I’ve said for a while that very few people realise the enormity of what happened in Scottish football in 2012. Some thought there would be a three-year blip before ‘normality’ was restored. Until very recently prevailing perception is that the current ‘abnormal’ circumstances may last 10 years. The old normal isn’t coming back.
When I talked about how few people realised the permanent consequences of Rangers liquidation on the Scottish football to my brother, he was of the view that the penny wouldn’t drop until Newco were in their second season in the Premiership.
They had all the excuses in the world when they were in the lower leagues, and a genuinely good excuse during their first season in the top flight, but when things don’t improve in the second season, a retrenchment will start.
By then it will be evident that the legendary gap below Celtic is huge, that Newco are effectively cannon fodder, that their fans are a cash cow topping up the coffers of every club they visit (including Celtic), but that no matter what they pay for their season tickets, Newco will always be underfunded.
Season ticket sales at current levels are not sustainable to watch a team fail so miserably. Even this miserable team is not sustainable with the current business model. The retrenchment will be real and painful. Questions are now being asked about how they get themselves out of this mess (16 years too late). There will be no answer.
They will win the odd game against Celtic, and pick up a cup occasionally (if Ross County can do it anyone can), but Newco will only win the league if Celtic get their big move. Many football fans in Scotland will live the rest of their lives only seeing Celtic win the league. Just think of that for a moment. Buying your losers ticket each season will be a painful business. Some will find other things to occupy themselves with.
The real question that should be asked, is how sustainable is a Rangers club that’s as much chance of winning the title as St Johnstone? The answer will be evident by this time next season.
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Fairhillbhoy
Priory closed whilst you where gone also….
I, of course, meant no `other` team !!
Nye Bevan…
Hope it was of some interest to you comrade.
Amazing history.
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
FRANNYB67 on 3RD FEBRUARY 2017 3:15 PM
Fred Colon @2:15
Tosh Gorman what a mhan HH
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From Shawhead?
Big Judith surrounded by a halo (as she herself alluded), then Mort, Cadizzy and Deniabhoy on here. Quite a Friday afternoon.
Thebarcamole.
Mention your friends with BT & OT ..you might get a free cider lol.
That me and the big yin back in da hoose :).
C u Sunday
More room in the BV than the away end at Paradise when ‘Well come visiting, so reading back…
Glad to see that it isn’t just me…
‘fo their days’…
Freudian???
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
Thebarcamole
I did mention i might pop in today ….theres your reason why its quiet lol.
Good game at Perth, ole EuroChamps67 reckoned St Johnstone were the best side we’ve played in the league, after we beat them 1-0 the other week.
At Celtic Park, St Johnstone parked the bus, but were much more dangerous on the break than Aberdeen, they kicked Celtic off the park with the discretion of Andrew Dallas, and expect more of the same from the Tommy Wright mindset.
They’ll come at Celtic more this time because they are at home, and we’ll take full advantage on the break, and puncture holes in their defence.
Score forecast
St Johnstone 0 – Celtic 4
FixedOdds CSC
BT-I read that the other day when I was trying to catch up,can’t remember if I’ve ever been in it. Will be In PV Wednesday for food before we head into still game
MARSPAPA, glad to hear V is back home…
Thanks for the advice pal but the gamble is not well weighted… Might end up paying a neglected bar bill (-:
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
Judith is certainly easy on the eyes.
A question: What defines a “big” club? Is it the size of the fan base? A big stadium? Glorious history? I see the term “big” used when describing Sevco, but I also see many on here stating that they’re really just a West of Scotland club with additional fans in Northern Ireland. Over here in the States, they are unknown.
Is the “bigness” of Sevco a myth?
BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 3RD FEBRUARY 2017 3:36 PM
Good game at Perth, ole EuroChamps67 reckoned St Johnstone were the best side we’ve played in the league, after we beat them 1-0 the other week.
At Celtic Park, St Johnstone parked the bus, but were much more dangerous on the break than Aberdeen, they kicked Celtic off the park with the discretion of Andrew Dallas, and expect more of the same from the Tommy Wright mindset.
They’ll come at Celtic more this time because they are at home, and we’ll take full advantage on the break, and puncture holes in their defence.
Score forecast
St Johnstone 0 – Celtic 4
FixedOdds CSC
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BSR – can you give us the half-time score too – thinking about putting a line on…
:-))
Hope this works – a funny image from the JJ site today.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3nwbtxWIAAhJ_t.jpg
TENNESSEE TIM on 3RD FEBRUARY 2017 3:37 PM
Judith is certainly easy on the eyes.
A question: What defines a “big” club? Is it the size of the fan base? A big stadium? Glorious history? I see the term “big” used when describing Sevco, but I also see many on here stating that they’re really just a West of Scotland club with additional fans in Northern Ireland. Over here in the States, they are unknown.
Is the “bigness” of Sevco a myth?
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I’m sure former Rangers director High Adam said exactly that. That Celtic were a truly worldwide brand due in no small part to the Irish diaspora, but that Rangers were merely a West of Scotland club. The same no doubt applies to new club Sevco currently pretending to be Rangers. Who are dead.
