Celtic’s objective for today is to add a striker, who is happy to take his chances at Celtic behind Leigh Griffiths and Moussa Dembele. The target (as you will know) is 19-year-old France youth international Odsonne Edouard.
We have agreed a loan with Celtic having the option to buy for an eight-figure sum. There remains a complication between player and current club, Paris Saint-Germain, which all parties are hoping will resolve, but this one has the potential to go to the wire.
Odsonne is regarded by manager, scouts and coaches at Celtic as an absolute star. He made four starts for Toulouse in Ligue 1 last season before off-field matters got in the way (which I’ll not trivialise, but we’ll deal with at a later date). He is a player who needs to leave Paris for new influences in a fresh environment. The move to Celtic could be the break he needs.
The initial loan period gives the player a chance to resolve any legacy issues before Celtic commit to breaking transfer records.
The manager has been impressed by Odsonne’s attitude thus far. He knows he would be the junior party in a three-man attacking roster, and that his objectives for the season is to press those above him.
In the coming weeks, our fit 19-year-old central defender will be joined by three more-senior team-mates. Competing with Kristoffer Ajer for fourth spot is only likely to be attractive to another teenage prodigy. I don’t expect movement on this front.
At this stage of the window, the chances of anyone near the first team being allowed to leave are reducing, but there are a lot of worried teams with >£100m of TV money out there. Enough to fund transfer fees and provide wages to unsettle the most faithful of stalwarts.
There will be calls made, you can be sure of that. I know some people at Celtic Park who will be happy people after 23:00 tonight, when the window in England closes, without any of our players being unsettled.
Enjoy your day, let’s hope Odsonne’s details are sorted and no one waves £50k per week-type money before our players.
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Generations Will Rize…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HLQ7gAHHz-Y
DD, the München burdz are much better than the two BV truncheon munchers fae the Brig that you Tindered, lol.
I am struggling to see what is wrong with agreeing a buy out clause, even if it is at the level of 7 or 8 or , even 10 million pounds or euros.
I think Neganon’s view, though he does not spell it out, is that because the feeit is so high, Celtic will never pay that amount.
But if he is very good in his time with us, let’s say as good as Dembele, then we would be willing to pay up to 10 mill because we are buying a player that other clubs would vallue at 20 or 30 mill- so we either get a good player or we get a player we can sell at a profit.
Mow, if he is not any good when with us, or if he is good but nowhere near 10 mill’s worth of good, we can let him go back to PSG and he is their problem. Where’s the catch.
The only other problem I can discern from Neganon’s post is that he is just a cheap loan player and not worth anywhere near £10 mill in real life. However, any current young French player that can be picked up by PSG and represent that strong country at u-17, u-18 and u-19 level scoring regularly at all these age levels, then you’d be hard-pressed to say he is not “potentiall” about to become a 10 or 20 or 30 million pound player.
We have shown with scores of previous loanees that we can ditch them rapidly and we only suffer 6 or 12 months of wage loss on them. We have also shown that with good loanees, Boruc and Forster, we can land them on permanent contracts when we want. There have been few instances of a loan player we wanted to sign, not being able to be kept (maybe Guidetti). ven with Paddy Roberts, we were able to tempt him back once he saw that he was not going to make Pep’s squad and that this would not be his breakthrough season in england. We still have hopes that, with the passage of time, and Paddy being a good player at our level but still not at Man City’s more stellar level, then we could, just could, land him on a future permanent deal, if we can sort out Fulham.
I know we cannot land too many £10m plus players on permanent deals but, given the recent transfer fee explosion, these £10 mill + players, if that is what Roberts and Oddsone prove to be, can be bought by Celtic but only if, we are prepared to sell our Dembele and our Tierney, and, in turn, our Roberts and our Oddsone, when they trigger a fee profitable for us to let them go and re-invest the fee.
Witha fair wind for improvement and game time during his loan spell, I am afraidd that PL risks a severe negative tonselling if we do decide to buy Oddsone next year.
DELANEYS DUNKY@11-49
Well said.
Your da was a wise man.
Pog
Cannae wait. Four nights of good beer, great company and who knows whit?? :)
Neganon2,
i canny be bothered scrolling back to find them
if you dont remember then fair enough,
you asked if it was dark where i was,
of course it was ,it was about 1 in the morning ;-))
Delaneys,
seriously,you think you are gonna get a lemon curd ;-))
DD when do you arrive in München? I’m there from 18-21/10.
