BDO’s survey of British football clubs suggests control, if not complete sanity, has descended on Scottish football. Most Premiership clubs surveyed predicted they would return to profitability over the next year.
On the back of Phil Mac Giolla Bhain’s article on former Scottish Football League chief exec David Longmuir’s bonuses, which are no longer payable, these are heady days for some clubs who have lived hand-to-mouth stuffing pork into Longmuir’s trough. You better believe it’s financial Armageddon, for the former SFL man. The SFA will surely insist on inappropriate financial stain is left on our game.
Anyway………. It seems if I explain the structural gap between Rangers International’s earnings through season ticket sales and the costs of operating a football club which can facilitate circa 40,000 spectators on a regular basis, we can all figure why the gap cannot be bridged. We are different because despite having enormously higher football costs, we can access enormously higher revenue streams.
On the other hand, explaining that Celtic’s operational costs need to be augmented by player sales and/or Champions League income, just to break even, and that player sales and/or Champions League income cannot exclusively be used for player purchases, amounts to a heresy against deeply held orthodox views.
Add in a reminder about the strategy which has made all the difference to Celtic – buying wisely, selling wisely, and sit back to watch a secular belief structure ignore the ‘every penny to be spent’ prediction and vent as though their deity has just been denied.
This stuff’s complicated, apparently, but paying attention to financial detail is not a required Obligation to support Celtic, so if it doesn’t float your boat, I’d start by demanding to know where all the Seville money went to….
I hear the Daily Record accompanied their – Imran Ahmad to sue Rangers International for £3.4m – story with a completely baseless story about Celtic losing out on the only transfer target they know about. They were wrong on some of the Ahmad story (Charles Green may have produced the documents Ahmad would rely on in court, but suggestions they are in concert on this claim are wildly inappropriate). Still, it plays into current orthodoxy on Charles Green.
Going on what they’ve written, they know nothing about Celtic’s transfer negotiations either. Absolutely squat. Percentage of Celtic fans who know the media’s game: 100%. Percentage of Celtic fans who allow themselves to be influenced despite knowing the above……?
If these people have you panicking, look elsewhere for sympathy. We have a team building strategy, it has delivered well thus far and it will continue to do so. Buy wisely, sell wisely, spend every penny over a given business cycle. Pretty straightforward, really.
Magic Money Deity Denier CSC.
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Today is the feast of St Maximilian Kolbe, a Polish Franciscan who volunteered to take the place of a stranger and died at Auschwitz.
– in his earlier life:
Kolbe was sent to Kraków in 1912, and later that same year to the house of studies of the Order in Rome, where he studied philosophy, theology, mathematics and physics. He earned a doctorate in philosophy in 1915 at the Pontifical Gregorian University, and a doctorate in theology in 1919 at the Pontifical University of St. Bonaventure.
During his time as a student, he witnessed vehement demonstrations against Popes St. Pius X and Benedict XV in Rome during an anniversary celebration by the Freemasons. According to Kolbe,
They placed the black standard of the “Giordano Brunisti” under the windows of the Vatican. On this standard the archangel, St. Michael, was depicted lying under the feet of the triumphant Lucifer. At the same time, countless pamphlets were distributed to the people in which the Holy Father (i.e., the Pope) was attacked shamefully
‘Kolbe was inspired to organize the Militia Immaculata, or Army of Mary, to work for conversion of sinners and enemies of the Catholic Church, specifically the Freemasons, through the intercession of the Virgin Mary. So serious was Kolbe about this goal that he added to the Miraculous Medal prayer:
‘Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee. And for all those who do not have recourse to thee; especially the Masons and all those recommended to thee’
-lifted from Wii/EWLM/EWTB
Masons?
Ggggrrrrrrrr.
hey you Masons- lea
winning captains:
How could you possibly quantify that question?
