We gave STV credit on Wednesday for their reporting on SPL voting process required to decide what to do if a new company applies to join the league after an existing team ceases to exist (through prepack or other means).
I subsequently noticed in the same article they suggest Leeds United went into liquidation and returned with a phoenix prepack. This is incorrect. Leeds United, then in administration, were sold in 2007 to Ken Bates’ newly formed company, with Bates agreeing a deal with creditors. Leeds were, therefore, only liable for the statutory 10 point penalty for entering administration, although the league increased the punishment to 15 points as the club failed to follow correct administration procedure.
I don’t wish to harangue STV on what was an article with genuine information but they cite Leeds as a precedent: “there is no guarantee that the Scottish Premier League would act in the same way as their counterparts in England but the similarities between the regulations mean that the precedent may be used as a guide”.
If I was Rangers right now I would be trying to convince everyone that putting a football club out of existence, only to allow another company to pick up its league share, with a points total calculated from the position of the former club, is similar to a common administration. It’s not. This would be a completely different scenario.
Having discussed this matter with many people throughout the game and the media, I can find no precedent for a football club going out of existence and phoenix-ing back into the same league spot.
Airdrieonians failed in 2008, when the owners of Clydebank FC moved to Airdrie and renamed to Airdrie United. Gretna FC were voted into the space created by the absence of Airdrieonians (then a Second Division team), but entered at the bottom of the Scottish Football League.
Gretna failed in 2008 and a new club based at the same ground successfully applied for membership of the East of Scotland Football League. Annan Athletic entered the bottom rung of the Scottish Football League after Gretna’s demise, not into the First Division spot Gretna were unable to fulfil. Third Lanark were in the bottom division of the Scottish Football League when they were replaced by Clydebank.
Gretna-Annan, Clydebank-Gretna, Third Lanark-Clydebank are the only precedents that exist. If you fail, the team that replaces you joins the bottom rung of the Scottish senior league structure, there have been no exceptions, in Scotland or in England.
The SFA have a say in this matter also. They must ratify any decision of the SPL board and grant a licence to a new club before if can play in the SPL or Scottish Football League. The national association is made up of member clubs, most of whom stand to gain considerably if a Rangers Newco FC were to enter the Scottish Football League.
Irrespective of the SPL’s decision, the SFA better have some pretty good lawyers if they deviate from precedent. The football authorities have a duty to ensure their competitions observe meritocratic and moral correctness. It’s only ‘fit and proper.
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Another Alex frae Govan
Though you may struggle to make sense of it all yourself, they’re are people who appreciate your efforts in posting. As you say, a wee bit slagging on the internet is a puerile pastime and there are bigger issues in life.
Tke care and keep posting when you feel like it.
BTW
Apparently the Gers are Big in Mongolia
I can’t spell there
Follow follow are running the story on their website about our fouls per booking rate being higher than anybody else’s and suggesting it is due to the sfa changes last year ? It’s based on yellows, I noticed they haven’t looked at red cards – Rangers are 132 per red card and we are 69 !
blantyretim says:
4 November, 2011 at 22:31
G64
yip
3000 fans v prawn brigade…
always..
notice how the corperate boxes where empty last night…
Have asked the question twice (ealier tonight) – does anyone know why Gordon Smith was in a hospitality box at last night’s game (behind the press section)?
CuriousCFC!
VP
the larkhall friends are in town towmorrrow so it vigil mass for me what with the 12.00 ko on Sunday…
therefore, nope I will not be in PV tomorrow pm..
longwinded naw wasn’t it….
goals from last nite-2 assists from Sammi
Bt
No problem,G64 and I will raid the gang hut instead.
Hail hail
You can’t spell take either :>)
VP
after larkhall punters it will be well raided…. o)))
text me if you go in, might pop in to say GTF
Guys,
Apologies for breaking into the quiz night but I’ve just been reading the earlier posts about fathers mispronouncing players names and a long forgotten tale from my ‘ol Da has just come to mind.
My dad was the local Postie and one day came home to tell me that a famous footballer had moved into our area. A Rangers player, no less!
It was Alex MacDonald, but my dad always pronounced it Weeshiteymacdonald. I don’t think I knew his name was Alex till he signed for Hearts!
My dad had been taught that dogs gave Postmen such a hard time because they saw the Postie come to the door every day and never get invited in. As a result the dog saw it as his duty to repel this unwanted visitor.
Well, Weeshitey had a big Alsation. They were the cleverest of dogs. They could identify you by sound or smell alone.