Tennessee Tim on 3rd February 2017 3:37 pm
Is the “bigness” of Sevco a myth?
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No myth. Their debts are massive.
Fairhillbhoy
Old Commercial Bar
NAT
0 – 1 ( thank me later ) ☺️
Thebarcamole
They blantur bhoys mibbe :)..
But OT, not a chance …its a struggle to get a round in when he’s on a mission .
How could you forget the Sevco “worldwide” fan base of 500Million?
Chortles Green circa 2012
BSR-0-4 is 20/1 ,0-1 is 6/1
Do Celtic have a Jabba role?
Back in the day CQN would have lead off with the HBOS stuff but then again changed days.
So until the huns realize that they’ve nae chance and crawl back under whatever rocks they came its good to maintain a crippled hun Scottish vanguard? Nice view Paul67 and I’m the cynical one.
Well whats not to like if you’re a PLC executive waiting on your sectarian driven bigot buck pension. Well I’m hoping them’s get a 2nd coming liquidation wise and maybe all the green huns can crawl under theirrocks too which is what they will do if 10 IAR doesnt materialize.
I’m away tae puke and have a shower.
Scottish parallels?
You know most Israelis dont see the irony in the genocide of palestinians.
MARSPAPA, Aye, I know that for sure…
There was a wee smiley on the end (-:
Just waiting on V, then heading back to Amen Corner…
See you Sunday pal…
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
Blantyretim
The Ranch , the Avon , the Crown, the Hilltop and Ewings in hamilton not forgetting Bertie Aulds pub The Buccaneer (my first pint in there )
Matts , the Apollo and the Stones in blantyre a few of the old haunts now gone.
BADA
Been trying to get EuroChamp67 and the son in law to show me how to do this on line account thing,
MACJAY1 FOR NEIL LENNON on 3RD FEBRUARY 2017 12:12 PM
THE GREEN MAN SAYS SACK THE BOARD on 3RD FEBRUARY 2017 12:01 PM
Their influence is waning.
*not in the best wee bigoted country in the world I fear. Interesting wee read on the history of Liverpool FC where it stated the link between the tories, lol and the craft in the City with the latter having a tangerine hue tae it just like my birthplace.
My understanding is that Charlie is the first heir to the throne who is not a mason. Hats off to Charlie.
*you can thank his Scottish granny for that, although her husband was one she didnae like them and talked her grandsons out of joining, oul phil the greek is only 1st degree as she had words in his ear tae.
Thebarcamole
Yep saw the smiley ,glad to see you posting :)
See you Sunday ;)
Paul67 et al
You wait forever for a Generation of Domination, then before you know it , two come along at once.
BSR-I have a couple of accounts,Skybet is most user friendly and Bet Victor best for odds……good luck
From GlasgowLive website
“Wednesday night was a bleak one for Rangers defenders old and new. On the pitch Rob Kiernan chased shadows, while off it Terry Butcher waged an uncompromising war on patter. “Rob Kiernan has to settle down and get back to good defending” volunteered Butcher, exposing himself as a man unfamiliar with the work of Rob Kiernan.”
and
“Bring on the Hibees” was the cry at Tynecastle, although watching at home it wasn’t clear whether it was Hearts fans looking forward to the forthcoming derby or Rangers fans preparing for Championship football next season.
Paul 67
While I see and agree in most part with what you say, I feel you are in danger of becoming a little smug ,and somewhat disrespectful to St Johnstone. I feel a bit more humility is in order and a little less gloating is nneeded.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m loving the current situation, just loving it and seeing the hunbigots suffer gives me much pleasure.
As is often said on here, just saying like!!!
KINGLuBO
Some good ole Bhoys back on today,Mort will count how many….;]]
CELTIC MAC on 3RD FEBRUARY 2017 2:59 PM
corkcelt
If my memory serves me well we started singing “It’s gonna be 10 in a row” in January 1975. In fact I’m sure it is based on the chorus of the song ‘January’ by the Scottish band Pilot which was a hit at that time.
*Pedantic time it was the song Magic by the same group, the huns used tae reply with “it’ll never be 10 in a row which ironically was them stupidly admitting we already had 9.
Parliament is to debate a motion of no confidence in the governance of the Football Association on 9 February.
*wonder if the member from Glasgow South-side will bring up a similar one north of the border.
Warburton’s lost the plot.
“I’m reading in the paper Celtic are on a record breaking run. If they won four games less they would be 13 ahead. If we had won one of our games it would be 10. That’s how it is.”
Jesus wept.
BT-I’m sure I’ve only ever been in the welfare and pV,was in the welfare Friday before the bells for a 50th,it’s no changed much:-)))
Fred Conlon 2.15
Thanks for the reply . Impromptu fitba , nothing not to like . Feeling nostalgic , but those games presented an opportunity to play against older , harder ,though often slower player’s.
Nae feigning injury or diving back then . ;-))