Delaneys Dunky
Nicky “quadruple” Law was born in Nottingham…
mea culpa @ 10.11
would you commend the MSM for having the same good grace to keep their silence too
IMO it smacks of hypocisy for us to slag off the MSM for ignoring the revelations from Charlotte and phil and co, when our club (apparently) holds the same silence
It has been said that those who ignore the shennaigans are in effect condoning them
I agree that is the case with the MSM
I just struggle to undertsand why our club are silent on all of this
It looks like the gist of your case is that, if Celtic say something about it the sevconians will be angry, well i think they will be angry and will probably use their hatred of all things celtic to unite them.
It has often looked as though it is just a matter of time before the sevconians are in the SPL and challenging for CL money. You might argue that when they get there, their cheating may be even more brazen than the huns ever were and will be aided and abetted by a fitba authorities who have been outed but have rode the storm out and are now free to act as they please, because other parties are afraid
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Estadio..
To Charge..When Errrmmm..Some Numpty has tried to fix the Charger Docking station and Totally Fecked it Proper..:-(
Summa
Actually having given it a wee bit of thought maybe Celtic are being silent because the last time they threatened to take legal advice Jabba wiped the floor with them.
Remember?
From a Celtic perspective I was sorry to see Billy Stark mimic Neil Lennon’s use of Tony Watt on the left wing. I can’t for the life of me see what he’s learning by being played there. Any coaches enlighten me?
Summa of Sammi…. 11:11
You’ll have to tell me some time….
EN
winning captains
11:14 on 14 August, 2013
As a matter of interest is there an example of us desperately needing to sign a player for a certain position – say centre forward – actually signing a player, him playing in the game in question and it being a success ie he scores the winner or something?
Maybe before the window was brought in. (Can’t think of one now though).
Tallybhoy @ 10 43
” Italy v Argentina tonight ”
Read something online re the likelihood of the stadium being half full .
Read something online re Juve players being insulted / jeered outside the team hotel [ Lazio / Roma fans allegedly ]
Hear that De Rossi has ruffled a few feathers by stating ——
” Italy is 20 years behind Germany and Spain “
estadio – i understand nerves before games esp one of this much importance, and believe me after the ross county game and elfsborg i wasn’t feeling great. as i say the team defo needs strengthening but we will get through this round i am positive and then we get players in on out terms. why over spend and give higher wages to players just because of some nerves regards a playoff which we will sail through. a lot of people criticise PL for not splashing the cash. sometimes i think he has a better placed faith in out team than his critics do. once this playoff is over we will bring in a striker i am confident of that.
I meant derby game against Dynamo Bucarest.
I don’t know if they can appeal?
Possibly, they would need to consult with Rangers, how to prepare efficient appeal.
Dontbrattbakkinanger
08:34 on 14 August, 2013
Is the P.Lawell, the perfidious bete verte of FolloFollo, any relation to the P.Lawell whose plethora of deficiencies are regularly torn to shreds on here?
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DBBIA,
When his own side & his enemies are both certain that PL is getting it all wrong, then the chances are that he is doing most things right.
We are lucky that the man who calls the shots for Celtic ‘treats these two impostors just the same.’
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Mea Culpa 10.11,
Good bit of sensible thinking. ‘ Be still & know…..’
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Twists nTurns 8.56,
Lovely wee morality tale.
We have to be smarter than those who would bully & cheat us.
CQN has got its sensible head on today.
SUMMA
It must be great knowing that your posts are famed for being so off-the-wall that nobody batted an eyelid when you mentioned dogging!
You can get an adaptor for the docking station.
Buncha ripoff merchants-got the same problem.
How many games did the new huns win, last season, playing against ten men?
The more things change….
Does Roy Hodgson know that Nicky “A Trailist” Law is English?
Surely a call up is imminent?
Starry Plough
Didnae think he had a Govan accent and why is he no in the English squad?
He is after all the best thing since Gazza. :-)
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winning captains
11:14 on
14 August, 2013
As a matter of interest is there an example of us desperately needing to sign a player for a certain position – say centre forward – actually signing a player, him playing in the game in question and it being a success ie he scores the winner or something?
If we Did Not sign Samaras in the January Window l don’t think we would have pulled beck the 12 Point Deficit..That Season..and Won the League..