Negative to selling is the truncheon muncheners thing …
Smiley hh ACGR stroke Delanys thing…
Braw.
Negative Tonselling….
Post losing through pils …
Braw.
Happy enough with signings and team progression last 12.
Does that make me a happy-clapper?
I suppose it does in some eyes.
I used to scroll back to check if i’d missed some factoid about Celtic that some wise old Tim had posted…but not any more.
If i catch it when i log-on then fair enough, otherwise naw.
Too many posters in the last year or so spend ALL day logged on spouting either the same repetitive pish which in turn gets a reaction and views become entrenched or are just plain rude to other posters.
Lazy usage of pigeon-holing posters is very tiresome.
Mineshafter/Happy clapper/Board lover are thrown out with gay abandon (who Celtic should’ve signed :-) ….and it is sad to see.
Personally i can be all of the above in any given week depending on circumstance.
Unless you are a hun troll then when you sign up to CQN you are doing so because you have something to say that you believe others might want to hear.
Please bear this in mind when you dive in. Take a breath and consider your reason for your participation here. It is surely not to make enemies, rather it should be to celebrate being part of something greater.
I have been guilty- more than once – of diving in and always regret it afterwards.
With reference to the ‘always on’ posters i would hope you have more than just CQN to communicate with the wider world. If not then try your best to make your time here more productive/worthwhile.
Sermon over.
Peace and goodwill to all good men and wummin.
So another window slams shut. Disappointed we never got a quality centre back, but we were only an unforeseen medical condition from an potentially exceptional window. Don’t want to make signings just for the sake of it and end up with some diddy that you have to loan out for 2 years. Hopefully Boyata can play at least 30 minutes against Hamilton. Eddie may get some game then as well and possibly start away to Dundee in the cup.
Looking forward to another fantastic season.
Braw, keep taking the pils, und Weiß not.
SFTB, you’re far to polite. Why does anyone give credence to the rantings of some of the arseholes on here who neither contribute to, nor support the team in any way shape or form?
Looking forward to seeing this young French dude in hoops ripping it up and pushing Moussa and Griff.
Even more looking forward to the PSG game next Tuesday but with grave trepidation given the delicate state of our defence.
Neustadt-braw
Thankyou Amigo
The ould handbags at dawn in this dear green place had me thinkin about family get-the-githers, where the talk would get to Celtic about 5 minutes after the first gulp, and a full blown rammie 5 minutes later
My uncle Peter would staun and belt this song as a “shut it ya eejits”
It’ll be familiar to the – cough – aulder citizens here
“I was working outside a lunatic asylum one day
In the act of breaking stones
Along came a lunatic and said to me
Well good morning mister jones
How much a week do you get for doin that
Thirty Bob I sighed
He looked at me with a twinkle in his eye
And this is what he cried
Come inside ya silly bugger, come inside
Ah you want to have a bit more sense
Workin for a living?
Take my tip
Act a little silly and become a lunatic
Ah you get your meals quite regular
And two new suits besides
Thirty bob a week, a wife and kids to keep?
Come inside ya silly bugger, come inside”
No lunatics were hurt in the making of this video
Cos its not a video
OUR NEW BHOY EDOUARD
COUP DE FOUDRE
Coup de foudre is the French term for a thunderbolt or strike of lightning, but it’s been used figuratively in English since the late 1700s to mean love at first sight.
Fan a tic
He never spoke a lot. When he did it mattered.
God rest him. Thanks
Pog
Sipsini, One Malloy and partner and I are in Munchen fae Monday 16 to Friday 20.
BRTH
•••••••
God bless you fella.
Thoughts and Prayers for that poor soul that you represented yesterday.
You know what, if it wasn’t for my mrs, five years down the road, its me that you could have been representing in that place. Yesterday, I was being advised at the c.a.b. by another Mr Fallon, not the one that you know.
This place, is my only link to the outside world, its my mask. Just so deep, I can’t do it any other way.
Keep doing what you do. God bless.
……oot.
Gordy
Stranger things have happened G.
