Neil Lennon is big and bad enough not to need any help from you or me, but he has a job on his hands. He will prepare a squad to face Hearts twice in the next eight days, which he acquired from Brendan Rodgers in February, and which Brendan largely acquired from Ronny Deila, which is wilting before our eyes.
Injuries abound, the latest, Scott Brown’s broken toe, symptomatic of this season. Brendan tied himself in all sorts of knots in August, revealing fewer of his intentions to you or me than to Moussa Dembele. Dedryck Boyata went on strike during the latter, and unsuccessful, stage of our Champions League qualification campaign. Then Moussa went so off message Brendan decided it was best for him to leave town.
Have you worked in an environment like this? I have not, but these are just the things we know about. I doubt it was an easy shift for Brendan to lift the squad as well as he did for the Europa League, League Cup and League campaign.
Then, to cap it all, Brendan turned on his heels a day before we were due to visit Tynecastle and four days before a Scottish Cup visit to Easter Road. You may have worked in an environment like this, but I doubt you have successfully managed one.
It was demeaning for Neil Lennon to have to defend himself this week. Not to himself, but to the goldfish who are so unaware of the environment or parameters he has worked in.
Celtic won their first treble the day I was born, but I was 34 before they won their third. No club has ever won Treble Trebles in a row. Celtic have never won three consecutive Scottish Cups. The measure of our current success is so great it is difficult to quantify.
In 1995 we finished fourth in the league, two points behind Hibs and three ahead of Falkirk. But we went to the Scottish Cup Final that season and won the most magnificent dreary game played. This is football. Success is neither easy nor linear and it is never entitled. Appreciate these times.
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BIG WAVY
Bizarre isn’t it.
Spolied, spoiled support having to hang around tomorrow for twenty minutes waiting on the Champions Podium getting assembled?, without a deserter and with a caretaker manager taking ‘undeserved’ bows and plaudits.
We’re just the mugs .
Without the internet football is nothing ( to the few ) CSC
BSR @ 12:34 PM,
I’m not posting conjecture, I said quite clearly what was reported as happening, what John McGinn said happened.
After John McGinn went to Aston Villa, Brendan Rodgers and John McGinn both said, and it’s a matter of record, that John McG was expecting to be Celtic Player.
Here’s a piece of non-conjecture a month before JMcG went to Aston Villa…
…“Hibernian manager Neil Lennon expects Celtic to make a third bid for Scotland midfielder John McGinn.
McGinn was missing from the Hibs side that romped to a 6-1 first-leg win in their Europa League qualifying round tie with NSI Runavik.
Lennon insisted his player was not 100% fit with a thigh injury, but admits he has been affected by the speculation.
“He’s a human being. It’s a huge club interested in him, the biggest in Scotland, the champions,” said Lennon.
“There has been a substantial bid but it doesn’t meet our valuation, so it’ll be playing on his mind because it’s impossible not to.
“The ball is firmly in Celtic’s court. Our club have made our stance clear. I would expect Celtic to come again.”
Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers conceded Hibs are entitled to demand more for their prized asset, after rejecting a second bid believed to be in the region of £2m.
“John’s a very good player, but he’s a Hibs player, and they have every right to decide what their valuation of him is, like we did with Stuart Armstrong,” said Rodgers”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44810973
What I said was Celtic were a day late and a dollar short and I stick by that.
Maybe you could quote the “Celtic sources” that will back up the point that Celtic did all they could to get him.
I’ll tell you in advance I’m not going to accept the ones that say Rod Petrie moved the goalposts and demanded, £4.5 Million for him;)
Hail Hail
So Mourinho will be starting hes next job in July before the new season but will not disclose the club
O.K i take it it’s Saturday morning back there in Glesgy?
What a feeling that used to be, getting your Celtic apparel
ready for the gemme.
The big question was should i have a coupla drinks locally
or wait till i get to the Gallowgate? a hard one, if i drink too
soon i’ll be pissed early,if i wait till i get to Bairds i’ll get
pissed anyway, no contest , o.k so i’ll just get the one locally .
Walking up the Gallowgate, what a feeling, i suppose it’s a
bit like the Indians approaching Mecca, euphoria.
Entering paradise, that feeling when you know your surrounded
by a kindred spirit..Walk on….Walk on..with hope in your heart.