The phsycological battle lines were duly drawn!
My dad would walk up the path at the same time each day, announcing his arrival by whistling ” For it’s a grand old team to play for…”. By the time he reached the letterbox the dog was at fever pitch. It know what was coming.
My dad would torment it by dangling a letter in and then withdrawing it, time after time. The dog would frantically try to latch on to it. After a bit of teasing he would let the dog get hold and then the tug of war would commence. Once my dad was satisfied that the envelope was soaking wet and utterly shredded he would concede defeat. He would then proceed to do do the same with the rest of the mail.
This obviously became the highlight of his day.
One day he went up the path and was met with silence. He noticed there was no car in the drive. Noticing the next door neighbour in his garden he shouted “Hey, where’s wee shi…..Alex? The guy pointed to the driveway and said “if there’s no car in the drive it means Alex has taken the dog away for a walk in the park.
Duly noted.
No car meant no dog. No dog meant no mail!
This went on for weeks. Then, one day my dad was summoned to the Office. Weeshitey had put in a complaint. My dad explained about the dog. His explanation was grudgingly accepted but was told that in future Weeshitey would pick up his mail from the PO.
My dad was gutted. I’d never seen him so down. His life seemed to have lost all purpose.
Gradually, he bounced back. He said to me one day that Weeshitey must feel that he had no mates. I asked him why and he smiled as he explained that he never seemed to receive any postcards from friends and relations when they went on holiday!
He must have been bemused at how popular he had become when he signed for the Wee Hunz!
Enjoy your weekend, guys. Especially, if you’re in Lanarkshire on Sunday!
Billy Bhoy
I’d rather be in CP with every supporter
cheering on the team for 90 minutes.
If you can’t do that please stay away.
Frank Spencer does vocals :-)
AAFG says:
4 November, 2011 at 20:32
Best summary of Sammi’s faults/attributes I have read on here. Top post.
Alex Ferguson became Man. Utd’s Manager on 6th November 1986.Celtic’s Manger was David Hay.We have had 11 further Managers in the next 25 years.
Berlin’s “Take My Breath Away” had just replaced Nick Berry’s “Every Loser Wins” at no.1 in the Singles Chart.A Police Greatest Hits Compilation had just replaced Paul Simon’s “Graceland” at No.1 in the Album Chart.
Man Utd lost their 1st match under Fergie to Oxford Utd. Meanwhile Celtic beat Hamilton Accies 2-1 at Douglas Park with the following team to stay top of the league.
Bonner
McGrain O’Leary Aitken Whyte
Grant McLeod McStay
McLair Judas McInally
Sub: Shepherd
Goals :Judas +McLair(pen)
The Daily Telegraph has just published the best Fergie Team of the last 25 Years as follows-not sure if voted by fans or Journos:
Schmeichel
G.Neville Ferdinand Stam Irwin
Scholes Keane Robson Giggs
Ronaldo Cantona
Would pretty much agree with that except swap Rooney for Robson and put Ronaldo into midfield.
What would be the best Celtic team of the last 25 years be ?
See the list to choose from in post to follow.
TET
“You can’t spell take either :>) ”
If I wasn’t on white wine currently I might conclude I was drunk.
You cannot get drunk on white wine. Tis a well known fact.
Ronaldo in midfield? he’s going to break modern goal scoring records (if not for Messi). Ol Ronny isn’t a midfielder, similar to a Sammy debate :o)
Goodnight and God bless!
Thanks again Celtic for a wonderful night.
Bring on the rest!
Billy Bhoy says:
4 November, 2011 at 22:44
The quiz is finished. Onto music now.
Great story BTW
HH
CRC
Friday nights still music night?
http://youtu.be/3KnzsLGzVGw
BT
How is the old back ?
Hope you are keeping well pal.
Over the next few days I will compile any teams submitted from the following list and publish CQN’S best team of the last 25 years.
To make it relatively easy to compile please stick to the following rules:
1.Only choose players from the following lists(sorry if I missed your favourite player but there has to be a limit-I’ve also avoided loan players )
2.Only pick 11 players as follows:
1 Goalkeeper
2 Full Backs
2 Centre Backs
3 Midfielders
3 Forwards
3.Only pick players from the relevant list .For example I have listed Roy Aitken as a Centre Back-you can’t pick him as a Midfielder. I’ve no doubt missed some obvious ones but this is the final list!
