     

    Which begs the question….

     

    What did they Romanians ever dae for us?

     

     

    CzechMateCSC

  3. ernie lynch on

    CELTIC40ME on 6TH MARCH 2022 8:48 PM

     

     

    A penalty involves kicking a ball a set distance to hit a set target. That’s where the muscle memory comes in.

  4. David17 on

    Would be interesting to see stats on success rate of penalties when drawing or losing v 2 or 3 goals up. Pressure forces mistakes in most sports. Having said that the one thing that gets me is missing the target. If you arent confident you can hit the corner with accuracy it has to be a smash down the middle.

  5. PeteTheBeat on

    All these people who say penalty taking is easy have never taken one against a keeper who’s 6 ft 5 or so with longer arms as well.

     

     

    And who has studied every one you’ve taken in the last few years.

     

     

    And has his own specialised coach.

  7. Celtic Mac on

    And what if ye suffer fae short term memory loss?

     

    An furgoat where ye hit the last wan?

     

     

    memoriesrmadeothiscsc

  8. PeteTheBeat on

    While I’m on, another thing about penalty shoot outs is that the first team to miss one, often goes onto win.

     

     

    It’s like that the miss takes the pressure off the subsequent kickers in that they’re not the only person to blame if they lose.

     

     

    Conversely, it piles the anxiety onto the opposing side – if they miss, they’ve blown the win.

     

     

    Celtic against Spartak was a perfect example – I think Naka missed first.

  9. fanadpatriot on

    Pete the beat

     

    The bigger the keeper the easier it is to beat him with a low ball .Fact

  10. Celtic Mac on

    inquitousiv

     

     

    Nah, don’t remember that ever happening….

     

    Remember beating them 2-0 at Parkhead in December 2019 though….

  11. celtic40me on

    ERNIE LYNCH on 6TH MARCH 2022 8:55 PM

     

    CELTIC40ME on 6TH MARCH 2022 8:48 PM

     

     

     

    A penalty involves kicking a ball a set distance to hit a set target.

     

     

     

    That covers every time someone kicks a football.

     

    Perhaps you’re suggesting that kicking a football specifically 12 yards involves some sort of muscle memory that isn’t learned over the course of years of training to kick the ball many different distances, 12 yards included in the desired direction

     

     

    I think the muscle memory is there

     

     

    The difference is pressure, which can’t be practiced. Unless they get sent to the cupboard.

  12. celtic40me on

    It’s not like 12yards is the specific distance anyway. They aren’t kicking it to stop on the line

  13. winningemmell on

    PARKTHEBUS

     

     

    You are on the money.

     

     

    I follow Celtic home and away but have never seen Newco and it looks like I never will.

     

     

    Celtic plc is complicit in the biggest lie in sport.

     

     

    WG

  14. ernie lynch on

    CELTIC40ME on 6TH MARCH 2022 9:10 PM

     

     

    Muscle memory relates to performing a specific task. It’s not a general thing.

  15. fanadpatriot on

    Honestly the art of penalties is in the mind

     

    Head down ,eyes on the ball ,then hit it .

     

    The mind games is the problem,

     

    Ask GrahamAlexander I think he is now Motherwell manager ,I don’t think he missed one though I may be wrong

  16. fanadpatriot on

    SorryGraham Alexander did misssome ,I must be thinking of someone else 🤷🏻‍♂️

  18. MadraRua on

    I believe taking a penalty is a matter of muscle memory and an exercise in dealing with pressure.

     

    Constant repetitive taking of penalties,

     

    Shooting into different parts of the goal, creates both muscle memory and confidence.

     

    Many years ago I read about Italian players spending hours per week, after normal training, practising nothing but penalties and free kicks.

     

    Not having 7 or 8 players at the top of their game, when taking penalties, can be the difference between progressing in a cup competition or not. As in any professional sport, the less you have to leave to chance, the better.

  19. celtic40me on

    ERNIE LYNCH on 6TH MARCH 2022 9:15 PM

     

    CELTIC40ME on 6TH MARCH 2022 9:10 PM

     

     

     

    Muscle memory relates to performing a specific task. It’s not a general thing.

     

     

    Quite. In this case it’s the specific task of kicking a football in the desired direction with the desired force. Something which Calmac would have done enough times before now to have the muscle memory.

     

     

    The only difference is the change in situation, not the action of kicking.

     

     

    I can understand the argument fir practicing free kicks, it’s a specific skill which needs different mechanics to a “normal” shot or pass. But not a penalty. Pass it in, smash it down the middle, high into the roof, all part of the same movements used everyday as a pro footballer.

  20. corkcelt on

    When all you Mentalists have figured out how not to miss a Penalty maybe ye can advise me on how not to miss a 3ft putt.

  21. MadraRua on

    CORKCELT on 6TH MARCH 2022 9:51 PM.

     

    Thats called a Denis Wise putt.

     

    A nasty little 3 footer.

  22. celtic40me on

    Ernie

     

     

    In your expert opinion how long would it take to build the penalty taking muscle memory?