Also if we Had SIGNED Naka in time for The Artmedia Game we would have Won the Tie..
2 Example of Dragging your Heels and Not Dragging them..
Simples..
Summa
Summa
a Stor….,
Jabba wiped the floor with them, and we’re being told we are in safe hands :o)
I am looking forward to the last few days of the transfer window – especially if we get back into the CL group stage we are likely to see some decent additions.
We are in a re-building phase. The core of the team assembled from 2010-11 have moved on, with some of the pieces still in situ who we need to keep (e.g. Forster, Mulgrew, Brown, Izzy, Ledley, Kayal, Sameras).
However – that team started to be built on SPL football and eventually “graduated” to the Europa League and then the Champions League. The team that is to be re-built over 2013-14 will start from either the Europa League or (as most of us anticipate) the Champions League. That is progression.
We all know that we need some additions to the squad if we are in the CL or otherwise. So do the board and so do the football staff. We are in rude financial health (despite Paul 67 trying to keep a lid on it) and are in a position to keep progressing.
When the team we are about to build is broken up in 2-3 seasons time. I anticipate we will start building the new team on guaranteed Champions League football and we will not think twice about spending £5m on a player….
That is our plan, it relies on buying for value, scouting well and selling at a vast profit. Let’s stick to that plan a la Porto….
I cannot understand all the negativity at the moment. Victor Wanyama and Gary Hooper both wanted to leave Celtic, I repeat WANTED to leave, Celtic did not force them out. The truth of the matter is that Celtic could not make any form of offer that would have kept both players at Celtic. Both players chose to leave.
Finding replacements is not a matter of picking up a catalogue and ordering what you need. As for the “just pay it ffs” line what happens when this player immediately becomes our top earner without having kicked a ball and the other squad members, who it should not be forgotten have just won a Double, ask for the same or better in light of their proven abilities. Do Celtic “just pay it ffs” to them all or do we have 1 happy player and 24 disgruntled players.
I have no information one way or the other about Celtics transfer policy but am prepared to accept that they are trying to address areas Neil Lennon wishes to strenghen. If anyone can provide proof, not speculation or innuendo, that Peter Lawwell or the board are deliberately withholding funds from Neil Lennon then I will apologise to them.
The stunning silence from the Board on shadier aspects of the Scottish game merely gives grist to mills of the ‘Old Firm’ idea.
In the ole doggin’ circles frequented by the likes of Summa ‘batting an eyelid’ is regarded as a difficult skill to master.
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BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
11:23 on
14 August, 2013
SUMMA
It must be great knowing that your posts are famed for being so off-the-wall that nobody batted an eyelid when you mentioned dogging!
Ha..
l just Ken l have Never been Called a Excellent CQNer..:-)
but l will Keep Dogging Away..One day Mibbees..
Summa
Listening to Talksport yesterday I was annoyed at their smugness..
Never knew it was so biased.
Talking about the state of Scottish football Celtic were slated for not trying to get an all Scottish line up as in 67 as a reason why Scottish football is in such a bad state.
Mentioned all the good players leave Scotland and can only get a job at a championship club.
They must know their stuff right?
Said that SFA should insist that Scottish clubs have a max number of foreign players in the first team.
How blind they seem to be about their so called all English Premier League where managers from all over the world come and go spending millions on foreign players to try and get success, only to be trumped time and time again by a Scotsman at Man U.
Biggest contradiction for me was after blaming Celtic for not blooding their youngsters and instead looking for cheap signing abroad,they went on to mention Islam Feruz being the real deal at Chelsea.
Moved to London and then went to Scotland and then Chelsea.
As I say I never knew it was so biased.