Praying to Saint Jude for a lemon curd is bad. :)
Ajax’s recipe for success: Ridiculously young players and a brilliant coach
I’ve never seen the Amsterdam Arena as happy as the other night when Ajax played Lyon. The stadium opened in 1996, exactly when Ajax’s good days were ending. It’s a low-atmosphere bowl in an out-of-town business park, a bad imitation of an outdated American model.
But that night, an absurdly young Ajax team hammered Lyon 4-1 in the Europa League semifinal on the way to the final against Manchester United in Stockholm on May 24. The crowd could hardly believe it. Old fat guys like me were singing their heads off like teenagers. “No cheering in the press box” is the ancient rule, but as a lifelong fan of Dutch soccer, I broke it. To make everything perfect, Ajax had just announced that it planned to rename the arena after the club’s spiritual father, Johan Cruyff.
Ajax is back.
And the credit goes not to the famous ex-players who now run the club, but to a bald, uncharismatic 53-year-old coach who has never yet won a trophy and used to play for archrival Feyenoord.
In 2011, Cruyff led a coup at Ajax based on the belief that only great former players know how to run soccer clubs. Marc Overmars became technical director, Edwin van der Sar was made marketing director and later CEO, Frank de Boer coached the first team and Dennis Bergkamp worked as a humble youth coach. But the first five years were pretty miserable. Ajax won four Dutch titles, but got tonked in Europe every season. De Boer’s teams played a slow game of endless square balls. Smart opponents would wait to intercept a sideways pass in Ajax’s defense, then pounce. The Cruyff revolution’s stated aim — winning Champions Leagues again — never looked like it would come true.
Ajax’s academy continued to produce good players (though the only top-rank offensive player to emerge in the past decade is Christian Eriksen, who now plays for Tottenham), but they swiftly left for bigger leagues. The club’s bank balance stands at about €100 million. Of all the clubs in Europe, only Arsenal, another famously stingy club, has built up a bigger piggy bank.
Overmars didn’t hold with the old Ajax adage: “The capital should be on the field”. He insisted, implausibly, that high spending might jeopardize the club’s existence. For years he made only bargain-basement signings and refused to raise salaries to keep good players. The club has revenues of about €100 million a year, but Overmars says the wage bill for its entire playing staff is just €21 million. That means Ajax is spending only about 20 percent of revenues on salaries, whereas more conservative European clubs typically spend 50 to 60 percent. Ajax’s best-paid players earn about €1 million a year, which means that there are dozens of foreign clubs where they can better themselves.
Overmars would probably have let De Boer stay forever, but last summer the coach himself decided to leave, for what turned out to be a brief, disastrous spell at Inter Milan. For once, the Cruyff clique gave a key post to an outsider. The new coach, Peter Bosz, had had his best playing days at Feyenoord, not Ajax. The biggest club he had ever managed before coming to Amsterdam was Maccabi Tel Aviv.
But Bosz was the one Dutch manager who had thought hard about how to update Dutch soccer. He had grown up on the Cruyffian style, even keeping a scrapbook of the great man’s interviews that he consulted constantly. His biggest modern influence was another of Cruyff’s pupils, Pep Guardiola. At Barcelona from 2008-12, Guardiola had developed a new brand of pressing soccer — essentially, an updated version of what Cruyff’s Ajax and Holland teams did in the 1970s.
At Ajax, Bosz introduced Guardiola’s “five-second rule”: As soon as his players lost the ball, they had to try to win it back within five seconds. It meant that, instead of retreating toward their goal, they had to push forward, pressing the opponents’ defenders and keeper. (In the 1970s, before the word “pressing” entered soccer, the Dutch called this “hunting.”) Pressing only works if every player plays his role. It’s an exhausting style, and high-risk: Ajax’s defense aims to station itself on the halfway line, so if any player is out of position, the road is open for a counterattack.
After a couple of early defeats, the players grasped the Bosz style. It helped that they are an exceptionally gifted lot. For years, Ajax didn’t have a single player who could reliably dribble past defenders. Now it has several. The German outside-left, thickset little Amin Younes, has an entirely predictable trademark move of cutting inside the defender onto his right foot — and it almost always succeeds. If Younes had a better pass or shot, he’d be at Barcelona. As it is, Germany has just named him in its squad for the Confederations Cup this summer, an unheard-of honor for a player in the Dutch league.