I really believe thats what defines us from the stickies they
would ,and always, sing about the obscene things that go on in
life and seem to revel in it, but thats not us thank you god.
Back to the Gallowgate, now should i have a few wee sherbets in
Baird’s, or Lynch’s, or Shipbank, Tolbooth or somewhere the princess
wouldn,t find me , i know, a hun pub, great idea Mick but where?
She’ll find you Mick even if it’s in the bowels of hell.
I know thats why i merried her lol.
H.H Mick
TLT 12.39pm
Exactly right. Hope you are well pal, plenty of folk here rooting for you.
YNWA HH
On Lenny ; it shows zero ambition and he would be Lawwells puppet.
He was eased out last time as the football was diabolical. He was in the regular habit off turning up late for training and showed zero interest in academy.
Spoke to plenty of Celtic fans and nobody wants him. Nothing personal just business.
Oh and for the doubters a shareholder and multiple season ticket holder—- appointing Lenny will not end well.
LUCKY CODY
Well said. Cheap options rarely if ever produce the goods but hey that’s often been the Celtic way…….
NYE BEVANS’ REBEL SOLDIER
With regard to final tcts I suggest going down
to your local Post Office Sorting Office which
I did yesterday and discovered it was there
The postman did not leave a card saying he tried to deliver the special delivery envelope
containing tcts exactly as he avoided doing for semi tcts
It’s easy to know this envelope contains the final tcts and easy for postmen to chance their arm that they won’t be collected if no card is left
CHAIRBHOY
BBC? ( here’s what happened )
I got text messages, as we all did all summer long that McGinn was signing the next day the next, the next, the next , the next.
All due to conjecture, its a bit like Rafa Benitez yesterday, Davie Moyes tomorrow.
Neil Lennon’s quote was made sometime before deadline day, and to use BBC as the bible definition of what happened doesn’t cut it for more discerning Celtic fans, dodging Scottish bullets on the streets.
Brendan Rodgers is on record as having called John McGinn on deadline day, he was told that McGinn was signing for Aston Villa
What was the purpose of the phone call if Celtic had not matched AV’s bid
“ Gonnae sign for Celtic John?……..even although our bid is less than Aston Villa’s? and Hibs wullnae accept it ”
The Olympiakos game that evening (or was it the next) was dire no matter your opinion, we haven’t heard Celtic’s official version and its unlikely we ever will.
HH
TLT – He’s a QC…
LUCKY CODY
Can’t understand your angst regarding Neil, if you don,t fancy
him as manager, then thats fine there’s lots of fans of the same mind
but why call him ” Lawells puppet ” is that really appropriate?
As regards nobody wants him, really? i don’t think i’m on my own , even
though i know the majority want change but thats fear of not getting
the ten kicking in.
As regards turning up late for training and showing no interest in the
academy how do you know that?
Oh and for the doubters , a multiple shareholder, still a season ticket
holder even though i’m in Oz and appointing Lenny will end well.
Nuff said
H.H Mick
RB Leipzig fans view of You’ll Never Walk Alone at Celtic Park
https://twitter.com/CelticBible/status/1129406732667707393?s=08
LUCKY CODY on 18TH MAY 2019 1:09 PM
In Lenny’s last 13 games in charge we scored 34 goals. In the league that season we scored 102 goals and ended with 99 points
In the last two seasons we’ve scored 73 and 75 goals in the league. In BR’s first season in charge we scored only four more
Read the comments in this article, they say a lot about how he was perceived when he left
https://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/neil-lennon-era-ends/#comments
Thelurkingtim,
Firstly hope all is well and you are coping. As many have said this is a good place to talk.
Nick Dr Marco was the London based sports QC Celtic successfully employed for the Scott Brown farce and trumped up SFA charges.
The unbelievable decision to overturn Jon Flanagan’s red card will imo be a prelude to what we can expect next season.. Subsequently we will need to face this head on and i fear we will require legal teams on many occasions.
Only in Scotland.
Cheers and HH.
Boy turnbull at motherwell has got to be worth a punt, young, scottish with bags of potential.
HH
BSR @ 1:18 PM,
Think your missing the point.
The leader raised the sceptre of the ’18 summer transfer debacle.
I made a comment on it with my views. The tensions between the egos of PL an BR had fuelled this.
They were both behaving like petulant teenagers.
