We gave STV credit on Wednesday for their reporting on SPL voting process required to decide what to do if a new company applies to join the league after an existing team ceases to exist (through prepack or other means).
I subsequently noticed in the same article they suggest Leeds United went into liquidation and returned with a phoenix prepack. This is incorrect. Leeds United, then in administration, were sold in 2007 to Ken Bates’ newly formed company, with Bates agreeing a deal with creditors. Leeds were, therefore, only liable for the statutory 10 point penalty for entering administration, although the league increased the punishment to 15 points as the club failed to follow correct administration procedure.
I don’t wish to harangue STV on what was an article with genuine information but they cite Leeds as a precedent: “there is no guarantee that the Scottish Premier League would act in the same way as their counterparts in England but the similarities between the regulations mean that the precedent may be used as a guide”.
If I was Rangers right now I would be trying to convince everyone that putting a football club out of existence, only to allow another company to pick up its league share, with a points total calculated from the position of the former club, is similar to a common administration. It’s not. This would be a completely different scenario.
Having discussed this matter with many people throughout the game and the media, I can find no precedent for a football club going out of existence and phoenix-ing back into the same league spot.
Airdrieonians failed in 2008, when the owners of Clydebank FC moved to Airdrie and renamed to Airdrie United. Gretna FC were voted into the space created by the absence of Airdrieonians (then a Second Division team), but entered at the bottom of the Scottish Football League.
Gretna failed in 2008 and a new club based at the same ground successfully applied for membership of the East of Scotland Football League. Annan Athletic entered the bottom rung of the Scottish Football League after Gretna’s demise, not into the First Division spot Gretna were unable to fulfil. Third Lanark were in the bottom division of the Scottish Football League when they were replaced by Clydebank.
Gretna-Annan, Clydebank-Gretna, Third Lanark-Clydebank are the only precedents that exist. If you fail, the team that replaces you joins the bottom rung of the Scottish senior league structure, there have been no exceptions, in Scotland or in England.
The SFA have a say in this matter also. They must ratify any decision of the SPL board and grant a licence to a new club before if can play in the SPL or Scottish Football League. The national association is made up of member clubs, most of whom stand to gain considerably if a Rangers Newco FC were to enter the Scottish Football League.
Irrespective of the SPL’s decision, the SFA better have some pretty good lawyers if they deviate from precedent. The football authorities have a duty to ensure their competitions observe meritocratic and moral correctness. It’s only ‘fit and proper.
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woooosh woooosh….
well this is my team for today but i could come back tomorrow and change most of it.
this is a winning side not who i think are the best players.
……………………….Boruc
McGrain…….Stubbs……..Elliot……..Boyd
Di Cannio…Lambert…McStay…Thompson
…………Larsson…..Van Hooijdonk
tictalker talking tic
EWO
Just reading through the blog (only as far as page 7)
and came across your big stat that Sammi has only
6 goals out of the last 62 appearances.
Can I ask you , why then post links to two different
sites that disprove your own stats
When you see Sammis name, do your eyes glaze over
or do you suddenly become dyslexic
or maybe you just can’t see past your own prejudice
BTW he scored 7 last season
Gotta Rush..
Good Night Scotland
Good Night Ireland
Good Night Wales
Good Night England
Good Night Canada
Good Night New Zealand
Good Night Australia
And
Good Night.. Tony McMahon, wherever you are
Kojo.
Neil Lennon Is A Celtic Soul Brother says:
4 November, 2011 at 23:28
My team is playing 4-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 (it is the new John Barnes/Liam Brady combined formation!!)
Lubo is up front behind the strikers :-)
HH
CRC
Top 3 CQN Crooners ?
Matt Munro
Tony Bennett
Dean Martin
My eyes aren’t as good as they used to be. Sometimes I have difficulty differentiating between an ‘a’ and a ‘u’.
So I took a closer look at kojo’s post and was glad to see that he had said….gotta rush.
hail hail
Estadio
Top 3 CQN crooners
Rod Stewart
Frank Sinatra
Brook Benton
CLINK\O/ 2336
I doubt you’ll change his opinion by simply stating the facts. Some people-the two eejits to my right last night,for example,are only interested in their own opinions.
They state them often enough and it then becomes accepted as FACT…….
Has there ever been a bad band from New Joisey?
