It’s all politics. Not actual politics, in the strict definition of the word, but clubs’ dealings with the SPFL and SFA is mostly about politically manoeuvring in the direction to win your argument.
Experienced political operators will tell you not to fight the same people on too many points; pick the important areas to win and take a few defeats on the chin. Box the SPFL into a corner by not charging season ticket holders for entry into play-off matches, and you’re onto a sure win. But all SPFL clubs are members of the SFA.
They all like being given their place. If I wanted something important from the SFA, like exemption from the rule prohibiting directors of a liquidated club from subsequently becoming a club director, I’d concentrate on that and ask politely for permission to let season ticket holders into games.
But I realise there are different types of political animal. The consensus political animal is effective in certain times, then there are those who have a self-righteous tone to rules. It’s their way or the highway. To paraphrase Bob Shankly, pure, athletic, Thatcherism. Britain wasn’t ready for Thatcherism 30 years ago. She won in 1979 and lost lots of votes second time around in ’83, but the Labour vote split. The 80s were lean. For some.
Scottish football is in for a period where a self-righteous entity will muster its forces. The media coverage will reflect what we saw in politics in the 80s. The consensus operators must stand firm and unite.
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Bankiebhoy 1
Good one, but I think Joe Strimmer edges it.
jamesgang – I’ll do my best. Stay till 6 ;-)
GlassTwoThirdsFull
11:17 on 30 April, 2015
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Yip – guilty as charged…I was getting mixed-up wi all the Dundee Utd games.
Old Fogey – CSC
Lymmbhoy
Thanks for posting that, I’ll have a go at them
Not sure if I’ll make Bv tonight bhoys
Have a guid day Tims.
….bye.
Jobo
I’ll do my best tho I may be away towards the Corner about then. Need to meet my Dad.
Arr in Gla laters y’all
HH jamesgang
Bognorbhoy
Yes, many hoopy returns, Danny!
What a player!
its make your mind up time…
rangers say fans can use their season books for the play offs because its the same season.
mc call is in their favourite paper saying suspensions for yellow cards shouldnt count as the season has finished.
lets hope the spfl lawyers are reaing this.
oh an by the way he also says dave king will pass his test in a few days,,,,didnt know glib and shameless was taking his driving test that must be why every time we see him on the news hes jumping out of a taxi.
Is ally not a fan of Soundgarden? or is it Huns N Roses?
beatbhoy
08:14 on 1 May, 2015
Bankiebhoy 1
Good one, but I think Joe Strimmer edges it.
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Very good :)
Beatbhoy.
Prefab sprout?
Beatbhoy……….
I agree.
The Edge(r) CSC
HH.
SFTB
He’s a big fan of Shed 7, and,of course, the Rakes.
I also agree, Joe Strimmer edges it.
Happy birthday Daniel Fergus McGrain.
Legend.
His favourite solo artist is Patio Smith
jobo
Do both.
Thunder road
Now that is a true Celtic legend.
HH.
67 Heaven
Do you have a link or source of that Joe Mccormack article?
Fraud is well within the bounds of possibility.
His fav hedge has got to be
Leylandive
I still cant get over the fact of their squealing about being called HUNS
They hate everybody and everything, the worst bigots and morons on the planet.
HUNS then, HUNS now, HUNS forever.
No matter what they do…..They will always be called HUNS, because that’s exactly what they are….HUNS.
And BTW….they aint the brightest either.
HUNS….GIRFUY
HH
Kev – no prob. Cheers.
Is Danny back working at THE Club?
Favourite Venue?………………………..
……………Madison Square
Garden.
*B’ddum tish*
;)
Greenpinata.
Good yin!
As far as I can see, the SFA carpeted Guidetti for singing a song that was offensive to another club. Nowhere have the SFA said he used sectarian language.
Now I often use the word Hun in reference to Rangers. I don’t see it as having sectarian connotations, but I have always thought of it as offensive.
On that basis, I don’t believe Celtic players should be using the word Hun in public. That Guidetti did so, I also believe the Celtic support must shoulder some of the blame.
Surely it is not beyond us to make up songs about our heroes that do not include references to the deid club. Surely we can compose a song about a Celtic player without dragging in Rangers or including sexual swear words aimed at other professionals – we don’t like Shearer cos he’s a w****r – especially when we want kids to sing it.
We are surely better than that.