I mentioned the McGinn, Boyata and Dembele bids to clarify my point. EK Bhoy picked up on the McGinn thing. He did not accept my point that there was a fall out over this and he said John McGinn had wanted to go south.
My point is…
Four weeks before Aston Villa bid Celtic bid for John McGinn.
Celtic were in the driving seat and according to Lenny Hibs had made their stance clear.
Brendan Rodgers obviously thought we should just pay the money and get him in before he was Cup tied.
Peter Lawwell obviously didn’t, he took a different negotiating stand.
Obviously tensions between the two men were rising high.
I make no judgement, but I didn’t come up the Clyde in a Banana Boat and just because someone tells me black is white, no matter how much I’d love to believe it… I don’t, the problems of an analytical mind I suppose.
No conjecture was disturbed in the making of this post, except maybe the banana boat thing – I’ve only got my Mum’s word for that… and my Dad was a fruiter;)
Hail Hail
Stephbhoy 1.38pm
I listened to a programme a few months back and Craigan (bt sport) was raving about Turnbull, said at development level the game was too easy for him and then said spl with Motherwell is too easy for him and thinks he could easily be better the more pressure he plays under, am sure he was asked if he could step into the Celtic first 11 and Craigan said without a doubt … am not saying Stephen Craigan should be listened too but he has worked with the boy for a number of years :-)
Hamilton 2:0 up, so another bloody plastic pitch staying in the top league?
GFTB
Watched Turnbull a few times, well impressed but more impressed with
Shved and Morgan, who knows, i thought Pukki would be a striker.
What do i know?
Just watched big Sutty and BBJ on ytube there giving it to Lescott etc on
Engerlund telly, ” Celtic reserves are bigger than Leicester ” feckin luv
them.
Once a Celt always a Celt.
H.H Mick
Melbourne Mick 2.00pm
Can’t disagree but any young player consistently performing and scoring goals (out scoring our central midfielders) should be worth a look, I have only saw the boy Turnbull on Sportscene and very comfortable with both feet … think Shved could be good yin, but as you say who cares who pulls the jersey on :-)
Sick of reading about John mcginn. Let it go.
Heard Lennon isn’t bothered about getting the job / possibly looking elsewhere because he’s allegedly been told the transfer kitty,or lack of it, will be buttons this summer.
If the club don’t spend the buck required, are you all still gonna sit in your hands, moan about it for a while, then accept and move on as usual ?
Even if it halts 9 in a row ?
Be certain that Celtic won’t get away with another horrific start to the season like last years. Have to hit the ground from the first whistle. Anything less is contempt.
what a picture , coutesy of kerrydale street.
where and when ?
https://i.imgur.com/SIiMH5J.jpg
GFTB
Agreed.
Have a look at big Sutty and BBJ on ytube thats the ghuys you
want to be in the trenches with.
Maybe have to explain that to the young dudes.
H.H Mick
SAINT STIVS
I’m guessing the 25 may 1967 dressing room in Lisbon
Willie Wallace, Jinky, Stevie Chalmers, and maybe Bertie
saying his prayers lol.
H.H Mick
GFTB on 18TH MAY 2019 1:48, there are always some good young players in the domestic game. We should be signing up the best, he is the best young players in scotland this season.
HH
Still too many not including IMHO or IMO in their posts.
IMO
& Suprior beings …laughable.
Superior…
Stephbhoy 2.21pm
I think players like that who rack up 80/100 appearances playing top team games is far more important than some of our youngsters who get a few appearances here and there, worth a punt just depends how they adapt but by all accounts Turnbull seems to have the attributes to step up
MM 2.15pm
Am sure the Sutton & Hartson clip was the following Saturday after BR had left for pastures new, I saw it at the time like or loathe big Chris Sutton he speaks the way he played :-)
SUCCULENTLAMBSTINKS you watch his prematch interview regards his ability to do job, did not look like someone who did not want the job to me.
HH
ADI DASSLER
IMO i’m a superior has been
Is that o.k?
H.H Mick
GFTB on 18TH MAY 2019 2:26 PM
Stephbhoy 2.21pm
I think players like that who rack up 80/100 appearances playing top team games is far more important than some of our youngsters who get a few appearances here and there, worth a punt just depends how they adapt but by all accounts Turnbull seems to have the attributes to step up
…………
Yip, boys need games to develop and often our kids simply dont get enough games. Would like to seem us loan more of our top kids out (aged 18 to 21) when they are not in our team so development is not stalled.