I’m not sure what a Mynah Bird’s time is worth compared to human time, but I’m sure that profound observation was well worth it,…whatever it was.
Estadio says:
4 November, 2011 at 23:39
So do you get excited when they call “last orders please”? :-)
HH
CRC
Right.
I think tomorrow deserves the presence of a field reporter attending the BEEB protest attired as a Hun with recording equipment in tow to record for history the bigoted sectarianism that will be to the fore.
So who’s gonny wear the hun scarf?
MWD
64
perry como and frank sinatra fgs…
perry como was my grans fav on the olld frank skerrit show on a saturday morning..
the scrambles(switched) egg never needed salted when she listened to ole Perry.. and i love u so…
i’ve got tears in my eyes even now and she died in 1979 god rest her…
still can’t sing hail queen of heavEn at mass without tears in my eyes..
Sammy scored 7 goals last season??
OOOPS
where did that come from….
Bon Jovi where are they from?
AAFG says:
4 November, 2011 at 22:27
You are still struggling and it is a shame, I dinnae really know anything to say to your good self but I remember your post vividly (can’t believe it is that long ago now) and if it is any sort of comfort, at least you got to spend so much time with your wonderful wife. Marriages these days just don’t last because of all sorts of pressures, so people don’t get to appreciate the wonderful bond you both had. My Mum and Dad are coming up for their 50th wedding soon and to see them arguing over wee silly things like crosswords (its like the fire is still in their bellies) etc it is indeed a Blessing.
God Bless AAFG and I hope Celtic get you posting on Sunday.
Jude 2005 @ 20.13………….As regards the GB ..the police kept a low profile ,then 40 minutes into the game all of a sudden 8 policemen 4 either side of the GB walked up the passageways …More or less just to let them know “we havent gone away” and in doing so anybody blocking the passageways were pushed aside…….the camera “units” are still there doing the filming…pisses you off seeing what these guys are being paid to do.
I um neil lennon….
It’s my eyesight thut’s staffed not my heuring!
Far Guwds suke!
Huil Huil
Estudio
the_huddle
Aye Right enough.
How about, amongst all the good bands that came out of Glasgow and New Jersey, Bon Jovi are their Wet Wet Wet
http://youtu.be/SEllHMWkXEU
Tommy’s favourite.
Mack the knife.
Drink, crooning and eventually requited love.
There’s only one song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCHVEDmPYXA
Hail hail
Estadio
4th November
44 years ago Celtic were in Urugauy
RACING CLUB 1 CELTIC 0
Team: Fallon, Craig, Gemmell, McNeill, Clark, Murdoch, Auld, Johnstone, Lennox, Wallace, Hughes.
Currently reading the excellent Tom Campbell’s “Tears in Argentina”. Trying hard to find forgivness but failing.
However how is this for support? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fdiu8qtb6U
the_huddle says:
4 November, 2011 at 23:45
In Season 2008/9, Sammi scored 15 from 19 starts and 12 subs appearances.
He can score goals.
Will the real Sammi please stand up?
HH
CRC
Blantyre Tim,
You’ve made me play ‘Hail Queen of Heav’n’ and I have a wee tear in my eye. A beautiful hymn.
I know Sammy can score, I think he has great mega skills but where did the 7 goals scored last season come from??
Estadio
Can Frank and Bing live with Dino and Sammy ?
the_huddle says:
4 November, 2011 at 23:59
3 in league, 3 in league cup and 1 other (Europe?)
HH
CRC
The Ghood will prevail says:
4 November, 2011 at 23:58
its no ma fault its that G64 and Frank Skerrit…
i was only 12 when my gran got carried out to that hymm and i still can’t sing it…
And of course then there is Frank and Celeste who just don’t want to sleep through Wagner at the Met!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=NaY4OeSbN30
hail hail
Estadio
First attempt at posting a link
Muddy Water
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5IOou6qN1o
The Ghood
BT
Posted before, but one of my favs
I Rise From Dreams of Time
Samaras scored when we beat Utrecht.
Do I win the quiz :-)
BABASONICOS71, take care.
Gordon64
In today’s society …anything goes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zJ3vqkXqRU&feature=related
Hail hail
Estadio
Estadio
That is Quality stuff m8,
Thank goodness that is just a Movie and not real Life.
bjmac
fgs
that a communion hymm at a requiem mass…
tears are blinnin me….