Tom
We can’t win
We got slagged for using a hymn when signing about KOK
Where does this end, Kev J is correct to a point we are becoming too sanitized
RWE
Thanks for the detailed answer, I also think that our new time of “social media” has created millions upon millions of permanently offended people, where everybody in the public’s eye every little life detail is scrutinised and people are punished for what we used to call daft boyism:))
Guided of course were it a court of law could argue that he was merely repeating a song sung by the wider Celtic support and of course he mean’t no offence to the Govan Dodgers.
The campaign against Celtic players this year seems to me to be designed to upset our momentum towards the title and towards wider football success, I doubt Tonev will have much good to say about his experience up here and Guidetti must think, where the hell have I landed?
The “legacy” of the Legned Ogil Campbellviy continues to choke the life out of our game.
No doubt some glowing praise awaits him when he finally shuffles off in to the orangeset, an administrator involving in sub legal schemes that were the make up of two of Scotland’s bigger clubs going bust. A legacy of bias and manipulation, of gerrymandering and outrageous cheating.
Thanks Campbell you’re a brick, your head of a figurative plate would not be enough to salve the wounds of the damage you have done to our national game but then again maybe Graham Spiers is right and you’re just a really nice decent guy:))
We’ve a title to win and as usual under pressure from our national association who it seems don’t like us winning:))
I’m sure tonights songbook will make us all roar with laughter and bring the wrath of the mighty SFA down upon our heads once more!
The SFA legends in their own blazers..
Up The Rebels…
BT –
I accept that, but surely there is a huge difference between ordinary supporters singing the songs or using the word Hun and players using it. I don’t think Celtic players should be calling them Huns, especially on TV.
May Day in the wee valley -way down south.
Big party / big feast.Suckling pig wrapped in leaves and herbs and roasted in holes in the ground lined with wet mirtle leaves.Music , dancing and song. Lashings and lashings of Nero D’Avola.
Expo 2015 opens in Milan today.Anarchists have stated that they will disrupt the event .Milan plod have been busy arresting anarchists from all over Europe.Things are likely to get serious.
22 at 9 45 – should hit 30 for the party -way down south.
BT
My wee sister doesn’t like hymns being used.
But she knows the huns are deid!
HH jamesgang
Those of you with kids playing at U17 and U19 level will know that this time of the season is fraught, as the kids take their Higher exams. As a rule, we don’t permit our players to play within 48 hours prior to an exam, on the basis that an injury is likely to cause significant impact to exam preparation and outcomes.
Compounding this, given the backlog from previous winter weather postponements, the League scheduled us to play 11 games in the 4 week period to 10th May. When we get through that lot, we’ll only have another 6 league games to play to complete the League season.
Outcome?
So far, in the past 3 weeks we have had 3 players with hamstring tears and 2 with strained hip flexors, in addition to the usual lumps and bumps. That’s 5 from a squad of 18 who are out for the next 4-6 weeks, in addition to the 2 longer term injuries we have.
Brilliantly, the League has now decided to introduce an end of season League Cup, played… midweek of course. You couldn’t make this up.
The first ties are slated for the evening of 14th May, the night before… Higher English.
Between 12th April and 31st May, 7 weeks in all, we will have been required to play 17 league matches plus whatever ties we get in the new League Cup competition.
Why 31st May?
Well, that’s when the football parks are closed for the summer.
You read that right.
On 1st June the goal frames are taken down, and the gates to the council pitches are padlocked. They don’t open again until August.
I’ll vote for whatever party promises to bring rationality to youth football in Scotland.
Meantime, we’ve got ice and ibuprofen.
I tell you….we are very mild….in comparison to the songs those knuckle draggers sing.
They don’t sing songs about their team, because, they don’t know any that doesn’t involve bigotry and racism.
Calling them HUNS….is being kind to them, god forbid we offend people peepul that sing that they are up to their knees in fenian blood. ffs
They should called a lot worse than HUNS.
HH
Oh…don’t hurt their feelings by calling them HUNS.
Seriously…..have you listened to what they sing ffs
HH
SoT….Buona Festa!
I won’t be in Paradise tonight because my dear mother is being received at the chapel at 6pm where she will rest under the watchful eye of the angels prior to her requiem mass and burial tomorrow morning.
After the service, my brother and I will take our grieving father to the Railway Tavern to watch the game amongst other family and friends. That will be a nice wee surprise for him.
Here’s hoping for a good performance and another 3 points.
Hail Hail.
Whither the cash strapped scrofulous Hunbillies the day?
I’ve never before heard complaints about hymns being ‘adapted’ by football fans.
Apart from ‘King of Kings’, a couple of other Celtic examples spring immediately to mind: ‘Hail Glorious Saint Patrick’ and ‘Our God Reigns’.
There must be plenty others; including at amongst fans of other clubs) …
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