Last August, Overmars was saying that Ajax wouldn’t sign midfielder Hakim Ziyech from FC Twente because he was too expensive and would only block the development of academy players. (Many at Ajax seem to think that the first team exists to develop youngsters, rather than to play well and win things.) Then Ajax lost 4-1 at Rostov — a display that earned Van der Sar expressions of pity at a gathering of European soccer officials in Monaco — and Overmars hurriedly forked out €11 million for Ziyech. It was Ajax’s record transfer fee, and it’s been worth it. Ziyech has a beautiful left foot but is also a master of the press, with a knack for winning balls back instantly. In the final minutes of games, you often see him with his tongue hanging out, his spindly legs spent, suddenly unable to place a pass.
Up front, 19-year-old Dane Kasper Dolberg was thrust into the first team last summer when Napoli pinched Ajax’s Polish striker Arek Milik for €32 million. Dolberg has delivered 16 league goals and six in the Europa League (so far). A big man with a delicate touch and a repertoire of feints, he is often compared with a previous teenaged Ajax Scandi striker, Zlatan Ibrahimovic. In fact, Dolberg is more savvy than the Swede was at that age, though he lacks the mature Ibra’s knack of spreading his body to ensure that any ball flying in his general direction is his.
On the right flank, Bertrand Traore, on loan from Chelsea, can dribble and create at top pace. If he had more precision, he’d be at Stamford Bridge. Justin Kluivert, Patrick’s son, who turned 18 only this month, is a quick dribbler and has had a lot of game time on the wings. Bosz has preferred him to Ajax’s latest record purchase, the Brazilian David Neres, who came from FC Sao Paolo for €12 million this winter.
In central midfield, Davy Klaassen controls the tempo of games, almost always making the right decision. But Ajax’s key player is probably in central defense: the quick Colombian giant Davinson Sanchez, 20, who mops up whatever gets through Ajax’s press. Overmars deserves all credit for signing him for €5 million even before Sanchez won last year’s Copa Libertadores with Atletico Nacional. Sanchez’s usual partner in central defense in recent weeks has been Matthijs de Ligt, just 17, who has already played for Holland, albeit too early. (He was at fault for Bulgaria’s first goal in Holland’s 2-0 defeat there in March and was substituted at halftime).
The goalkeeper is Cameroonian Andre Onana, 21, a brilliant player whose speed off the line and confidence in the air allows him to control almost the entire penalty area. Overmars picked him up at Barcelona two years ago. When Ajax’s starting keeper Jasper Cillessen joined Barca at the end of last summer’s transfer window, it was too late to sign a replacement. Onana filled in, and very soon nobody in Amsterdam was talking about Cillessen anymore.
This must be the youngest side ever to reach a European final. (Even Ajax’s Champions League-winning team of 1995 had vastly more experience.) The current team’s only veteran, Lasse Schone, 30, appears on the verge of losing his defensive midfield spot to Donny van de Beek, 20. The 10 Ajax players who finished the second leg of the semifinal in Lyon on May 11 had an average age of 20.5 years. It’s astounding that they have come this far, even if they lose to the favorites United. What a shame that Cruyff didn’t live to see it: He died in March 2016.
But this summer the team looks sure to fall apart. It is probably impossible to keep players like Klaassen or Sanchez, who are ready for big clubs. Dolberg might stay to give himself another couple of seasons of guaranteed first-team soccer before moving on. The worry, though, is that Overmars’ stinginess might push out players who are willing to stay. Even with all that money in the bank, he has been musing about cutting salaries further. This spring he made a lowball offer to Onana, who was only asking to be put in Ajax’s top salary category of players on about €1 million a year. Now that Onana is hot property, it may be too late to keep him.
Put simply, Ajax needs to spend more. The transfer fees for Ziyech and Neres were a good start. It’s true that the club can never compete with the bigger English, Spanish or German sides. However, Ajax should benchmark itself against clubs like Lyon, Basel, Porto or Benfica, who also play in second-tier leagues and have budgets somewhere in Ajax’s range. (If some of them have a bit more to spend, it’s mostly because they’ve done much better than Ajax in the lucrative Champions League.)
These clubs regularly go far in European competition. Ajax could too. It should certainly be doing better in Europe than Belgian clubs, all of which have smaller budgets than Ajax. Success will cost money — money that the club has.