GOALKEEPERS
1.Bonner 2.Gould 3.Douglas 4.D.Marshall 5.Boruc
FULL BACKS
1.McKinlay 2.McNamara 3.Agathe 4.Wilson 5.Hinkel
6.McGrain 7.Izaguirre 8.Boyd 9.Morris 10.Wdowczyk
CENTRE BACKS
1.Stubbs 2.Rieper 3.Mjallby 4.Balde 5.Caldwell
6.Aitken 7.Elliot 8.Mowbray 9.McCarthy 10.Valgaeren
MIDFIELDERS
1.McLeod 2.McStay 3.Lambert 4.Collins 5.Burns
6.McGeady 7.Di Cannio 8.Burley 9.Petrov 10.Thompson
11.Moravcik 12.Lennon 13.Nakamura 14.Brown 15.Kayal
FORWARDS
1.Cadete 2.Viduka 3.Larsson 4.Sutton 5.Hartson
6.Maloney 7.McDonald 8.Stokes 9.Hooper 10.Judas
11.Van Hooijdonk 12.Walker 13.McAvennie 14.Dziekanowski 15.McClair
I will re-post this over the next few days.
praecepta says:
4 November, 2011 at 22:39
Maybe during the 4th time you can tell us why your asking ;)
JD
Billy Bhoy says:
4 November, 2011 at 22:44
Not as good a tale as yours…… but the old lad that used to sit near us during the WGS years used to shout for:
MacNamura to take evey free-kick!
G64
fine thanks, massage today did me a world of good..
need a few more seemingly….
CRC
I spoke last night to steves bhoy and ghirl…
I miss that bhoy so much..
god bless Pablo…
the_huddle says:
4 November, 2011 at 22:49
Ronaldo played most of his games for United in Wide Midfield!
Neil Lennon Is A Celtic Soul Brother says:
4 November, 2011 at 22:52
Nice one, will put a team in tomorrow!
You planning any more trips up to the dear green place soon?
HH
CRC
ps You should have went with your instincts re Starkie
Nah he had 3 season out wide then 2 up top, they pushed hairy Rooney out left to stick Ronaldo up top. He’s never a midfielder.
sftb
What is it about white wine ? has it’s place in life, but a waste of indulgance imo.
I will stick with the red stuff, discovered a new one on wednesday quality for 1.50 a bottle, given the choice it’s Guinness for me, pity that the nearest pint is one and a half hours away.
The Legend Johnny Doyle says:
4 November, 2011 at 22:52
praecepta says:
4 November, 2011 at 22:39
Maybe during the 4th time you can tell us why your asking ;)
http://youtu.be/SBmAPYkPeYU
:-)
blantyretim says:
4 November, 2011 at 22:56
How you doing?
Re Pablo: Hope their sadness is turning into fond memories
You allowed out yet? Think there is a wee CQN drinking session next week as Paddy Gallagher is up.
Bundoran Bhoy/ Lennybhoy- if you are about, have you sorted out the details?
HH
CRC
TET
My wife likes it and I have to help her finish the bottles
BJMAC 2133
Haha,good point,except that I tried to post it immediately after I posted my answers,and only got it through after the results arrived!
Good few beers wi some auld acquaintances there,but decided not to rip it as I’m still planning a major escape tomorrow night. The locals in my home town are still in denial about their club’s potential plight,so nothing changed since the last time I saw them!
TET
There you go again tempting us with your
wine stories.
When are we going to see this wine cellar ?
praecepta
That youtube video was quick news… did you have that one ready for the 1st post…? ;)
JD
fergus slayed the blues says:
4 November, 2011 at 22:27
Well bhoys ,looks like the MSM have built the well game up a treat
IMO this where our Lenny earns his corn and could shift the pressure .
The MSM have built it up as a do or die game for the celts ,well let’s win it bhoys and turn the tables .
hail hail
share
And if we don’t?
My old man called Nakamura the Jap. Not very PC my old Bhoy but Celtic daft!
LB
the_huddle says:
4 November, 2011 at 22:57
Have to agree to disagree! but wherever he plays he would be in my team-would have Rooney ahead of Cantona if I had to have Ronaldo up front!
praecepta says:
4 November, 2011 at 22:53
not as good? Dunno mate, I exploded with laughter at that!!
I’ve got a mate who pronounces every foreign player wrong. It almost seems intentional. He said to me one time “did you see that bufoon last night”? “What bufoon” I said.
“Buffoon” he said again. Then the penny dropped and I realised he meant the Italian goalkeeper!
During the last world cup he sent me a text saying ” those vuzvullas are driving me mad”. I thought “My god, he’s doing it by text now!
Billy Bhoy