I do now.
good morning cqn
no new striker……emmmmm
not in panic mode here……..yet
then again karagandy have scored 7 goals so far in c/l
3 away from home
takes me away back to when mon played basel
parkhead had about 30000 fans at kick off
basel scored 2 mins at start of game
then the other 30000 turned up from the pub/work
all thinking celtic were 1 nil up
after hernrik got us back level
took henrik,sutton and sylla to take a 3-1 lead to basel
then got beat 2-0 away
imho most people underestimated basel ability to beat us over 2 games
celtic do not have the top rated strikers that we had then
this whole season is being risked on these 2 games
heaven to forbid we are put out
the way the club is being run having to sell players to break even
according to some accountants and all because some teams went bust
ffs
the club have known since june what dates were set for the qualification rounds
wanyama……gone
hooper………..gone
wilson…………gone
thats what is so frustrating
that and watch that elfsborg game in sweden on a plastic pitch
now off to karagandy next week to a plastic pitch
next week we will see how well the new bhoys will have done
and how well the foward planning and set up has been done over the last 3 months
like so many other we just what the club in the top club competition in europe
its where we belong and need to be setting out to be
jam67
It is a matter of conjecture as to whether or not Celtic helped ease Victor and Gary out the door.
Have you heard about closing Bayern or Chelsea stadium for pyro?
youtube.com/watch?v=n49-f4jvmpE
youtube.com/watch?v=NA-LZN1kQ2I
Have you heard about closing Juventus Torino stadium for pyro?
youtube.com/watch?v=Q89-4Dn3rz0
Have you heard about closing Napoli stadium for pyro?
youtube.com/watch?v=q0PyLhErAbY
Have you heard about closing Lille stadium for piro?
youtube.com/watch?v=7hSnaZD0tmk
Have you heard about closing Arsenal stadium for pyro?
youtube.com/watch?v=gojgfaB_Ykw
craig whites optometrist
im not sure how we can be certain that strikers will dearer or cheaper after we play the kardagians, i dont really see the obvious connection.
but for me if we have lost a 30 goals a season striker we should try to get another one in to replace him, and sooner the better because he can play in more games
Minceyheidman
11:33 on
14 August, 2013
Listening to Talksport yesterday I was annoyed at their smugness..
Never knew it was so biased.
Where have you been then?
quonno
Canada.
Kilbowie Kelt
Sitting in the Kilbowie kafe at the moment, enjoying a latte n roll n skwerr :-)
Craigwhytes…,
You also have the flip side of your argument, if we qualify clubs and player will stick on a wee addition knowing you are coming into money win loose or draw
canamalar1,
I did qualify it by saying, even if it waspossible, the backlash would be cosiderable.
For this reason, I feel your campaign is flawed by yourplan to commit theclub to an action, bearing in mind that you said it was a risk you were prepared to take.
I admire your courage in taking a risk, on behalf of the club.
Someone posted yesterday about Jackson Irvine having signed for Kilmarnock on loan. Could someone point me in the direction of an (official) announcement of this? Last I read was that this was being considerd last week but Neil Lennon said at the weekend that this was now being re-considered.
P67 has indicated Celtic have kept quiet as they didn’t want to be the ones held responsible for the downfall of orcs. & SFA(not in those words) as we would be made out to be the big bad club
Turnbull Hutton should have been backed by everyone in Scottish football.
Zbyszek – Legia have to fight this, as UEFA are trying to make an example of a “smaller” european club. They wouldn’t dare take on one of the really big clubs and the Italian ultras have been doing this stuff for decades.
Unfortunately, UEFA is just as corrupt as the football association in this country. If they weren’t, then they would have severely censured the SFA for allowing one club to continually breach rules and regulations.
T4
i’m neil lennon, i wasn’t claiming they would be dearer or cheaper, my point is we’ll get them at their correct market price, if a player is interested in us, he knows we are interested in him, then once we have guaranteed CL football, the player (if wanting to join us) may start making noises about moving to us. as there are only 5 days left in the transfer window do the selling club take the risk of him staying and not having as successful a season therefore price drops and that player will also have run down another year of this contact, again lowering his price, we offer what we think is an acceptable price and the club can sell or not, the wages we offer then aren’t being hiked by player agents claiming we need him for the playoff therefore give him an extra 10% ( for example). we all know once a players head is turned it becomes difficult to keep him. just look at hooper and wanyama for e.g.