  23. tonyrome on

    Hi Bhoys

     

     

    How can it be muscle memory taking penalties not every penalty is hit in the same direction with the same force with the same size obstacle in the way or said obstacles movements. Tke Tommy Gemmells penalties almost all hit with a lot of power then contrast with Jossips recent panenka how are they the same penalties. Even the rules for the obstacles (goalkeepers) are different now. Not looking for a debate just can’t see how it could be down to muscle memory with so many variables involved.

     

     

    By the way great performance from the bhoys today. Who says Ange doesn’t know how to mix up our playing style. Loved the hunting in packs and snapping into tackles. We should fight fire with fire more often.

     

     

    KEEP THE FAITH

  24. ernie lynch on

    CORKCELT on 6TH MARCH 2022 9:51 PM

     

    ‘When all you Mentalists have figured out how not to miss a Penalty maybe ye can advise me on how not to miss a 3ft putt.’

     

     

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    Follow Gary Player’s advice.

  25. BelmontBrian on

    Evening all.

     

     

    Brilliant result today, I believe Ange has put this ‘ Livi hoodoo’ to bed.

     

    I’ll admit when I seen the starting line up, I was, well, concerned and that is why. I’m not a football manager.

     

    No more excuses of ‘the plastic pitch (that the SMSM like to remind of us, we BATTERED them.

     

    MOTM for me was ‘Big Tam’

     

     

    Nite all

     

     

    Please pray for the people of Ukraine and pray for peace.

     

     

    Brian

  26. ernie lynch on

    TONYROME on 6TH MARCH 2022 10:02 PM

     

     

    Variables?

     

     

    The weather.

     

     

    The keeper.

     

     

    Everything else is a constant.

  27. ernie lynch on

    CELTIC40ME on 6TH MARCH 2022 9:58 PM

     

     

    I suppose it would depend on the individual.

     

     

    Or you could just leave it to chance. I mean it’s not like it’s important or anything.

     

     

    Yeah, that’s it, don’t bother practising. Just wing it.

  29. fanadpatriot on

    Taking a penalty or taking a putt is the same thing ,it’s what you do is the difference .

  31. EKBhoy on

    Maybe you could practice penalties with one of those virtual reality goggles on ( like on the gardening programmes) to make it more real with a crowd with various settings for the grounds you were due to visit , etc etc … maybe better than the goggles wee Calum had on today

  32. fourstonecoppi on

    I read CCV is being touted in some quarters for POTY……from me 100%

     

    sign him now!

     

    As soon as he came on the pitch i knew this ghuy wis a player. Just the way when Big Vic Wanyama came….ye knew ye just knew.

  34. celtic40me on

    ERNIE LYNCH on 6TH MARCH 2022 10:10 PM

     

    CELTIC40ME on 6TH MARCH 2022 9:58 PM

     

     

    I suppose it would depend on the individual.

     

     

    In what way? Who would you say would take how long?

     

     

    Nobody is talking about “winging it”. Not practicing penalties hardly qualifies as leaving things completely to chance.

  35. ernie lynch on

    CELTIC40ME on 6TH MARCH 2022 10:38 PM

     

     

    Is there a valid reason not to practise taking penalties?

  36. Timbhoy163 on

    Why is it every time Celtic win a game comfortably that hun mob over in Pacific Quay roll in 2 Huns 3 actually ,to say nothing positive about our result

  37. Burnley78 on

    Loved every minute of it today. Even the half hour queue to get into the stadium.

     

     

    The crowd were good and well behind the team. The energy was great between both.

     

     

    At the game it felt Walsh and officials favoured the home team and their physical approach. It seems the BBC and Sky saw it differently.

     

     

    That aside it was a really great day to be a Celtic supporter. The strength of the bench plus Julian and Kyogo and Turnbull shows how good a place we are at.

     

     

    2 nicely spaced out games in 4 weeks before Ibrox should see us in great condition for what should be a title winning game.

     

     

    6 points ahead with 6 games to go after that and the goal difference advantage should have even the biggest bedwetters on here relaxing a bit.

  38. Burnley78 on

    Saint Stivs

     

     

    Brilliant re Shane warne autobiography.

     

     

    Love the Carling and Monster munch before the biggest day of his sporting life.

  40. celtic40me on

    ERNIE LYNCH on 6TH MARCH 2022 10:51 PM

     

    CELTIC40ME on 6TH MARCH 2022 10:38 PM

     

     

     

    Is there a valid reason not to practise taking penalties?

     

     

    Of course there is. Bad practice achieves nothing, but wastes time and energy, it can even make things worse

     

     

    All you’re doing is suggesting practicing what every pro has done all day every day throughout their career. Without trying to recreate the pressure, it’s pointless

     

     

    Answer my question. How long would it take for a pro footballer to learn the muscle memory necessary to make a penalty a certain goal (as you’ve said should be possible for any pro?)

     

     

    How many in the penalty team will have to stay back after training for how long? 5 players, 8? The whole team in case of shootouts? Does the whole team have to build the muscle memory to ensure we’re ready for shootouts, or do we just “wing it”

     

     

    Will it fade?

     

     

    Muscle memory always struck me as a bit of pseudo-science, but I’m interested to know from someone who knows how it would work

  42. ernie lynch on

    CELTIC40ME on 6TH MARCH 2022 11:12 PM

     

     

    ‘Muscle memory always struck me as a bit of pseudo-science’

     

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    Aye, OK then.

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