HH
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 18TH MAY 2019 12:40 PM
P67,
wrote his article telling us all the Plc strategy, that we will wait and get him for nothing, because we refused to meet the asking price
———
I remember reading that at the time and thinking it reeked of bigger boy arrogance. (Even if it had panned out as so confidently predicted)
HH jg
Not unlike the ‘For ever fiver you spend, we’ll spend a tenner….’
TosserTalk
STEPHBHOY on 18TH MAY 2019 2:27 PM
I’ve seen his demeanour in every game since he took over, hearts / hibs games apart, looks like he’s uninterested, slumped in his seat, not motivating the team, shocking substitutions, unwilling to change tactics, allowing the buns to embarrass us.
Stephbhoy 2.32pm
Exactly, most obvious one for me in the recent past was Callum MacGregor going to Notts County, never did I think Callum would come back and be a first pick, I thought we might have sold him to Notts Co for £500,000… delighted we didn’t but shows what I know :-)
STEPHBHOY on 17TH MAY 2019 9:47 PM
You like most Celtic fans appear to miss the point. I know, just like you, that both Celtic FC and the Boys Club had totally separate corporate structures. No one is contesting that.
Did you even try and answer the very simple question I asked? I’m not having a dig here, this wasn’t the 60s or 70s, this was 1986 over a decade after the founder of the Boys Club was asked to leave his position because of serious concerns regarding his behaviour towards young boys. I’ve often wondered who ‘asked him to leave’. There was a tale that has done the rounds on here and other sites that it was Jock that ejected the founder of the Boys Club out of Celtic Park. Why would Jock have done that if Celtic had no influence over the Boys Club?
Why did Celtic feel it was appropriate to investigate allegations made against individuals that had no connection to the club. That brief statement in the Celtic View sounded more like a threat to other publications than a truly honest account of dealing with those allegations. Why did Celtic feel the need to publicly back those in charge of the Boys Club when by all accounts they were aware of historical allegations against its founder?
Did they make any attempts to contact current (at that time) or former members of the Boys Club, or did they just interview those in positions of power at the Boys Club. At what point in time in the yrs prior to any charges being brought or the abusers being convicted was the club aware of any issue and what did or didn’t the club or individuals within the club do?
We have an opportunity to set the standard for dealing with historical child abuse issues in football, we should be proactive in searching for the truth about what went on under the noses of our clubs guardians at the time. Hiding behind the technicalities of legal entities is simply not good enough.
It isn’t a subject that any of us really care to get to involved in as it really is a repulsive subject. But to try and ignore it or use whataboutary to justify our silence on understanding what went on aren’t the actions of who I thought we were as a support.
The victims deserve to know whether Celtic played any role in hiding the actions of their abusers from authorities. I certainly hope that the answer to that question is no but to get to the truth we know that means we have to ask uncomfortable questions. That is the least we as a support should do. Whether we like it or not this happened, it was carried out by people who were given consent by our board to use our name. That at least makes us responsible to ensure the victims get full justice. As Ernie Lynch has stated this morning surely we had a duty of care to the youths who were drawn to this boys club as a result of Celtic FC allowing them to use our name.
Ps, I haven’t mentioned compensation, that is a totally different issue that shouldn’t get in the way of finding out how a a group of child abusers were able to abuse children using our name for almost 30yrs under the noses of our club.
I have one very simple take on the John McGinn situation.
I have no inside info on the machinations that went on in the lead up to his signing for Villa.
All, I know for sure is that there was a late attempt by people at Celtic to usurp his Villa signing- that we can all agree on, I think. Whether it was a day late or a dollar short, is arguable, but the simple bottom line is that John had , at least 2 choices, sign for Villa or come back and sign for Celtic.
He chose Villa.
He may have done so because the wages were better or he saw it as a team he could break into more readily, but, he had the choice and he made it.
Good luck to the lad!- but that’s the end of it for me- once a better offer was negotiated (by Villa) he made the choice. Petrie might have made it harder for Celtic to get at him, and Peter Lawwell’s salary bid may have made it harder for McGinn but neither made it impossible for John McGinn to sign for Celtic.
John McGinn turned us down- I don’t hate him. I don’t take a stand that “he’ll never be forgiven”. But he means nothing to me now- just another Scot playing down South.
St Stivs 2.15
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