But even if Bosz moves on to bigger things this summer, Ajax has an updated version of its house style — call it Ajax 3.0 — that can take it forward for the next few years. Ajax 3.0 might even revive the hopeless Dutch national team
Odsonne Édouard
Years Apps (Gls)
2015– Paris Saint-Germain B 13 (3)
2016– Paris Saint-Germain 0 (0)
2017 → Toulouse (loan) 16 (1)
2017– → Celtic (loan) 0 (0)
National team‡
2014–2015 France U17 12 (15)
2015–2016 France U18 9 (4)
2016–2017 France U19 13 (5)
Moussa scored 19 in 64 games at Fulham. 17 of those were in his second season, leading to the £6m failed loan back deal between Fulham and Spurs in January 2016.
Under Brendan Moussa has kicked on to 32 goals in 49 games.
Moussa was born on 12th July (ahem) 1996 and Odsonne 16th January 1998.
If anyone can get the best out of Odsonne it’s BR, especially given his track record of improving players and in particular forwards(Sterling,Suarez, Dembelle,Griffiths).
If Odsonne can get a run of games/goals in our domestic football what would his projected value be?
If it doesn’t work, no ongoing commitment (Amido/Pukki/Derk).
Hopefully the incident in Toulouse will be a turning point for the player and with the positivity at Celtic and BR’s coaching this could be the making of the bhoys career.
Good for the player and both clubs and who knows maybe the start of a Man City type relationship with PSG…they have a few bob too I hear.
DD, I’ll speak to you closer to the time and we’ll meet up and I’ll take on a wee tour of my beloved München. I’ll be there two weeks before for the ‘Fest and back again for the game.
Neustadt-braw, HH ya loon.
I’ll be in your home town on Sat. My big pal (a polis for 30 years) retired last week and I’m going to get pished with him and other friends on Sat.
Should be a good one as it starts at lunchtime. You would probably know the guy and his family.
Rips ma heid the way cqn is unilaterally anti polis. My buddy loves the Rebs and hates the huns, he couldn’t give a shit about football, which is quite refreshing.
HH ya loonny:_)
Delaneys,
alright mucker,
i am sure there is a young fraulein waiting for you in Munchen
Pog
Good man. Thank you. We will love a knowledgable Tim tour guide in München.
Gordy
As long as I am no hit wae a Morticia Addams lookalike fae Coatbrig again. ;)
BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN on 31ST AUGUST 2017 10:56 PM
Respect to you and to Blantyretim for your happily successful efforts .
Talkers and doers.
You guys are in the latter camp.
DD, you’re just too damn fussy:_)
was that lunatic asylum at Westminster?…
It is braw being daft…smiley looking up at all them brawer Loons!
Braw
ACGR,
areee with you about DD,
looking like him you would think any port in a storm ;-)))
ACGR, I believe your man(?) CCE is referring to Kitalba (Oz) and Awe_naw ( D-land) feckin cheek. Both guys red carded from here so he knows they can’t reply to him.
POG, did you and Mrs POG get to Mulu yet?
Not to be missed when you have the opportunity you have.
HH
ACGR
Was invited to her Coatbrig hun torture dungeon. Was never so happy to make it on the Dalmuir train wi ma baws still intact. Close shave.
ACGR, yes her and the Bhoy went a couple of weeks ago and visited the bat cave, advice was careful when you look up and keep your mouth closed.
They thought Mulu was braw ©Neustadt Braw
JIMMYQUINNSBITS on 1ST SEPTEMBER 2017 12:21 AM
Neustadt-braw
Thankyou Amigo
The ould handbags at dawn in this dear green place had me thinkin about family get-the-githers, where the talk would get to Celtic about 5 minutes after the first gulp, and a full blown rammie 5 minutes later.
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Brilliant.
Because most of us can identify .
:-)
POG, that was my guess but I thought I’d ask CCE for confirmation.
Bang out of order on every front.
When are you up my neck of the woods to visit yer boy? I’ve a tooth situation my dentist is giving me the run around on. You could have a look and then we could get a curry and a bevvy…….:_)
Right need to sleep, need to conserve my energy for tomorrow night, well 3 minutes of it any way.
G’night all.
wishfulthinkingcsc